Re: Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Guillem, KiBi, (It may be worthwhile taking a moment to read the bug logs of #766459 and #767999.) On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 8:34:49 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > Control: severity -1 serious > Control: retitle -1 dpkg: Correct fix breaks bogus assumptions in old > debootstrap > I'd say the bug

Re: Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014, Guillem Jover wrote: > I'm going to revert the commit above (only in 1.17.x, it will be kept > in 1.18.x), because it is very minimal, just reintroduces again an > unnecessary package queue stage, and such regression is acceptable if > it makes buggy bootstrappers work again. B

Re: Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Santiago Vila (2014-11-07): > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > > To stick with Santiago's earlier wording, we are now shooting the next > > messenger (this time dpkg, after first working hard against base-files). > > Indeed. I would not like to see dpkg as the next "victim" of t

Re: Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > To stick with Santiago's earlier wording, we are now shooting the next > messenger (this time dpkg, after first working hard against base-files). Indeed. I would not like to see dpkg as the next "victim" of this problem. Being able to bootstrap jes

Re: debootstrap/base-passwd: #767999 and #766459 should really be fixed in base-passwd

2014-11-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 02:06:07PM +, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > At least Santiago's and my opinion diverge on whether base-passwd is presently > in line with policy on 3.8 Essential packages. Therefore the route from here > appears to hinge on interpreting policy in one of two ways: my point

Re: Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 08:30:39 +, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 8:34:49 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > > Control: severity -1 serious > > Control: retitle -1 dpkg: Correct fix breaks bogus assumptions in old > > debootstrap > > I'd say the bug title ought to be "Cor

Re: Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hello Guillem, All, First of all thanks to everyone for the efforts to fix these problems. It seems we've now got fixes in place both in (c)debootstrap and base-passwd, so hopefully we're fine for the next few releases... :-) On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 17:38:06 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Fri,