Re: kig, geogebra or kseg?

2010-07-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:43:10AM +0200, Philipp Huebner wrote on debian-edu list: > >> all I know is that in German schools geogebra is very popular. > > > > Would be interesting to know why. Is it translated to German? Any > > other langauges? > > The homepage is translated into multiple la

Re: How should we evaluate user applications?

2010-07-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:06:49PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I agree. But if we have several similar packages, I believe we should > go with the one with translations and drpo the ones without. ... and tell upstream about the reason for droping the package. Kind regards Andreas

Re: How should we evaluate user applications?

2010-07-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:35:42AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Duplicate targets IMHO we need some more virtual packages to relax this conflict a bit. > It is a goal to only provide the best application for a given task, and > avoid several applications for the same tasks. Here is a list

Re: How should we evaluate user applications?

2010-07-30 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:30:06AM +0200, Andreas B. Mundt wrote: > I do not see the mass of applications that go in or out with or > without the cut at 16 or 18, respectively. I think we agree that very > specialized stuff is not needed on the DVD and can be installed by the > teachers, which in t

Re: How can we gain more flexibility in debian-edu?

2010-08-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 12:54:23PM +0300, Oded Naveh wrote: > Hi Andreas, > Above all I'd like to express my appreciation for your part in Debian-Edu > development. > > On Friday 06 August 2010 05:21:28 Andreas B. Mundt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > ... >From a rather outsiders perspective both arguing

Ping: Re: Cooperation between DebianEdu/Skolelinux and EdUbuntu ?

2010-08-06 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, did I missed anything that happened or was this mail just a candle in the wind and we are doing business as usual? Andreas On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 09:53:59PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 02:06:57PM +0200, Arnt Ove Gregersen wrote: > > > > The

Re: Bug#590785: maxima: Please enable alternative pdf-viewer / postscript-viewer

2010-08-06 Thread Andreas Tille
"gv -safer %s" That's no excuse. The bug should stay open to inform people about a problem and I rather think we should fix it from the other side and care for a propper postscript-viewer command (analogous to editor and view - or even enhance view). Kind regards Andreas.

Re: Ping: Re: Cooperation between DebianEdu/Skolelinux and EdUbuntu ?

2010-08-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 08:07:27AM +0200, Martin Oehler wrote: > > I warmly welcome an Ubuntu developer helping package Skolelinux-RLP > > stuff to be usable for all Debian derivatives and Debian itself. > > Correct, but why should we care where her or he does his main open source > work? Because

Re: Full install/removal/upgrade test results available

2010-11-17 Thread Andreas Tille
packages): > --- > > Andreas Tille >cimg-dev (U) I checked for cimg-dev in http://people.debian.org/~lucas/logs/2010/11/17/cimg-dev.log and found only one hint of a failure when it says: -- New version is unstable version: FAILED (UNINSTALLED != 1.3.9-1) but from reasing the log I can not f

What is a 'VideoEditor'? (Was: Which video editor should we install by default?)

2010-12-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, after I read the recommendations for OpenShot as easy to use videoeditor I gave it a try. *My* intent was to cut some sequences from an existing Video and making smooth transitions between the remaining parts. However OpenShot seems to support only the *creation* of a video from a set of imag

Re: What is a 'VideoEditor'? (Was: Which video editor should we install by default?)

2010-12-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:47:48PM +0100, idiotei...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, did you mix up with stopmotion ? No - I never used stopmotion but know in principle what it is doing and when I fired up the help system of OpenShots it started talking about turning photos into a video. For sure *before*

Re: install less software by default (Re: Which video editor should we install by default?

2010-12-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 12:49:18PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > > I propose something like creating a education-videoeditor package (which > recommends our identified best of breed of videoeditors) and document this > well, but not install by default. > > Then schools wanting to do video-editi

SkoleLinux @ Chemnitzer Linuxtage

2011-01-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Mike, On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 10:58:12AM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > ... if it comes to the point that we offer and > recommend Skolelinux to schools in Kiel (the evaluation process is not > yet finished) I have no idea when you have to draw your final decision but as far as I know visiti

Re: SkoleLinux @ Chemnitzer Linuxtage

2011-01-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Mike, On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 12:12:33AM +0100, Mike Gabriel wrote: > I am currently attending the Skolelinux meeting in Gütersloh which is > already a fine opportunity for me to gain an overview on Debian Edu and > people around it. Cool! Yes, I think joining those meetings is perfect. >

Re: RFS: openteacher

2011-01-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, just forewarding this RFS to Debian Edu where chances might be better to find a sponsor if needed. If you really, really will not find somebode please ping me again after one week or so. Kind regards Andreas. On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 10:09:43PM +0530, Arvind S Raj wrote: > Dear mentors

Re: Make LibreOffice part of Debian Edu

2011-02-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:13:50PM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > b) Help Rene with his packages: > http://packages.qa.debian.org/libreoffice and backports. If you are wondering whether Rene really might need help, just look here: http://blends.debian.net/liststats/authorstat_openof

Re: Can we get rid of network-manager?

2011-02-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:09:33PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > The issue is that apt in Squeeze install recommends by default, > and NetworkManager is recommended by packages we do want to install. > We will need to rewrite the entire tasksel framework we use to install > packages to do som

Re: Can we get rid of network-manager?

2011-02-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:37:45AM +0100, Klaus Knopper wrote: > > I have not tested but wouldn't it be sufficient to let a relevant > > metapackage simply conflict with network-manager? From my understanding > > the conflict should be "stronger" than recommends (if not I'd consider > > it a bug)

Re: RFS: openteacher

2011-03-01 Thread Andreas Tille
[Sorry for full quote, but I try to involve another list] Hi, while I showed some interest in the first place because I feel that this package is relevant for Debian Edu and I do feel a bit obliged to this project I admit I will not find a slice of time to help in this package. I really hope that

Re: RFS: openteacher

2011-03-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 04:54:49PM +0100, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote: > El mar, 01-03-2011 a las 15:56 +0100, Holger Levsen escribió: > > each time I see "openteacher" I'm thinking I wouldn't like a very simple > > and > > limited tool being called like I am. I'm not a teacher, but I think t

Re: browser races

2011-06-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 08:31:23AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > I'd use stable backports (see backports.debian.org) or until ff5 is available > there you can follow this: > http://blog.steve.org.uk/so_you_want_to_install_the_most_recent_firefox_.html Certainly not the right list to ask about

Re: browser races

2011-06-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 09:56:01AM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > I'd advise you to actually search throught the list archives (including > debian-release) before, and you'll notice, that the topic has been > covered already, and well discussed. Thanks for the hint. I do not see any

Re: browser races

2011-06-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 02:21:10PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > ...and 7(!) comments to that post, all made within one day, These were written after I looked there and wrote my mail. > points to > the alternative approach of using backported packages for stable, and > experimental packag

Re: browser races

2011-06-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 03:10:37PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > if you look at http://mozilla.debian.net/ pick "testing (Wheezy)", > "Iceweasel" and "5.0" you'll be told exactly what to do. Perhaps I need to try at home. The page (viewed with IceWeasel 3.5) behind a sometimes bori

Re: New sections

2011-12-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 01:46:58PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > education, which is for education related tools that don't fit better >into any other section > > metapackages, which is for metapackages so that apt can do special > handling on them. Where would you like

Re: New sections

2011-12-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:17:24PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Where would you like to see the metapackages of the Debian Edu Blend? > > hehe :) :-) > but seriously: when I read that mail from Jörg I wondered whether to react at > all: why move the Debian Edu packages into the education (o

Bug#311188: Draft proposal for handling configuration file manipulations in Debian blends

2012-01-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 04:27:40PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 12-01-26 at 12:24pm, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > I am talking about each single Debian package. Not the whole system. > > And every package in this model can be in non-blended mode or in blend > > mode for _one_ blend. > > Thanks

Re: Skolelinux/Debian Edu developer gathering in Oslo, Norway, March 16-18 2012.

2012-02-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:07:07PM +0100, Olav Dahlum wrote: > There's again time for a Skolelinux/Debian Edu developer gathering in > Norway, and Freecode in Oslo have gracefully offered their space to us. The > gathering will take place between Friday the 16th and Sunday the 18th of > February, s

Do we build metapackages for wheezy? (Was: Bug#667589: education-mathematics: Adjust for the new octave package version 3.6.1)

2012-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I wonder what might be the right way to go for the Debian Edu packages. Some time ago I learned that you have froozen the tasks for the Debian Edu release and at this time it was a bad move to remove tipptrainer which was removed from Debian from the tasks files. I think now after the release

Re: Bug#667589: Do we build metapackages for wheezy?

2012-04-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 11:06:57PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: > >In the mean time please provide patches to BTS and tag the reports > >patch. I do not see a real advantage to do the extra effort to create patches if it is clear that nobody else than people who are using the Vcs (whatever it is or

Re: Bug#667589: Do we build metapackages for wheezy?

2012-04-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 11:57:03PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 11:06:57PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > >In the mean time please provide patches to BTS and tag the reports > > >patch. > > I do not see a real advantage to do the extra effort to c

Re: ITP: italc2 -- Intelligent Teaching and Learning with Computers

2012-05-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I wonder whether it might make sense to establish a Debian Edu packaging team. This has turned out to be quite a good idea in other Blends. There are some policy documents available to clone from. Kind regards Andreas. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 04:13:07PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: >

Re: ITP: italc2 -- Intelligent Teaching and Learning with Computers

2012-05-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:20:54PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Setting up a Debian Edu packaging is definitely a good idea. > However, collab-maint is still a good place to keep the packaging > Vcs, maybe even preferable to /git/debian-edu/.git (as any > DD can write to collab-maint). By using AC

Re: ITP: italc2 -- Intelligent Teaching and Learning with Computers

2012-05-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:48:53PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 12-05-12 at 11:23pm, Andreas Tille wrote: > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:20:54PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > > Setting up a Debian Edu packaging is definitely a good idea. > > > However, collab-

Re: ITP: italc2 -- Intelligent Teaching and Learning with Computers

2012-05-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 02:14:31PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: > On Sa 12 Mai 2012 22:31:30 CEST Holger Levsen wrote: > > >On Samstag, 12. Mai 2012, Andreas Tille wrote: > >>I wonder whether it might make sense to establish a Debian Edu packaging > >>team. > >

Moving information from tasks files into Vcs

2012-06-07 Thread Andreas Tille
[For the not so scientific Blends teams: the intend to work on scientific publication data has lead to other improvements also for your maintenence of tasks files ... even if I'm afraid that some teams do not really maintain their tasks files and possibly do not even know that these exist.] Hi

Re: Moving information from tasks files into Vcs

2012-06-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Holger, On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 04:31:57PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > wouldnt it be better to do this after the freeze+release of wheezy? Or is > this > your plan? The effect on the resulting metapackages is zero because we are talking about packages which are *not* in Debian. The code f

Re: new sections: education & metapackages

2012-06-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 03:43:47PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > And now I wonder under which section to move the debian-edu* packages to: > "education" for all but those build from "debian-edu", which belong under > meta-packages? Or are they all metapackages as their purpose is to setup an > e

Re: new sections: education & metapackages

2012-06-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:55:42PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 12-06-19 at 08:48am, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > > I'm personally in favour of education because I assume that's where > > users might seek first. I have no idea whather I'm right with thi

Study: open source provides schools with low-cost, high quality software

2012-10-23 Thread Andreas Tille
FYI: https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/news/study-open-source-provides-schools-low-cost-high-quality-software Kind regards and keep on the nice work Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Please help golearn (from the goplay package) become more useful for Debian Edu

2013-01-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 10:19:22PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Parley seems to be missing as vocab trainer on 1st sight. > > Please tag it in the web GUI. What web GUI are you talking about? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Please help golearn (from the goplay package) become more useful for Debian Edu

2013-01-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Petter, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 09:58:00AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > What web GUI are you talking about? > > I talk about > http://debtags.debian.net/edit/tags/use::learning,role::program,- >, > the URL I provided in the initial email in this thread. Ahh, sorry, I did not read it

Re: Please help golearn (from the goplay package) become more useful for Debian Edu

2013-01-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:49:21PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > For sure I know debtags (and as you probably know I recommend tagging > > on the tasks web pages). > > Yes, good advice. http://blends.alioth.debian.org/edu/tasks/ > is > a good place to start. Yes, but regarding the initia

Re: Please help golearn (from the goplay package) become more useful for Debian Edu

2013-01-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Petter, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 02:44:52PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Andreas Tille] > > Yes, but regarding the initial problem that does not help if a > > package is not listed in a task (and I hoped you would have a clue > > how to solve this.) > > I

Re: Please help golearn (from the goplay package) become more useful for Debian Edu

2013-01-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 02:44:52PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Anyway, can you modify the "Debtags/Go tagging" button to always work? > Now it only work for completely untagged packages. It would be > quicker to update tags if it was 'Update tags/Go tagging' and clicking > always sent

Debian Edu tasks in Git?? (Was: Please help golearn ...)

2013-01-14 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 04:08:57PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > ... > good to test because I just noticed that because of my latest change > Debian Edu tasks are not updated since mid-December due to the use of > the external SVN directory. Before I try to fix this: Is it correct &g

Re: Please help golearn (from the goplay package) become more useful for Debian Edu

2013-02-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 02:44:52PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Anyway, can you modify the "Debtags/Go tagging" button to always work? > Now it only work for completely untagged packages. It would be > quicker to update tags if it was 'Update tags/Go tagging' and clicking > always sent

Re: Report from Debian Med Sprint

2013-03-06 Thread Andreas Tille
[Moving the discussion that was marked "[x] quote me freely" to Debian Edu list.] The background is that I mentioned Debian Edu in an article that is intended to be published in an Indian health care magazin (for details see work item 1. of my sprint report[1].) Hi Jonas, On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 a

Re: Report from Debian Med Sprint

2013-03-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 01:00:42PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Could you perhaps elaborate a bit on how it is wrong? I notice that you > snipped the part where I referenced bug#311188 and wonder how Debian Edu > works fine when still in violation. Or if that is wrong too, then why >

Please join the discussion on debian-blends list [Was: Debian Pure Blends, Debian blends, Debian derivatives]

2013-03-11 Thread Andreas Tille
...@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian Pure Blends, Debian blends, Debian derivatives X-Spam_score: -7.4 On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Andreas Tille wrote: > thanks for bringing this up here. I guess the problem is that nobody > really much cared about a clean definition of the term we are using. I agre

Re: New blood in the Debian Edu / Skolelinux sysadmin team

2013-04-02 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, congratulations to Mike. It is really great to hear that new people are joining the team and as you know I with the Debian Edu team all the best. I wonder whether you attempt to follow the hints given by Paul Wise and forewarded by me here[1]. IMHO there could be synergy effects to use that

Re: DebianEdu developer gathering in Trondheim 19-21th of April

2013-04-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:36:21AM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: > as we will be in the very hot phase of moving place Good luck with moving! > If possible by any chance, an earlier announcement (old people have > to plan their lives and make god laugh)s +1 > would increase the chance of > me show

Re: DebianEdu developer gathering in Trondheim 19-21th of April

2013-04-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Wolfgang, On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:25:48PM +0200, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 10:23:49AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:36:21AM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > > If possible by any chance, an earlier announcement (old people

Re: Please help golearn (from the goplay package) become more useful for Debian Edu

2013-05-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Petter, On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 02:21:55PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > for example > gcompris didn't show up. Not sure what is going, but suspect it might > be delays in accepting tag edits by the debtag maintainer (Enrico?). According to UDD (at least as it is rendered on the task

Re: golearn and debtags - something is wrong

2013-05-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 10:18:32PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > I'll try to have a look at it as soon as I can. They really need some love. > I'm just so overloaded with stuff at job and with other projects that I > haven't fount the time yet. Gonna go to Germany for the next 2 weeks, so

Re: golearn and debtags - something is wrong

2013-05-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 05:02:03PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2013/5/7 Petter Reinholdtsen : > > [Andreas Tille] > >> Hmmm, beeing in Germany is no excuse to do nothing (otherwise I would > >> use this!) ;-) > > > > I totally agree. :) > > Gosh,

Re: How to convert a Debian installation to a Debian Edu installation

2013-05-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Petter, is there any reason to not include a script like this in some debian-edu package - as long as it is untested in /usr/share/doc//examples to enable people trying carefully first? Kind regards Andreas. On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 12:18:24PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > The s

Re: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or members of group cdd (at least if I not set permissions wrong). cdd group is readonly ;-) Ahh, my fault - this was not intended. But if you change this please drop me at least a note to let me propagate your change to SVN - there is no guaran

Re: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In any way, I can not change anything there. Sure - because you were no member of cdd group before. Now you are ... I do not want to discuss this question of live here. Well, it is not really a question of life ... ;-) I thought there was a

Re: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What users? Here are some possible answers: 1) Users of computers (like Linux and Windows) 2) Users of Linux distros (like Debian, Skolelinux and Ubuntu) 3) Users of the Debian distro (maybe mixed with outside stuff) 4) Users of only the Debian

Logo for tasks page (Was: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs)

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
[Just switched subject because it was drifted away from the original topic. The question is, what would be a proper Logo for Debian Edu.] On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: 5) Visitors of the web site or to fit above style: 5) Users of web browsers (like computer users and r

Re: Logo for tasks page (Was: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs)

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Do you agree that the conflict is on the definition of CDD (your subject could lead to believe that it was the definition of Skolelinux vs. DebianEdu)? Yes. In my eyes Debian Edu is the Debian internal part (and as such can be called CDD) and Skole

Re: Logo for tasks page (Was: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs)

2008-07-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: What wording would you propose? Debian Edu Debian internal project (so called CustomDebianDistribution) with the goal to make the best distribution for educational purposes. SkoleLinux SkoleLinux was formerly a Debian derivative b

Re: Logo for tasks page (Was: [Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs)

2008-07-12 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: To me, both names represent the same, and any can be used where the other would fit. Well, I trust you about historical facts and it makes no sense for me to dive into research of the past. I just would like to suggest to fix the Wiki Pages that

Re: Logo for tasks page

2008-07-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, the tool which builds the tasks page is fixed now. So I was faster than you to decide which logo should be displayed. Currently it is now slx-tux. I have no strong opinion on it - just say clearly what you want to see there (or rather don't only say it - check it into SVN ...). Remark abou

Re: Logo for tasks page

2008-07-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: I like the penguin with the bag, but I miss a swirl there.. :) I like this guy as well, but the format is broken in this scope - we need a banner like image with a large width and a small height ... I'd suggest "Bokmål desktop" then. Because afaik th

Re: Educational Desktop Design: e.g. Linpus

2008-07-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Do you mean that you would like a "Start this application" button added to the GoPlay! application browser (and its variations too in recent incarnations, like GoLearn!, GoAdmin!, GoOffice! and others)? I think there is one problem inbetween which m

Please use proper task names in debian-edu tasks files

2008-07-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, as you can see on the tasks pages some overlongish tasks names disturb the output in the left menu. I do not know whether these names are used anywhere else. But in any case the recently added names are no real "names". Please have a look at: $ grep --no-filename "^Task:" tasks/* Task: A

Bug#491661: debian-edu: Please use proper task names

2008-07-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: debian-edu Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Please fix the task names in lang-n[bn]-desktop* task files which are to long in the case of the "non-KDE" tasks and no real names in the "KDE" tasks. See the suggested patch. Kind regards Andreas. -- System Information: Debian Release:

New name: Call for opinions

2008-08-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I would like to hear opinons about the new naming proposal given at http://wiki.debian.org/CDDNamingProposals#head-7bb1ae330046f9d0720b77e76d6ee7aa992b754f So I think we should go on renaming waht formerly used to be Custom Debian Distributions to Debian Integrated Solutions p

Re: DebianDayPT 2008 report

2008-08-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Miguel Figueiredo wrote: 'DebianDayPT 2008' [1] took place in the University of Aveiro, Portugal on the Debian's 15th anniversary (16-Aug-2008). The event, attended by more than 50 Debian users/friends, had several presentations [2] about Debian: * "Debian Project - what is

Re: does anyone know a substitution for CrystalMaker

2008-09-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I'm not quite sure what you are looking for, as I do not know CrystalMaker, but here are some proposals based on the education-chemistry task for visualizing molecules: http://viewmol.sourceforge.net/ http://www.umass.edu/microbio/rasmol/ http:/

Re: Criteria for educational software

2008-09-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, RalfGesellensetter wrote: Practically aspects: Software that is already being used by teachers in educational context might be called fit for school. This aspect seems to be reasonable at first glance, but I feel unhappy with this. The reason is that several Free Software

Re: Criteria for educational software

2008-09-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: But sure, go ahead and setup an isolated structure for non-packaged stuff or if not interested in pushing the broader perspective here. There is an "isolated" structure in the tasks files inside the debian-edu source package (prospective packages).

Re: does anyone know a substitution for CrystalMaker

2008-09-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Carlo Segre wrote: As someone else mentioned, Jmol is a good choice too but there was only an unoffical Debian package which is 3 years out of date and not on the http://debian.wgdd.de/debian site any longer. I do have that package if you are interested but I have not upda

Re: Criteria for educational software

2008-09-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, RalfGesellensetter wrote: In order to merge in an approved taxonomy for educational software, I'd like to point once more to the GnuEdu project. But in any case, we will have a multidimensional structure that can not be represented in a 2D grid or by a simpe tree hierarchy.

Re: does anyone know a substitution for CrystalMaker

2008-09-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Ji ZhengYu wrote: I have an advice, remove this link http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/edu/tasks/chemistry.html ^^^ because I think it's spare. Why we need this if there is a much more complete source in http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/science

Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-09-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi once more to all related lists, my suggestion for a new name received a lot of comments and it turned out that I got not so much positive reactions on the mailing list than when discussing it with people at DebConf. The consequence of the discussion of the debian-custom mailing list was that

Re: Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-09-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: So we decided to remove all votes from the current ballot next Monday morning This happened now because nobody showe up who found a way to change a vote on doodle. and start voting again about the suggestions which are known at this point in time

Re: Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-09-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, David Paleino wrote: where "Change vote" is a link pointing to http://doodle.ch/edition.html?pollId=ggey86bvqnmcnuyb&participantName=David+Paleino&participantId=$id&credential=$credential (obviously, $id and $credential have been stripped off :) ) I believe that just savin

Re: Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-10-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: Once the poll is restarted from scratch no additional name suggestions will be accepted. The new name will be in the set specified inside the poll. People several times criticised that this type of poll is inferior to a condorset voting method. In

Re: Next irc meeting

2008-10-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008, Daniel Hess wrote: So after talking to Petter on irc I'm now suggesting Wednesday the 5th November still 19:00 UTC (and 20:00 CET). On regular Wednesdays (except in school holidays in Germany) I'm not able to attend before 20:00 UTC (21:00 CET). I do not consider this as

Re: r55307 - in trunk/src/debian-edu: debian tasks

2008-10-27 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2008 12:15, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Note that we need these firmware packages to be on the CD and DVD to make sure the hardware work. Using suggests will not make that happen, which is why I used Depends (Recommends would onl

Re: Next irc meeting: Today (Wednesday) 19:00 UTC

2008-11-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Daniel Hess wrote: In oder to make this meeting really happen, we still need someone who volunteers to moderate the meeting. The agenda also needs some attention, otherwise the meeting will most properly not last one hour :) I really hope that it lasts one hour because I in

Announcement: New bugs pages, status of renaming

2008-11-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I'm proud to announce a new QA tool for all CDD^W Blends: Overview about all bugs about Dependencies of our metapackages. For the impatient here is a list of these pages: Edu: http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/edu/bugs GIS: http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/gis/bugs Jr: http://c

Re: future of debian-edu

2008-11-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Gerhard Prade wrote: from my point of view i have a lot of wishes, Just tell us. Creating a wishlist is always welcome. You could also use the bug reporting tool `reportbug` and tag you bug as 'wishlist'. That's perfectly welcome. but i am afraid to ask, Please never

Re: future of debian-edu

2008-11-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Gerhard Prade] should i search for money, for people for developing? what can i do? [Andreas Tille] According to my experience finding people who do some work for money is not really successful. It depends a lot on how it is done, but it

Re: Debian Edu Developer Gathering in Oslo, Norway December 5.-7. 2008

2008-11-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Holger Levsen wrote: So I only have one question/wish: please finalize and announce the dates for the gathering in January as early as possible. At the moment I could still free myself for basically any day, in 4 weeks it might be too late. +1 !! Kind regards and thanks f

Re: Debian Edu Developer Gathering in Oslo, Norway December 5.-7. 2008

2008-11-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008, Morten Werner Forsbring wrote: The alternative dates for the gathering in January [1] is 23rd-25th and 30th-1st. Please tell us when you are able to join so we can decide the best alternative as soon as possible. A more official invitation and a deadline for deciding the dat

Yet another list statistics for debian-edu

2009-01-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, as you can read in my lightning talk at DebConf http://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/200808_lightning/ I did some investigation on who is frequently posting on our mailing lists. I now created graphs until end of last year and write a short summary for those lists I regard worth a comme

iPreparing developer gathering in Trondheim

2009-01-22 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I would like to lay out my working plan for Trondheim because I probably need a member of the SkoleLinux team to talk to. I found out that there are several packages in the tasks files which are not contained in Debian unstable which is the basic source of information for the tasks pages at

Re: iPreparing developer gathering in Trondheim

2009-01-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I will unfortunately not be able to join in Trondheim this time. :( :-( BTW, it is correct that we have to bring sleeping bag and mattress as usual? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-

Re: iPreparing developer gathering in Trondheim

2009-01-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: - Is there anybody who volunteers to sit down next to me to check the list of packages. MOst probably there are some "totten bits" inside the tasks files I would like to remove. Yeah, can do :) Great. - Other packages might be

Re: iPreparing developer gathering in Trondheim

2009-01-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: What I meant: I think the tasks files for debian-edu (which in our svn trunk are currently targetted for testing) should be targeted at unstable. Well, lets discuss this face to face - I smell some missunderstanding how things are working - it's better

Eliminating SPAM from archive (Was: Yet another list statistics for debian-edu)

2009-01-26 Thread Andreas Tille
8 Jan 2009 13:47:21 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Tille To: listmas...@debian.org cc: report-lists...@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Yet another list statistics for debian-enterprise (fwd) ... Once I'm writing to listmaster: What information do you need if I detected potential spam lilke h

Re: Eliminating SPAM from archive (Was: Yet another list statistics for debian-edu)

2009-01-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Herman Robak wrote: Anyhow, is the listadmin working on this? I exchanged private mail with Don Armstrong on behalf of listmaster how we can avoid spam *in* *the* *archive*. I have no idea whether the SPAM I detected in the archive might be useful to increase SPAM filter

Re: Red Alert: Spam // Re: Yet another list statistics for debian-edu

2009-02-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I can set you up as a moderator of comm...@skolelinux if you want experience with listadmin. :) So I guess it is decided to moderate the list and I think this decision should be _acted_ on now-ish. I have no idea why debian-edu lists seems to att

My report from Trondheim gathering

2009-02-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, besides the fact that Trondheim did perfectly my expectations of a nice Norwegian city and that the hosting od SLX labs was perfect I would like to give a short summary of my work at the gathering: 1. I solved an issue of the tasks pages which was frequently critizised by visitors of bl

Re: FAQ: l...@ltsp; nx

2009-02-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Klaus Ade Johnstad wrote: I never had to to any tweaking to get nx running. I just add the "deb http://krnl.nl/freenx/ ./" to sources.list, and install freenx. Well, the need to add *any* entry to sources.list instead of having an official package just sucks. Why not conv

Re: lenny main contrib non-free

2009-02-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: in etch, Debian Edu only has a "local" category, while Debian has "main", "contrib" and "non-free". (Actually, they are not part of Debian but Debian provides infrastructure. Anyway...) I played around with UDD some bit. Once you mention SkoleLinux th

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