Bug#273734: education-common: con't fulfill the Recommends on !i386

2004-10-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:31:06AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-main] > > 2.2.1 The main section > > Every package in main and non-US/main must comply with the DFSG > > (Debian Free Software Guidelines). > > In addition, the packa

Re: Outcome of Custom Debian Distro Workshop in Florence

2004-10-01 Thread Joey Hess
Otavio Salvador wrote: > I think the simple way to do it is include some take on Packages file > but I don't like it because we will enlarge it more and doesn't look > a clean solution to me. > > You think is bad try to have a preseed file or something like > preprocessed by dpkg-preconfigure? I

Next debian-edu devcamp October 22th to 24th

2004-10-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Next devcamp was just announced by Markus for 22th to 24th of October on the norwegian [EMAIL PROTECTED] This time we will also have a general assembly for the member organisation in Norway. I assume Markus will make more info available as soon as possible, just wanted to give you all a heads up

Re: Outcome of Custom Debian Distro Workshop in Florence

2004-10-01 Thread Otavio Salvador
|| On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 16:14:52 -0400 || Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: jh> Otavio Salvador wrote: >> Sure, if we can do it will work but how will the "preseeding package" >> be identified? jh> That, I don't know. :-) I think the simple way to do it is include some take on Packages file b

Re: Outcome of Custom Debian Distro Workshop in Florence

2004-10-01 Thread Joey Hess
Otavio Salvador wrote: > Sure, if we can do it will work but how will the "preseeding package" > be identified? That, I don't know. :-) -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements·Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread C. Gatzemeier
> > > 3.5.3. Delivery directory > > > > > > Here pupils should be able to deliver finished documents or > > > files. This directory should not be readable by other > > > pupils. Teachers should easily be able to fetch and move these > > > documents and files. > > > > Hm, I suspect this feature wou

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements?Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 05:48:29PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > | Should I mail them to you privately or upload them somewhere? > > Mail them to me, and I'll publish them at http://wiki.jones.dk/ or as > ready-made packages (with source) at http://debian.jones.dk/ . > > Or create a wikipage y

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements·Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Otavio Salvador
|| On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:22:47 +0200 (CEST) || Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: at> On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Otavio Salvador wrote: > system for keeping track (for existance, upgrades, etc) of all > installed machines, and a system to administrate several machines as > one could be

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements·Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Otavio Salvador
|| On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:25:19 +0200 || Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: as> * Otavio Salvador ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041001 14:13]: >> I don't know if FAI is the best one here. I think one way to do one >> install and save the debconf database to be used like preseeding for >> next inst

Re: kschoolmenu packaging

2004-10-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01-10-2004 16:25, Gavin McCullagh wrote: | Hi all, | | Just to note in passing that for the time being I cannot afford the time to | start packaging kschoolmenu. Not that it would take so much time of itself | but I would have much to learn before I

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements?Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01-10-2004 15:40, Brian Sutherland wrote: | On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 03:02:42PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: | |>| Just a side point here. |>| |>| FAI currently does not directly support debconf pre-seeding for |>| installations, but I know of at le

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Ralf Gesel|ensetter
Hi Petter, thanks from me, too, for reviewing this translation. Am Donnerstag, 30. September 2004 21:10 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: ... > > > An administrator should be able to install an uninterruptable power > > supply (UPS) easily. > > Eh, yes. But how is this related to Skolelinux? This, i

kschoolmenu packaging

2004-10-01 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Hi all, Just to note in passing that for the time being I cannot afford the time to start packaging kschoolmenu. Not that it would take so much time of itself but I would have much to learn before I would consider that I could package it properly. I am currently trying to finish off my PhD as we

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements?Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 03:02:42PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > | Just a side point here. > | > | FAI currently does not directly support debconf pre-seeding for > | installations, but I know of at least one proposal (with patches) to > add it. > | > | I think Thomas is considering this for FAI

Re: Research: Who was on thin client XY yesterday? (Logology)

2004-10-01 Thread Thomas Templin
On Friday 01 October 2004 15:55, Ralf Gesel|ensetter wrote: > Hi there, > > back from what I knew (or thought I knew), I'd considered it easy to tell, > who was the last guy working on some thin client that _now_ lacks its > mouse! (Robbery!). > > This is true for samba's logging. But in auth.log,

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements·Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Thomas Templin
On Thursday 30 September 2004 22:39, Kurt Gramlich wrote: > * Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040930 20:59]: > > Hi, Kurt. > > > > I finally found time to read through > http://developer.skolelinux.no/qualityManagement/DQ/requirementsSpec > >ification.html.en>. Sorry for taking so long.

Research: Who was on thin client XY yesterday? (Logology)

2004-10-01 Thread Ralf Gesel|ensetter
Hi there, back from what I knew (or thought I knew), I'd considered it easy to tell, who was the last guy working on some thin client that _now_ lacks its mouse! (Robbery!). This is true for samba's logging. But in auth.log, I don't see a hint, from where a user logged on. It all says: ltspser

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements?Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01-10-2004 14:48, Brian Sutherland wrote: | Just a side point here. | | FAI currently does not directly support debconf pre-seeding for | installations, but I know of at least one proposal (with patches) to add it. | | I think Thomas is considering t

configuration of postoffice / kmail?

2004-10-01 Thread Ralf Gesel|ensetter
Hi there, to teach pupils setting up and using mail clients like mozilla's mail composer or kmail, it is important to have some local mail server running that does smtp/pop3 and maybe imap, too. After some requests on the German lists I checked this out: /etc/kde2/kmailrc is not preconfigured

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements?Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 02:25:19PM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Otavio Salvador ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041001 14:13]: > > I don't know if FAI is the best one here. I think one way to do one > > install and save the debconf database to be used like preseeding for > > next installations is the be

Re: softwares educational

2004-10-01 Thread Ralf Gesel|ensetter
Am Freitag, 1. Oktober 2004 14:05 schrieb leo.info: > I read in the list a message with the address of the specifications, > but still softwares does not consist educational. > Somebody could help me? Dear Leo (if this is your name), Skolelinux is mainly thought to give a complete solution for sc

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements·Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Otavio Salvador ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041001 14:13]: > I don't know if FAI is the best one here. I think one way to do one > install and save the debconf database to be used like preseeding for > next installations is the best. otavio, i agree fully with you: pre-seeding (and powerfull postinstal

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements·Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Otavio Salvador wrote: system for keeping track (for existance, upgrades, etc) of all installed machines, and a system to administrate several machines as one could be mentioned as well. Like FAI ;-) FAI do this? Well "administrate" in this way that the *complete* configuration

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements·Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Otavio Salvador
|| On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 08:40:59 +0200 (CEST) || Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: at> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Kurt Gramlich wrote: >> In the adult education i need root acounts for every pupil, so i >> think about to merge the nice features of FAI fully automated >> installation and skolelinux

softwares educational

2004-10-01 Thread leo.info
Which are softwares educational existing in the Eskolelinux? I obtained to install but still I did not understand the filosofica of the distribution well. I read in the list a message with the address of the specifications, but still softwares does not consist educational. Somebody could help me? [

Bug#273734: education-common: con't fulfill the Recommends on !i386

2004-10-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01-10-2004 11:44, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: | On 01-10-2004 10:44, Adrian Bunk wrote: | | On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:31:06AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: | | | |>[Adrian Bunk] | | |>>In addition, the packages in main | |>> | |>>- must not require

Bug#273734: education-common: con't fulfill the Recommends on !i386

2004-10-01 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-01 10:31]: > > In addition, the packages in main > > > > - must not require a package outside of main for compilation or > > execution (thus, the package must not declare a "Depends", > > "Recommends", or "Build-Depends" relationship on a non-m

Bug#273734: education-common: con't fulfill the Recommends on !i386

2004-10-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01-10-2004 10:44, Adrian Bunk wrote: | On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:31:06AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: | |>[Adrian Bunk] |>>In addition, the packages in main |>> |>>- must not require a package outside of main for compilation or |>> execution (

Bug#273734: education-common: con't fulfill the Recommends on !i386

2004-10-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Adrian Bunk] > I read your policy in a way that these things must be fulfilled on > all architectures. Yes, I realised that this was your interpretation of the Debian Policy. My interpretation is different. I'm not quite sure how to reach we should conclusion on which interpretation is the one

Bug#273734: education-common: con't fulfill the Recommends on !i386

2004-10-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:31:06AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Adrian Bunk] > > If you can't fulfill a Recommends, that's a violation of section > > 2.2.1. of your policy. > > That is not how I interpret section 2.2.1. > > [http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-main]

Bug#273734: education-common: con't fulfill the Recommends on !i386

2004-10-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Adrian Bunk] > If you can't fulfill a Recommends, that's a violation of section > 2.2.1. of your policy. That is not how I interpret section 2.2.1. [http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-main] > 2.2.1 The main section > > Every package in main and non-US/main must comply wit

Bug#273734: education-common: con't fulfill the Recommends on !i386

2004-10-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 08:31:11AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Can anyone explain to me why the use of recommends: grub is a policy > violation? I scanned through the policy and failed to find anything > obvious. If you can't fulfill a Recommends, that's a violation of section 2.2.1. of

Bug#273734: education-common: con't fulfill the Recommends on !i386

2004-10-01 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Can anyone explain to me why the use of recommends: grub is a policy violation? I scanned through the policy and failed to find anything obvious. [Martin Schulze] > I'd rather investigate why education-common needs to recommend grub > at all. > > The name makes me think that it's a "task" package

Re: Comments on the "Skolelinux - User Requirements·Specification"

2004-10-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Kurt Gramlich wrote: In the adult education i need root acounts for every pupil, so i think about to merge the nice features of FAI fully automated installation and skolelinux. In a tutorial with Thomas Lange i lerned about FAI. If we get a school with about 50 workstations to