Replace ghemical in Debian Edu? (Was: Bug#826069: libghemical5v5: breaks color rendering and atom generation in ghemical)

2017-01-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Some background: The ghemical tool in Debian have a RC bug and might be missing in Stretch (See bug #826069). It is listed in a Debian Edu metapackage (education-chemistry). Michael wonder if perhaps we should use a replacement: [Michael Banck] > Unless there is a "no Qt" policy, I strongly adv

Stretch default desktop

2017-01-23 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, so according to https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Stretch our current stretch default desktop is Mate, and Mate is only 63% translated to Norwegian Nynorsk in Stretch and according to Mike this (translation status) is not gonna change. So what shall we do? a.) keep mate as default and

DVD image for Stretch?

2017-01-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, we're still not building a DVD image for Stretch… shall we start doing so? Or are there any reasons not to? Do we still think it's useful? -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Replace ghemical in Debian Edu? (Was: Bug#826069: libghemical5v5: breaks color rendering and atom generation in ghemical)

2017-01-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:31:49PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Michael Banck] > > Avogadro has a much better GUI and support for geometry optimizations > > via force fields as well; and can read/write output/input of severl > > quantum chemistry packages in Debian; you'd have to run the co

Re: Replace ghemical in Debian Edu? (Was: Bug#826069: libghemical5v5: breaks color rendering and atom generation in ghemical)

2017-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 01:48:35PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:31:49PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > [Michael Banck] > > > Avogadro has a much better GUI and support for geometry optimizations > > > via force fields as well; and can read/write output/input of se

Re: DVD image for Stretch?

2017-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 01:41:22PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > we're still not building a DVD image for Stretch… shall we start doing > so? Or are there any reasons not to? Only useful if KDE is kept as default desktop, I guess. > Do we still think it's useful? I guess yes, because it allows

Re: Stretch default desktop

2017-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 01:39:08PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > So what shall we do? > > a.) keep mate as default and live with that incomplete nynorsk > translation? > > b.) switch default desktop? to what: kde plasma as it was before, but > ressource consumptions might be too high. or

Re: DVD image for Stretch?

2017-01-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 05:40:42PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > > we're still not building a DVD image for Stretch… shall we start doing > Only useful if KDE is kept as default desktop, I guess. and > I guess yes, because it allows to install a complete system in an > environment with restri

Re: Replace ghemical in Debian Edu? (Was: Bug#826069: libghemical5v5: breaks color rendering and atom generation in ghemical)

2017-01-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 05:24:29PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > After a quick look at both tools I'd say that avogadro is much more user > friendly and has a lot more GUI features and tools available. thanks > > anyhow, maybe for now we'd just add avogadro as an alternative > > recommends?

Re: Stretch default desktop

2017-01-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 05:35:43PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > Not quite sure, but: keep KDE for the sake of continuity and a nicer > and modern user interface, useful if real workstations should be used. ok > OTOH recommend lxde if LTSP clients should be used (right at the start > of the

Re: DVD image for Stretch?

2017-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 05:26:48PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 05:40:42PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > > > we're still not building a DVD image for Stretch… shall we start doing > > Only useful if KDE is kept as default desktop, I guess. > > and > > > I guess yes, be

Re: DVD image for Stretch?

2017-01-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Wolfgang Schweer] > IIRC the DVD image contained all required packages for KDE only > (because of disk space restrictions), for other DEs internet > connection was needed. But this may have changed later with the blu > ray image... Absolutely, but the reason it contained the KDE packages, was bec

Re: DVD image for Stretch?

2017-01-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 09:26:33PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > IIRC the DVD image contained all required packages for KDE only (because > of disk space restrictions), for other DEs internet connection was > needed. But this may have changed later with the blu ray image... ok, we'll need to

Re: DVD image for Stretch?

2017-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 08:34:24PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > I've just edited the Makefile in svn so that now we'll be building these > images: > edu-testing-nolocal-netinst \ > edu-testing-nolocal-dvd \ > jessie-amd64-i386-netinst \ > jessie-usbstick > > which

Re: DVD image for Stretch?

2017-01-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 09:34:28PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I do not remember the details any more, but suspect debian-edu/tasks.ctl > is the file controlling which packages go into the large ISO. that file has both the line priority-high:education-desktop-other *and* priority-high:ed

Re: DVD image for Stretch?

2017-01-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Holger Levsen] > that file has both the line > priority-high:education-desktop-other > *and* > priority-high:education-desktop-kde > as well as > priority-med:education-desktop-gnome > priority-med:education-desktop-lxde Yes, look about right. After all, user applications should have higher pri

Re: DVD image for Stretch?

2017-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 11:21:53PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Holger Levsen] > > that file has both the line > > priority-high:education-desktop-other > > *and* > > priority-high:education-desktop-kde > > as well as > > priority-med:education-desktop-gnome > > priority-med:education-desk