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--- Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 03:04:06PM -0700, James Morrison wrote:
> >
> > What do you plan on doing with 1GB of swap I have 512MB of ram and
> > haven't touched swap space in months.
>
> my 64MB RAM box has 1GB of swap cause i really want to b
--- Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was going towards access on request just so the box
> doesn't get killed. That is you get login created on
> request.
We have this with dryden. Thanks Neal. Another machine doesn't hurt though.
>
> > > The specs on the box are:
> > >
> > > 486DX
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 05:56:20PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
> > > The specs on the box are:
> > >
> > > 486DX2 66 [overclocked to 80]
> > > 20MB RAM
> >
> > uhm.. you'll need a lot of swap, i suggest 1GB to be safe. :)
>
> I could put in some clonker drives for swap to
> get to 1G. Can hurd supp
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 03:15:49AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> Do we have file permission bits for the unauthentificated user?
Yes. And a bit to control if it should use those or the o bits. Currently,
the default is to use the o bits, but we are not sure if we shouldn't change
that. What you
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 01:48:36AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
> Well, if I have a guest, I can simply tell him to use the computer, without
> creating an account first.
>
> Don't get me wrong either. The login shell is far from perfect. Much of
> the policy what is accessible from it (eve
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 04:49:41PM -0700, Jason Dagit wrote:
> Marcus these are my feelings exactly. I think having to type login to
> login is redundant.
Well, it's easy enough to change.
> Just like win2k where you type ctrl-alt-del (which
> according to MS improves security), before you login
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 01:20:59AM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote:
> Let me describe my view like this: when I ask a company to build a
> house for me, I simply expect the doors to have locks, to offer at
> least some kind of protection.
Well, I guess we could argue hours about this :) Like, I could
Marcus these are my feelings exactly. I think having to type login to
login is redundant. Just like win2k where you type ctrl-alt-del (which
according to MS improves security), before you login. I think the normal
case is logining, and that is someone wants to use some other feature with
out log
For the GNU system, the issue of paramount importance is that all security
decisions be a matter of local administrative choice rather than imposed by
the system. For the base installation, we use the choices that we (the
Hurd developers) like for our own machines and you don't have to like those
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, because if you need a secure console (eg, if the computer is
> accessible in public), you need to take a lot of extra steps anyway
> to secure the machine: You need to set a BIOS and GRUB password, for
> example.
Of course! Don't get me wrong,
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 12:18:27AM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > What about making the console a login shell by default, and on
> > remote connections a login prompt?
>
> I already found that comment in the list archive, but I still don't
> get
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 11:43:40PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 02:05:35PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
> > Hi all,
>
> Hello!
>
> > I have just upgraded me server to dual PPro so
> > my old one, a 486 is sitting in storage. :)
> >
> > Anyway, I just looked at
> >
> > http:
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What about making the console a login shell by default, and on
> remote connections a login prompt?
I already found that comment in the list archive, but I still don't
get it: why do you still want to make console access so insecure?
What is the adva
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 03:04:06PM -0700, James Morrison wrote:
>
> What do you plan on doing with 1GB of swap I have 512MB of ram and
> haven't touched swap space in months.
my 64MB RAM box has 1GB of swap cause i really want to be safe. do you
mean that 512MB swap would be enough?
--
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 12:07:56AM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote:
> James Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Also, as you previously mentioned there is no power in this login
> > shell so we aren't leaving open doors all over the place.
>
> Wait. As the system is right now, there's a lot
James Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Also, as you previously mentioned there is no power in this login
> shell so we aren't leaving open doors all over the place.
Wait. As the system is right now, there's a lot of power in the login
shell from a security perspective. And now you are co
--- Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So, why not simply change login to loginpr in /etc/passwd in the
> Debian GNU/Hurd default installation?
>
> moritz
Would it make sense to use debconf for this (for all the things I want to try
debconf for, I think I should
--- Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 02:05:35PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
> > Hi all,
>
> Hello!
>
> > I have just upgraded me server to dual PPro so
> > my old one, a 486 is sitting in storage. :)
> >
> > Anyway, I just looked at
> >
> > http://db.debian.org/m
--- Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have just upgraded me server to dual PPro so
> my old one, a 486 is sitting in storage. :)
>
> Anyway, I just looked at
>
> http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi
>
> and there seems to be no Debian/hurd boxes for
> developers. Would be an a
Hi,
I want to start this thread, because I think there is something
wrong with the GNU default login method. The question about the sense
of the login shell should maybe asked again at this time. What are
the advantages and, which is IMHO even more important, what are the
disadvantages of it?
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 02:05:35PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
> Hi all,
Hello!
> I have just upgraded me server to dual PPro so
> my old one, a 486 is sitting in storage. :)
>
> Anyway, I just looked at
>
> http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi
>
> and there seems to be no Debian/hurd boxes for
tha
Hi all,
I have just upgraded me server to dual PPro so
my old one, a 486 is sitting in storage. :)
Anyway, I just looked at
http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi
and there seems to be no Debian/hurd boxes for
developers. Would be an advantage to have
something like a 486 hurd box for developers?
T
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 11:36:15AM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> I have just tried to upgrade libc:
> Preparing to replace libc0.3 2.2.5-6 (using
> .../libc0.3_2.2.5-13_hurd-i386.deb) ...
http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/extra-files/hurd-upgrade.txt
Thanks,
Marcus
--
`Rhubarb is no Egyptian
Le lun 19/08/2002 à 11:36, Michal Suchanek a écrit :
> Is there any place I can read something about these issues or can you
> give other advice?
Did you read Marcus Brinkmann's recent mail (and the following answers)
about "Upgrading Debian GNU/Hurd"?
Snark on #hurd, #hurdfr
PS:
lists.debian.
I have just tried to upgrade libc:
Preparing to replace libc0.3 2.2.5-6 (using
.../libc0.3_2.2.5-13_hurd-i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc0.3 ...
dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
dpkg: error processi
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