Re: dpkg-buildpackage now reorganizing debian/control Depends field??

2008-02-22 Thread Mike Bird
t the unnecessary reordering has no side-effects? Would you mind repeating the (hopefully automated) proof for each Lenny release candidate? Thanks, --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dpkg-buildpackage now reorganizing debian/control Depends field??

2008-02-22 Thread Mike Bird
dentify any benefit that cannot be achieved with less disruption. In short, the sole dubious identified benefit can be easily achieved by an alternative approach that is non-disruptive. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance

2008-02-24 Thread Mike Bird
s for #281057 and #432893, and my implementation of `Breaks' > support in dselect, are outstanding too, since early November. For those like me with short memories, would you mind (re-)posting links to the specs for Triggers and Breaks and any other features you're suggesting. T

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-02-29 Thread Mike Bird
that could be better spent programming or packaging or playing with the grandkids. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-02-29 Thread Mike Bird
Ian's productivity, and the teacher of such a class might help Guillem develop his skills better than Ian could. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-02-29 Thread Mike Bird
On Fri February 29 2008 09:26:32 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Mike Bird wrote: > > I'm not a DD but I've been programming since 1963 when I was 7. > > Based on decades of software engineering experience, I would > > just like to remin

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-02 Thread Mike Bird
ature and have the new developer restart development of the trivial new feature from scratch. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-04 Thread Mike Bird
aphael seems to have the power to block your packages but he has no rational excuse. Can the tech committee overrule Raphael or does Debian need to fork a dpkg under more sensible maintainers? --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Bird
objects here within 48 hours that Ian should proceed with his update? --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Bird
On Wed March 5 2008 13:30:06 Otavio Salvador wrote: > Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed March 5 2008 12:29:08 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> I've been added to dpkg's Uploader a few weeks ago, I'm not dpkg's main > >> coordinator.

Re: git bikeshedding (Re: triggers in dpkg, and dpkg maintenance)

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Bird
On Wed March 5 2008 14:52:04 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Wed, 05 Mar 2008, Mike Bird wrote: > > Please post the URL for this policy. I apologize if you've already > > posted and I missed it, but Google couldn't find it for me. > > http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dp

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
d work their way up through simpler programming tasks before taking on something as crucial as dpkg. On the other hand, fer crissake Ian stop using 0 for NULL! You can use (char*)NULL if it helps. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
back to the obstructionists. If Anthony has posted an explanation I have not seen it. You will recall Anthony - he alienated many Debian developers with the Dunk-Tank fiaco and thereby significantly delayed the release of Etch. This apparently makes Anthony a natural ally of the dpkg blocking team.

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 9 2008 14:46:50 Cyril Brulebois wrote: > On 09/03/2008, Mike Bird wrote: > > Ian hijacked his own program back from the people who had been > > blocking updates for six months - including the triggers enhancement > > which is needed for boot time improvements >

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 9 2008 16:07:58 Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ian hijacked his own program back from the people who had been blocking > > updates for six months - including the triggers enhancement which is > > neede

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 9 2008 17:30:51 Daniel Stone wrote: > [Not subscribed, Cc if you want me to see it.] > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 01:19:58PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > > Ian hijacked his own program back from the people who had been blocking > > updates for six months > &

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-11 Thread Mike Bird
Hi Guillem, Ian wrote that you recently committed 402 diff lines of stuff like this:   -static void usage(void) {   +void   +usage(void)   +{ It's easy to see negatives such as making it harder to merge long-awaited features. What positives do you see for Debian? --Mike Bird

Re: dpkg with triggers support (again)

2008-03-12 Thread Mike Bird
h the task instead of time-wasting. AFTER the long-delayed features have been merged and any remaining patches have been picked up from the BTS would be an appropriate time to think about refactorings. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-12 Thread Mike Bird
ver developers-reference. Ian appears to have chosen to speak truth to power rather than forking. Do you have a constructive alternative to suggest? --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Triggers Pending

2008-04-26 Thread Mike Bird
to me like the exact opposite of triggers pending. Do I need to run "dpkg --configure --pending", and if so how often? --Mike Bird Please respect reply-to debian-user as I'm not subscribed to debian-dpkg. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Triggers Pending

2008-04-27 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat April 26 2008 19:15:45 Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 03:06:04PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > > With today's 1.14.18 dpkg update in Testing, my initramfs-tools >