beep-media-player transition options

2008-01-23 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, We (Audacious package maintainers) would like to provide a transitional package for beep-media-player, since it is now removed in Lenny. We feel that audacious is a sufficient replacement for BMP, as it's BMP's logical successor. BMPx is not a good choice for a transitional package, as it is a

Re: beep-media-player transition options

2008-01-24 Thread William Pitcock
On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 09:49 +, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 03:22:46PM -0600, William Pitcock wrote: > > > We (Audacious package maintainers) would like to provide a transitional > > package for beep-media-player, since it is now removed in Lenny. We feel

Re: Bug#462740: ITP: demac -- A decoder for Monkey's Audio (APE) lossless files

2008-01-26 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, demac has some bugs with v3.97 format files. I would recommend merging in patches from ffmpeg and making a seperate product. William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: changing the default syslog daemon for lenny?

2008-01-27 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 01:55 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > On 11278 March 1977, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > >> So we decided to switch to syslog-ng for now. > > > >> On the #debian-release channel some people claimed, that syslog-ng is not > >> a > >> drop-in replac

Re: Introducing security hardening features for Lenny

2008-01-29 Thread William Pitcock
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 22:37 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:16:24PM +, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > Fortify Source > > == > > > > This feature adds validation for internal C functions such as strcpy > > for buffer sizes known during compile time. While v

Bug#463167: ITP: dsyslog -- a dumb syslog

2008-01-29 Thread William Pitcock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I am writing a syslog daemon called dsyslog. Why you ask? Because none of the other syslogd's were designed in the way that I would like, so I figured I would do it myself. * Package name: dsyslo

Re: Bug#463167: ITP: dsyslog -- a dumb syslog

2008-01-29 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 18:54 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > dsyslog is a dumb, yet advanced syslog daemon, which supports > infinite > > rules and expandability through it's purely modular design. The > default > > configuration is a drop in replacement for syslogd. > > What's so dumb about

Re: Bug#463167: ITP: dsyslog -- a dumb syslog

2008-01-29 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 16:22 +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 19:07 -0600, William Pitcock wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 18:54 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > dsyslog is a dumb, yet advanced syslog daemon, which supports

Re: Bug#463167: ITP: dsyslog -- a dumb syslog

2008-01-30 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 10:02 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:47:45 -0600, William Pitcock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (on another note, dsyslog is now complete enough that it has replaced > > the syslogd on my desktop.) > > Wha

Re: Bug#463167: ITP: dsyslog -- a dumb syslog

2008-01-30 Thread William Pitcock
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 06:36 +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting William Pitcock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > Users are very good at missing these jokes. > > > > > > -Rob > > > > Yes, I hadn't thought of that. I'll just refer to it a

Re: Bug#463862: ITP: ipafont -- Japanese high quality TrueType font

2008-02-03 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 05:53 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > >Package name: ipafont This should be ttf-ipafont. William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-03 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 14:19 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 08:06:22PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Feb 2008, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: > > >> I think that's contention, the difference in opinion between the > >> package maintainer and some users about what so

Re: Bug#463973: ITP: deejayd -- A media player daemon

2008-02-04 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 18:08 +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Alexandre Rossi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Alexandre Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > * Package name: deejayd > > Version : 0.6.2 > > Upstream Author : Mickaël

Proposal: Alternatives: field for debian/control

2008-02-04 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, There's a lot of packages in Debian which do the same basic thing, but slightly differently. Having an Alternatives: field would be nice for listing alternative packages which package maintainers may find useful to try if the user does not like how the package they are installing behaves. As

Re: Bug#464766: ITP: squirrelmail-compatibility -- Squirrelmail plugin used by other plugins to work with older SM versions

2008-02-09 Thread William Pitcock
On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 07:54 +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Jan Hauke Rahm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Jan Hauke Rahm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > * Package name: squirrelmail-compatibility > > Version : 2.0.9 > > Upstream Autho

Re: Bug#464766: ITP: squirrelmail-compatibility -- Squirrelmail plugin used by other plugins to work with older SM versions

2008-02-09 Thread William Pitcock
On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 12:10 +0100, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > Can't those plugins use > Depends: squirrelmail-compatibility (<= 2.0) > to solve that? No, because both dpkg and apt generally assume only one version of something is installable at the same time. This is why we have gcc4.2-*, gcc4.3-*

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread William Pitcock
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 22:11 +, brian m. carlson wrote: > As far as I can tell, /usr/bin/test and /usr/bin/[ are completely > useless, because none of bash, dash, posh, or zsh use them. Maybe > pdksh > does, but that's pretty much the list of shells that could be coerced > into being /bin/sh

Re: pre-building NEW packages, when they only introduce new binary packages

2008-02-11 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 18:02 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 08:06:38PM +0100, Evgeni Golov a écrit : > > On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:10:20 -0500 Philippe Cloutier wrote: > > > > > > That probably won't make much time difference on "fast" archs (i386, > > > > amd64 etc), but

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 23:48 -0500, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 20:39 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > So we should also never upgrade /usr/bin/python, /usr/bin/perl, or > > /usr/bin/gcc to point at a new upstream version because users may > have local > > programs that a

Re: Proposition: 'NMU' upload of wxwidgets 2.8

2008-02-12 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 00:55 +0100, Vadim Zeitlin wrote: > And, seeing from your signature that you're both a Debian and Ubuntu > developer, I'd like to notice that Ubuntu doesn't seem to find > anything > catastrophic with shipping wx2.8 which it does since quite some time. So Ubuntu ships w

Bug#466188: ITP: uade -- unix amiga delitracker emulator

2008-02-16 Thread William Pitcock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: uade Version : 2.0.9 Upstream Author : Heikki Orsila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://zakalwe.fi/uade * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, m68k ASM

Bug#466187: ITP: ha-audacious -- player for GameBoy Advanced(R) chiptunes

2008-02-16 Thread William Pitcock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ha-audacious Version : 0.41 Upstream Author : William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://nenolod.net/audacious * License : GPL Programmin

Re: Debian mirror CDN had launched.

2008-02-17 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 13:08 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > 61.115.118.67 is ftp.de.debian.org. I am located in France with an > IP > address of one of the largest ISP here. This ISP is hosting an > official > Debian mirror. 61.115.118.67 is assigned to ASNIC, so there is no possible way i

Intent to hijack gtkglext

2008-02-17 Thread William Pitcock
Hello, The current maintainer of gtkglext has not been maintaining the package since 2004. The last upload was in 2006 to fix an NMU, which has not been acknowledged yet. The current package is two major versions out of date (1.0 vs 1.2). I need a newer version of gtkglext for various projects I

Marcelo E. Magallon seems to be MIA

2008-02-17 Thread William Pitcock
Hello, Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> appears to be MIA, and most of his packages have been NMU'd. You may want to consider orphaning them. I have prepared an upload for gtkglext, so that one can be considered under my maintainership "really soon now". William signature.asc Descriptio

Re: Intent to hijack gtkglext

2008-02-18 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 11:15 +0100, Guus Sliepen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:20:12PM -0600, William Pitcock wrote: > > > The current maintainer of gtkglext has not been maintaining the package > > since 2004. The last upload was in 2006 to fix an NMU, whic

Upstream API breakage question

2008-02-19 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, libprojectM upstream are soon releasing libprojectM 1.1 which makes the following breakage: public: PCM *projectM::pcm is replaced by: public: const inline PCM *projectM::pcm() { return _pcm; } So, is this the proper solution: * libprojectm1 -> libprojectm2 * libprojectm-dev -> libproject

Re: Looking for co-maintainer for mercurial

2008-02-20 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, I'll be happy to help with this package. William On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 19:05 +0100, Vincent Danjean wrote: > Hi, > > I'm the maintainer of the DSCM mercurial. > At this moment, I do not have lot of free time. Moreover, I'm not a > big user of mercurial anymore (I often use git that I find

Re: Looking for co-maintainer for mercurial

2008-02-24 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 12:30 +0100, Ondrej Certik wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 9:10 PM, William Pitcock > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > &g

Bug#467274: ITP: pcc -- the portable C compiler

2008-02-24 Thread William Pitcock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I am interested in pcc for several months, so I intend to package it in Debian. * Package name: pcc Version : 0.9.9 Upstream Author : Anders Magnusson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-24 Thread William Pitcock
On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 14:00 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > John H. Robinson, IV writes ("Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal"): > > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > echo() { /bin/echo "$@" } > > > > echo() { /bin/echo ${1+"$@"}; } > > > > I believe you mean. > > Why ?! Because stand-alone $

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-24 Thread William Pitcock
On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 08:30 -0600, William Pitcock wrote: > On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 14:00 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > John H. Robinson, IV writes ("Re: dash bug which is affecting release > > goal"): > > > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > echo() { /b

Re: Looking for co-maintainer for mercurial

2008-02-24 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 15:59 +0100, Vincent Danjean wrote: > William Pitcock wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, 2008-02-24 at 12:30 +0100, Ondrej Certik wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>&

Re: Extending fortunes-debian-hints package

2008-02-25 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 09:39 +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > > Feel free to pass it to me for adding your hints into > > > package. > > > > Would it make sense to make a page in the wiki about it? That might > > make it easier for peo

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-26 Thread William Pitcock
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 19:21 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > While bug reports are certainly important input, lame and stupid bug > reports are not. What is lame and stupid to us may not be lame and stupid to the average user. Just because you find no value in a particular report (or set of repor

Re: Idea of Debian mascot

2008-02-26 Thread William Pitcock
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 12:21 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > In natural environments, you could hardly find animals living as far > apart as polar bears and penguins. A polar bear has to swim/walk close > to 15,000Km (as neither lives really on the poles, right?) to find a > decent penguin. "to find a

Re: Idea of Debian mascot

2008-02-26 Thread William Pitcock
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 21:19 +0100, Harald Braumann wrote: > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:45:05 +0100 > "Miriam Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2008/2/26, David Given <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > > > > > > I'd really rather see something nicer than an ant as a mascot. :) >

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-27 Thread William Pitcock
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 10:20 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > You don’t know Jidanni, do you? It doesn't matter if I do or not. Someone who is trying to contribute shouldn't be told to piss off, or ridiculed on -devel. Doing that will drive away not only that contributor, but any potential contribu

Re: Looking for co-maintainer for mercurial

2008-02-27 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 08:11 -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Tue February 26 2008 6:55:53 am Ondrej Certik wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Edward Allcutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > So that would make hg the only VCS package maintained in a VCS inferior > > > to itse

Re: apt-get and SOCKS!

2008-02-28 Thread William Pitcock
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 16:53 +, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:39:06AM +0100, Edward Tjornhammar wrote: > > apt-get provides http_proxy and ftp_proxy support but why not SOCKS? > > I have no experience with SOCKS other than that I use it daily in > > conjunction with firefox and

Re: Bug#468183: ITP: monkey -- small webserver based on the HTTP/1.1 protocol

2008-02-28 Thread William Pitcock
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 18:47 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Guus Sliepen dijo [Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 07:55:08PM +0100]: > > > Monkey is a Web Server written in C based on the HTTP/1.1 protocol. The > > > objective is to develop a fast, efficient, small and easy to configure > > > webserver. > > > Althou

Re: Many packaged programs that are doing the same thing

2008-02-29 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 10:38 +0100, Guus Sliepen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 08:02:39PM -0600, William Pitcock wrote: > > > > Even there, it looks very much like other "very small" webservers, > > > such as boa, bozohttpd, cherokee, fnord, lighttpd

Re: Bug#468183: ITP: monkey -- small webserver based on the HTTP/1.1 protocol

2008-02-29 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 11:16 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Fri, February 29, 2008 03:02, William Pitcock wrote: > > Why does a package need to clarify what's different about it than others > > like it? Debian is about having the possibility of choosing between many

Re: Bug#468183: ITP: monkey -- small webserver based on the HTTP/1.1 protocol

2008-02-29 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 10:33 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > But the user should not have to install 10 small HTTP servers just to > know what's the goddamn difference. That's extremely unhelpful from > us. We should tell the prospective user at a first glance why he wants > one httpd over another.

Re: Unsupported?

2008-02-29 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 21:54 +0900, Paul Wise wrote: > unsupported.d.n could be the right place for packages that are "not > good enough for Debian (yet)". It could be a good place to merge > packages removed from Debian for having no users (or whatever), > uploaded to Ubuntu, Nexenta, Preventa

Re: Unsupported?

2008-02-29 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 09:57 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > So if it's unsupported, set it up yourself instead of asking Debian to > dedicate resources to it. > I wasn't aware that I was asking Debian to dedicate resources to it. William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signe

Re: Please allow the migration of the packages stalled in the MIPS buildd backlog.

2008-03-02 Thread William Pitcock
Because they don't want to. William On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 17:30 -0500, Michael Casadevall wrote: > What about simply decoupling mips/mipsel's version numbers so an out of > date package on mips(el) doesn't stall out the rest of the testing. Having > (somewhat) setup britney/update_out to genera

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 19:27 +, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > You're hurting the credibility of the comittee and of the whole > project. > That's much more important than a disagreement on a technical matter. On the other hand allowing dpkg to be maintained in the way that it presently is, is

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread William Pitcock
On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 20:38 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > And what is the problem exactly? The delay in patch integration? A six month delay is unacceptable for code review. If it takes six months, then new leadership is clearly required. William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 13:19 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > including the triggers enhancement which is > needed for boot time improvements and which should simplify some other > packaging issues. I think you mean package install-time improvements, due to postponing ldconfig until the end of the in

Bug#470574: installs into non-policy-compliant /usr/libexec

2008-03-11 Thread William Pitcock
Package: mingw32 Version: 4.2.1.dfsg-1 Severity: serious Justification: policy 8.2 (?) Hi, After installing mingw32, I noticed the following files in /usr/libexec/gcc, they should be installed to /usr/lib/gcc instead: /usr/libexec /usr/libexec/gcc /usr/libexec/gcc/i586-mingw32msvc /usr/libexec/

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-11 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 22:06 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > Hi Guillem, > > Ian wrote that you recently committed 402 diff lines of stuff > like this: > -static void usage(void) { > +void > +usage(void) > +{ > > It's easy to see negatives such as making it harder to merge > long-awaited fe

Re: Intend to hijack xchat-xsys

2008-03-12 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 22:19 -0200, UlisesVitulli wrote: > I've been talking with the maintainer[1] of xchat-xsys[2] for several > bugs and many new upstream releases hold back on Debian, and he > communicated me that he is not longer interested on maintaining it any > more. Tell him to orphan

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-12 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 11:16 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > Ian appears to have chosen to speak truth to power rather than > forking. Do you have a constructive alternative to suggest? $ echo ":/dpkg/i" >> ~/.killfile William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Proposing a new source control header to link to upstream BTSs

2008-03-16 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 02:38 -0300, Martín Ferrari wrote: > Dear -devel: > > Following the trend to add metadata to the debian/control file that > allows for the creation of new and powerful tools, I thought about the > usefulness of a header that'd allow to automatically relate to > upstream bug t

Bug#471726: ITP: mpx -- library-oriented media player

2008-03-19 Thread William Pitcock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: mpx Version : 0.0 Upstream Author : Milosz Derezynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://hg.backtrace.info/mpx * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++

Re: BitTorrent and ISP interference (was: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?)

2008-03-19 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 07:51 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > That is a problem that won't be solved by avoiding use of BitTorrent; > on the contrary, reducing legitimate use of BitTorrent can only result > in supporting those who would paint BitTorrent as a tool without > significant legitimate use.

Re: Bug#471726: ITP: mpx -- library-oriented media player

2008-03-19 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 07:39 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On mer, 2008-03-19 at 14:17 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > MPX guys are writing a successor to MPX now called mpx > > You mean BMPx? Yes, yes I do. William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: RFC: preventing accidental deletion of system directories

2008-03-22 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 22:16 +1300, Francois Marier wrote: > Basically, the wrapper (see attached file) has a blacklist which > contains > directories like /usr/lib, /home, /etc and removes those before > passing its > arguments to the real 'rm' command. While I'm sorry for you having to reins

Re: RFC: preventing accidental deletion of system directories

2008-03-22 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 13:51 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > To get those Vistaesque questions, "alias rm='rm -i'" is surely not > worth a > package. It's slightly larger in scope, but only slightly, as > removing > files as root means you mess with system directories, right? Yes, that's what

Re: RFC: preventing accidental deletion of system directories

2008-03-22 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-23 at 00:08 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Christ, no. If you want Fedora you know where to find it. I was being sarcastic. But it's certaintly better than making some script the default. Optimally no change to rm is best unless you opt in. William signature.asc Descriptio

Re: Bug#474016: ITP: desktop-data-model -- a library for Mugshot and Online-Desktop

2008-04-02 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 15:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > That doesn't appear to be a valid address, It redirects to > http://www.mugshot.com/ which seems to be just a bunch of links to > scam and valid commercial web sites. Mugshot has always been at mugshot.org; not mugshot.com. So the ITP c

Re: Should -dev packages providing .pc files depend on pkg-config?

2008-04-05 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 15:30 +, brian m. carlson wrote: > I think it is safe to say that Debian supports passing the > appropriate > command line arguments without using pkg-config, even if upstream > does > not. At least that seems to be my experience. Yes, but people depending on this

Re: debian-multimedia-keyring/debian-backports-keyring in official debian repository?

2008-04-07 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 19:57 +0200, Peter Jordan wrote: > Hi, > > why are the keyrings of debian-multimedia.org and debian backports not > in the official repository of debian? > > At the moment you have to install untrusted keyrings before you can use > these repositories. Because they are

Bug#477106: ITP: codecgraph -- generate a routing graph for an Intel-HDA codec

2008-04-20 Thread William Pitcock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: codecgraph Version : 20080406 Upstream Author : Eduardo Habkost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://helllabs.org/codecgraph/ * License : GPLv2 Programming

Re: Bug#479440: ITP: funpidgin -- A pidgin fork

2008-05-04 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 23:28 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 23:24 +0300, Mohammed Sameer wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Mohammed Sameer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > * Package name: funpidgin > > Version : 2.4.1 > > Upstream Author

Re: Bug#479440: ITP: funpidgin -- A pidgin fork

2008-05-05 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 09:10 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > Am Montag, den 05.05.2008, 01:19 -0400 schrieb Kevin Mark: > > On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 11:28:40PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > On Sun, 2008-05-04 at 23:24 +0300, Mohammed Sameer wrote: > > > > Package: wnpp > > > > Seve

Bug#480509: ITP: mudkip-player -- an XMMS replacement

2008-05-10 Thread William Pitcock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: mudkip-player Version : 1.0~pre1-hg20080510 Upstream Author : William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.nenolod.net/mudkip-player (pending) * License

Re: what about an special QA package priority?

2008-05-20 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 17:21 -0300, Luciano Bello wrote: > Hi list, > I was thinking about the Debian/OpenSSL debacle. Clearly it not easy to > manage a hard meticulous QA process in all packages. In the other hand, there > are packages more critical than others, which are more delicate

Re: Bug#482414: ITP: guake -- A drop-down terminal for Gnome Desktop Environment

2008-05-22 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 21:39 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > Hmh, what are the real differences with tilda? AFAIK, tilda does not use VTE for it's terminal emulation, Guake does. William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Bug#483899: ITP: sockstat -- clone of freebsd's sockstat(1) utility

2008-05-31 Thread William Pitcock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: sockstat Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.nenolod.net/sockstat * License : BSD Programming Lang: C

Bug#485553: ITP: charybdis -- fast, scalable irc server

2008-06-09 Thread William Pitcock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: charybdis Version : 3.0.1 Upstream Author : William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jilles Tjoelker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Valery Yatsko

Re: Bug#485553: ITP: charybdis -- fast, scalable irc server

2008-06-10 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 11:21 +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:43:53PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > > * URL : http://www.ircd-charybdis.net > > * License : GPL > > > > Like oftc-hybrid, I intend to link this to Open

Re: Bug#485553: ITP: charybdis -- fast, scalable irc server

2008-06-10 Thread William Pitcock
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 10:46 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > - oftc-hybrid (impossible to get an exception, dead contributors) > > * As a special exception, the authors give permission to link the > code of this > * release of oftc-hybrid with the OpenSSL project's "OpenSSL" > library (or > *

Re: Bug#485553: ITP: charybdis -- fast, scalable irc server

2008-06-10 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 15:04 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > William Pitcock wrote: > > - znc (status unknown, but i see no exception in the source) > > Wow, you had me thinking I was a copyright fool for a minute there > (and wondering how such a mistake got past the ftpmasters)

Re: Bug#485553: ITP: charybdis -- fast, scalable irc server

2008-06-10 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 21:18 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:50:47AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > 2008/6/10 Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:43:53PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > > > >

Bug#485703: ITP: libratbox -- portable runtime for ircd-ratbox and charybdis

2008-06-10 Thread William Pitcock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libratbox Version : 3.0.0~svn25529 Upstream Author : Aaron Sethman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jilles Tjoelker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL

Re: Non-free IETF RFC/I-Ds in,source packages

2008-06-15 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 11:18 +1000, Brian May wrote: > I tried to upload what I have so far to Debian experimental so that > others can look at it (I hate being the sole maintainer of such a > complicated package). I think this is within the scope of experimental, > for anything that is expe

Re: Bug#486429: ITP: eternallands-music -- the music package for Eternal Lands, a free MMORPG

2008-06-15 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 02:15 +0100, Paul Broadhead wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Paul Broadhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: eternallands-music > Version : 1.6.0 > Upstream Author : Radu Privantu and Maura Privantu > * URL : http://ww

Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-15 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, I am wondering if it is a good idea to remove lilo entirely. At the moment, lilo has been pulled from testing, and the code is in a shape where a grave bug (bug #479607) is unlikely fixable without severe refactoring of the codebase. With grub being stable and grub2 approaching stability itse

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 09:08 +0200, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Le Monday 16 June 2008 07:31:49 William Pitcock, vous avez écrit : > > With grub being stable and grub2 approaching stability itself, do we > > really need lilo anymore? It's not even installed by default anymo

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 07:20 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2008-06-16, William Pitcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That doesn't strike me as a valid configuration. Infact, it shouldn't > > work with lilo because lilo wants /boot to be on a real device. The

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 19:27 +1000, Alexander Zangerl wrote: > please don't remove lilo. It certaintly won't be happening in lenny. This may be revisited in lenny+1 though. William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 00:31 -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > [a lot of stuff] As many people have brought up usecases not covered by alternatives, the plan seems to be: * Cope with the growing initramfs issue as best we can, e.g. by displaying a warning to the user that the kernel may not

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 13:58 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > FWIW, adding "-9" to the gzip in mkinitramfs gives a > 0.5% saving, which may help with some marginal cases. > > OTOH using bzip2 instead of gzip saves 10.5% but I have > no idea how much work it would take to support bzip'd > initrd's. >

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-17 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 23:53 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > William Pitcock wrote: > > * Cope with the growing initramfs issue as best we can, e.g. by > > displaying a warning to the user that the kernel may not be bootable by > > lilo due to the 8MiB boundry in liloconfig. > &g

Re: ITP: debian-backports-keyring -- GnuPG archive key of the backports.org repository

2008-06-23 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 19:34 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > I *used* to think that those disclaimers are implicit in most cases. > > But then, I was harshly accused of not making it clear enough that > I am neither a lawyer, nor a Debian developer, that I'm not providing > legal advice, and th

Re: ITP: debian-backports-keyring -- GnuPG archive key of the backports.org repository

2008-06-29 Thread William Pitcock
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 19:12 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:49:50PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > Have you ever heard the fable concerning a father, a son and a donkey? > > In a nutshell, first, nobody rides down the road on the donkey, and > >

Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-05 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 02:42 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > For discussion: > > Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are the the top three desktops used in debian and > cover most users of desktops in debian. > > They all use xdg .desktop-based menus as their main menu. > > xdg .desktop-based menus are no

Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-05 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 01:46 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > You mean the specification that is followed mostly in the breech by actual > implementations and to which KDE at least has a whole ton of extensions? > I think the XDG standard is actually *based* on the Desktop Entry spec from KDE1/KD

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-11 Thread William Pitcock
José Miguel Parrella Romero gmail.com> writes: > > The maintainers of the xmms package in Debian are proposing the removal > of the aforementioned package. Please read on. > > 1. Rationale > > * Upstream has deprecated development and support for the current > version of XMMS. > * Several part

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-11 Thread William Pitcock
Andreas Tille rki.de> writes: > > On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Thomas Viehmann wrote: > > > Removing the package from Debian will not affect current users that > > much, > > While I perfectly agree that there are replacements for xmms that at > first view look like a new version (for instnce audacious

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-14 Thread William Pitcock
Steve Greenland moregruel.net> writes: > > Like it or not, your software fits very much into the role played > by XMMS, such that someone who likes XMMS is more likely to choose > Audacious than, say, Rythymbox. That's why it's being discussed as a > "replacement". If we remove XMMS from the dis

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-14 Thread William Pitcock
Jon Dowland alcopop.org> writes: > Unless I've got my timeframes wrong, there were a few > successful attempts too. What's objectionable about people > trying to find security flaws in your software, apart from > their motivation for doing so? > There is nothing wrong with trying to find securi

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-14 Thread William Pitcock
Joseph Neal speakeasy.net> writes: > It's my impression that audicious is not scriptable so it can't be > as easily integrated into existing applications or controlled from emacs > or irssi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ audtool current-song New Order - The Rest Of - Age of Consent [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-14 Thread William Pitcock
Josselin Mouette debian.org> writes: > > Whether you like it or not, audacious is a playlist-based audio player > with support for many audio formats and funny plugins. This description > sounds much like XMMS, which is why it can be considered a good > replacement. As a user, I don't care about

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-14 Thread William Pitcock
Joseph Neal speakeasy.net> writes: > > There are a number of plugins available from the rarewares repository[1] and > perhaps other third party repositories which provide the only convient way > I'm aware of to access a number of media formats (bonk, wavepack, lossless > audio, shorten, vario

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-14 Thread William Pitcock
Lionel Elie Mamane mamane.lu> writes: > > Would a mention of the "different direction of audacious" in the > release notes of lenny, the next Debian release, fulfil your "PR > handling" request? Something like Simply not asserting that Audacious is a fullstop "XMMS clone" will fulfill my reques

Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-14 Thread William Pitcock
Don Armstrong debian.org> writes: > Like it or not, bug reports are a part of software development that we > all have to deal with. Suggesting announcements or text for such a > transition may help, but at the end of the day distributions are going > to switch as projects mature or decay. Complai

Re: Bug#431482: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian

2007-07-14 Thread William Pitcock
Steve Langasek debian.org> writes: > > I wonder why audacious and audacious-plugins should be separate packages at > all instead of building them into a single binary package, given that this > circular dependency relationship exists (even if not on paper currently). > Because we (audacious) r

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