> > > Oh NOOO :)
> > Exactly. No no! Very bad idea. I fully support you here.
> Hey, they definitely reached their aim: people were attracted...
I really like my 'Quietsche-Tux'. Btw, i'm very certain that HP
used them first last year. I had to swap a debian CD for one.
I think the opionions h
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> And, by the way, when I was talking to a man at the HP booth I just
> interrupted the talk just to hand out such a penguin to a "nice looking
> girl"
Oh, one can attract nice looking girls with squeeking penguins? I think
i should try that out next time :)
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First a kind hello to this list. After the debian-events-de list was
removed i never turned arround to subscribe to this list, but now i
finally did.
As some of you might have noted, after a pause last year, i'm once
again in the boat for helping at the debian booth at the linuxtag
event. I made t
Wenn man Standpersonal ist, muß man sich dann eigentlich trotzdem für
die Teilnahme am Linuxtag anmelden, wie es auf den Haupt-Seiten steht?
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> http://luonnotar.infodrom.org/~joey/LT/2002/
Hmm, i really like Prop 5. And of course Prop 3. And i would
take Prop 4, too :)
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> Assuming that the Debian booth is located at one end of the exhibition,
> and that the remaining - and empty - hall is next to it, that'll be a
> way to distribute the network outside of the booth into some working
> space. Just an idea...
Very good idea, go for it. I think it would be good to
Here my 2 cents to the flyer discussion:
Although i'm willing to support the usage of linux / free software
whereever possible i would say that it is sometimes better to accept
the work by someone else no matter which software he used when the
alternative is to have nothing.
And i'm readily ad
> Inlay? Did you actually take a look at them? They're A4 large,
> bilingual and not folded.
Ok, i'm sorry, i just didn't remembered the old flyers. So i think we
just have no choice. Ask the sponsor what they think and then toss them.
I thinks thats really better for the project. Its not the
> You can very well create high quality, graphically enhanced printings
> with The GIMP and LaTeX. All you need to do is a) learn GIMP and b)
> learn LaTeX and graphic capabilities.
Please Joey! This is not to offend you, but you have obviously no clue
what you are talking about. Let me repeat
> Well, if the Debian swirl has a slightly different red than on the
> webpage, I guess we could live with that *for this specific application*
Yes, granted. I'm absolutely happy if someone with enough free time on
his hands manages to produce a flyer with free software in time. I
didn't wanted to
> Discussing this 9 days before LinuxTag is moot.
Yes, but whose fault is that? Is it anybodys fault? Why don't we
just try to find a solution?
I remember 1999 when i designed and printed the flyer in less than
7 days. Yes, with non-free software, but it worked and it helped
for the show.
We wa
> > 3. we try to make the flyer from Davide ready
> > 4. someone will make a flyer with pure free software
> I believe that, for this LinuxTag exhibition, 3 and 4 are not possible
> due to no time for discussing design, phrasing, impact and corrections.
I beg to differ. Although nine days sound
Let me start a new thread. All the discussion is needful too, but we really
should start work on the flyer. Let me see whats need to be done:
1.) Find a sponsor for the print. Find out how much money we
can use.
2.) Find a print shop which can do the job in the next
> If you should be going to create new flyers and get them printed,
> don't expect any support from for them from myself.
Fine. But please stop here for a while and ask yourself:
'Am I helping the debian project with this? Or is my fith
for my own personal believes doing damage to the proje
> There are on sources AFAIK. You can get the (updated) .pdf at
> http://www.koethe.net/debian-flyer2002.pdf though
> I can't comment on whether it's possible to do it (in this
> timeframe)
I'm no LaTeX expert, but i believe it would be quite some work
to get a similar result in LaTeX. Our best
> Joey isn't at any point talking about damaging such advertisements,
> merely saying that he isn't going to help.
Sorry, i have overseen the crosscopy to the debian-project Mailinglist.
As already said, there was a prior discussion on debian-events-eu
which led to this statement. You might wan
> Anyway, I started extracting the text from the .pdf. I'll post it
> here as soon as it's done. Perhaps I'll have time to look into doing
> this with LaTeX, but I can't really tell ATM
Very well. I will take a look at scribus in the meanwhile, maybe its
the right tool for the job. The descripti
Ok, i've tested scribus and i think this could be the tool to create
the flyer. Look what i just created in arround 15 Minutes:
http://www.kju.de/Document-1.pdf
Please note that the background graphics was color changed in a quick
test - therefore the red leftovers, and i haven't installe
> Look what i just created in arround 15 Minutes:
> http://www.kju.de/Document-1.pdf
Oh, i probably should add, that this demonstration is not really
exciting, but it shows that with scribus the flyer could be created
in a few hours maximum.
I just used some dummy text, but replace it with
> Jens Schmalzing and me started working on doing the stuff in LaTeX,
> btw. Still no guarantee if we make it in time (if we get the somebody
> to print it anyway)
Ok. In an parallel effort i will try it with scribus. I just installed
509 type1 fonts :-) hopefully there is one beautiful enough in
> -don't mean zero cost, but the Freedom to use it how and where you
> +don't just mean zero cost, but also the Freedom to use it how and
> +where you
No! Free Software does not mean and has never meant zero cost.
(Re-)adding 'also' is just plainly wrong there.
Free Software is about Freedom and
> Please write "Sponsored by" above the sponsor logo.
Maybe 'This flyer was sponsored by'? A sole 'Sponsored by' could led
to confusion, i guess.
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> - a transport service for Joerg Jaspert
Details? When, where?
> We should collect some numbers of the booth and debian day persons
> and make a list at the booth.
Yes. But as this list is archived public, i would prefer to give the
number by private mail to the person (you?) making the list.
> I'd very much like to see a ham radio demonstration at the booth
> because I know absolutely nothing about it and it sounds interesting.
Ok, if nobody else cares, i will go for it.
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> can you make a show at the booth about ham?
I will have my equipment setup, and probably bring some poster or
somethink like that with me, which shortly explains what this is
about. On request, i will demonstrate.
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> Building the booth on Wednesday:
I will be there something like late afternoon too, but will probably
first see how to setup my ham radio equipment.
By the way: Today i visited the regtp (german federal communications
regulations office) in Muenster in person, and made some pressure to
get them
> > kill Michael Meskes on all your schedules. He has a own booth and he
> > can't help...
> I would prefer if Michael would stay alive and I would volunteer to take
> over one (or more) of his time slots.
I don't see the problem here. Neither Michael nor Noël were included in
the any of the shift
> it seems that the only print shop I found that easily can print all the
> flyers until Wednesday cannot really use our pdf/ps files.
If i could get some details (mainly the amount of flyers to be produced)
i could phone arround and see if some print shop i know can handle this.
But we should ta
> it seems that the only print shop I found that easily can print all the
> flyers until Wednesday cannot really use our pdf/ps files.
You should probably take an look onto www.laser-line.de, a digital
print shop in Berlin. I made business with them in the past, and they
are ok.
And they should
> Auf meine Frage, wie ich das sehen kann, sagte man mir:
> Garnicht, das können Sie nur daran sehen, ob die Filme okay sind.
Was issen das fürn Puff? Jede bessere Druckerei die PDF verarbeitet,
hat auch Software um sowas zu prüfen. Ich empfehle diese Druckerei
nicht noch einmal zu beauftragen.
> Well, we discussed the developer/visitor-ratio problem some while ago
> and I proposed that we shall create a shift-plan to get rid of this
> problem
As the empty part of the hall is right behind our booth as joey told,
the developers which are actually not on shift could probably stay
there and
> > 4. multiple sockets, I'll take mine with 8 outlets with me but I guess
> >that this won't be enough
I will bring an 11 socket power bar.
> 5. tp cables
Don't forget the switch... I can probably bring a 24port switch (with
little bugs).
If possible someone should bring a table and chai
> At the back of the booth we can place the different architectures:
I will probable sit there too with my notebook and my ham radio
equipment.
By the way: After my personal urging to the RegTP, i will finally
get my shortwave license on monday, so i can really demonstrate on
the linuxtag.
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> > Does it make sense to show two alphas?
> Definitely yes. I would really like it to fix some architecture Alpha bugs
> and perhaps this is not very interesting for visitors.
Maybe you should setup one alpha in the free space behind our booth -
the place where we probably will work (if someone
Although i will arrive at wednesday, i do not already know when i
will be there. How long will the exhibition and the bureau (to get
the exhibitors pass) be opened?
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Bad News: I just returned from my doctor. Just right before the beginning
of the Linuxtag i catched a bronchitis. My doctor strongly suggested that
i should not drive to Karlsruhe today, i should first wait for tomorrow.
I'm probably going to follow his advise.
I don't have the actual shift plan r
> What about "Free Bounty" for a CD, i.e. not a forced donation.
I don't think that we forced the donation. The text said about asking
for a donation, not demanding it. I handed out several CDs without
a donation.
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> Did it work as expected?
Yes i think so. You could stay in the back and every now and then
sneak into the booth and help if needed.
Most of the time we had more people on the both as actually were
on shift, but i guess 2-3 people is not always enough.
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