So will test be grandfathered?

2004-10-30 Thread Thomas Hood
an we at least assume that "test" will be grandfathered, and consequently that "-a" and "-o" should be avoided? -- Thomas Hood

Re: So will test be grandfathered?

2004-10-30 Thread Thomas Hood
question was bug #267142 "debian-policy: Sections 10.4 and 6.1 are inconsistent (Posix doesn't say what you think it says)". Please follow up to debian-policy. -- Thomas Hood

Re: Introducing pmount in Debian / New plugdev group

2004-11-14 Thread Thomas Hood
nstead use a program > called 'pmount' (policy mount) that allows normal users to mount > removable devices without an /etc/fstab entries. All sounds good. Have you heard that mount's upstream is looking for someone to adopt mount (and the rest of util-linux)? Interested? -- Thomas Hood

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-12 Thread Thomas Hood
dit page" button on the > page. Inspired by A.S.'s comment I've just sorted the proposals into four groups, though not exactly the ones he defined. -- Thomas Hood

Re: removing in postrm rc*.d symlinks that I did not create

2004-12-17 Thread Thomas Hood
n purge too, so I suggest you simply override lintian and linda. [*] (or do the file-rc equivalent, which happens automatically if file-rc is installed because you use update-rc.d) -- Thomas Hood

Re: How to ensure packages generated from -source are installable?

2005-01-03 Thread Thomas Hood
orm of this question is how does one deal with > missing dependencies when using dpkg and not apt. One downloads the missing packages and dpkg --install's them. BTW have you tried module-assistant? -- Thomas Hood

Re: please post listing and status of NEW queue

2005-02-12 Thread Thomas Hood
illing to make use of such a feature, though. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: please post listing and status of NEW queue

2005-02-12 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:20:13 +0100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > Any input is welcome. It would be nice if the page indicated which of the binary packages is new. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: please post listing and status of NEW queue

2005-02-13 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 18:59 -0600, David Moreno Garza wrote: > On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 22:52 +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > > It would be nice if the page indicated which of the binary packages is new. > > The binary column indicates those created within the source package. > Every

Re: First line in /etc/hosts

2005-02-13 Thread Thomas Hood
chine's permanently connected network adapter, or, if it does not have one of those, "127.0.1.1". -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-06 Thread Thomas Hood
at needs to be fixed, though. Another option > would be to put the alsa modules in separate packages, just like pcmcia > modules. There already exist separate alsa modules packages. Currently we only build them for 2.4 kernels, though. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-08 Thread Thomas Hood
le Debian release. Actually, this isn't true for 2.6 kernels. By default, discover loads ALSA modules into 2.6 kernels. The alsa-base/alsa-utils duo still has its uses, though, even if you are running 2.6. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Switchconf: Orphaning or removing?

2005-03-09 Thread Thomas Hood
s nothing else in Debian that provides the same functionality. laptop-net also contains a configuration file switching mechanism. I believe that Chris Hanson (laptop-net's author) was once thinking of repackaging this separately from laptop-net. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-09 Thread Thomas Hood
alsa-base package. It would include files that would blacklist ALSA modules, just as alsa-base blacklists OSS modules. These packages would Conflict with each other and 2.6 kernel-image packages would Depend on their disjunction. An alternative is to drop ALSA modules from the 2.6 kernel-imag

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-09 Thread Thomas Hood
he gets the (currently nonexistent) "oss" package which blacklists ALSA modules. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-10 Thread Thomas Hood
ht place to put the blacklists because more than one of them can be installed at once. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-10 Thread Thomas Hood
eading posts on this topic. My webmain interface apparently doesn't support In-Reply-To headers. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Stateless linux in Debian

2005-03-11 Thread Thomas Hood
I am interested in this subject. http://panopticon.csustan.edu/thood/readonly-root.html -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-12 Thread Thomas Hood
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:00:15 +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > Here is another idea. We create a new binary package > "sound-system-chooser" which contains blacklists for both OSS and ALSA and > provides a debconf interface that the administrator can use to disable > either or bot

Re: Bug#272066: Patch?

2005-11-22 Thread Thomas Hood
directories and symbolic links to directories. Thus IIUC the latter eliminates the need for the former. I am cc:ing this to debian-devel in order to solicit opinions. Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not to the list. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How to use lsb init-functions

2005-11-22 Thread Thomas Hood
lure_msg "Foo failed." ; fi Is this what I should do, or is there another solution I am overlooking; or do we need more functions; or does the whole system need to be reworked? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Not delete symlinks to directories in /var/run/ ?

2005-11-22 Thread Thomas Hood
tories. "! -xtype d" in the absence of "-L" matches everything except directories and symbolic links to directories. Thus IIUC the latter eliminates the need for the former. I am cc:ing this to debian-devel in order to solicit opinions. Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not to t

ALSA packager needed

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Hood
The ALSA packaging team needs help. We really need someone with expertise in programming for the ALSA library. If you are able to help us, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troubl

Co-maintainers sought

2005-12-09 Thread Thomas Hood
I seek co-maintainers for: mwavem thinkpad, tpctl resolvconf -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ALSA packager needed

2005-12-17 Thread Thomas Hood
does involve some work. There is a new upstream release candidate out now (1.0.11rc1) and I would like to take the opportunity to go through the process with the new volunteer. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Cont

Please test new sysvinit, sysv-rc, initscripts

2005-12-17 Thread Thomas Hood
INIT_VERBOSE=yes kernel parameter. Is the boot more verbose? Any glitches in any of the messages? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-18 Thread Thomas Hood
ble by hiding it in /lib > alongside /lib/modules. The problem is that some people find /lib/run uglier than /run. ;) -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
ore than "-policy support" would be an > appropriate claim if Manoj had said it looked okay. Agreed. Fortunately, I didn't claim that. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
eryone agrees that /run is to be used only for those very few purposes for which /var/run cannot be used. If there are worries about abuse then I would suggest the addition of a sentence to Policy forbidding such abuse. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
ot occur until the filesystem underlying /run is mounted read-write and programs must not use /run before the cleaning has been completed; it would probably be easier to drop the cleanliness-at-boot guarantee and let programs clean out their own stale files. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Please test the new sysvinit

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
So, has anyone tested the new packages? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
'run' rather than 'lib'. Hence R should be /run. Briefly, if R is like /var/run except that it supports programs needed to boot the system and run commands on the root filesystem, then it should be another "run" directory, but at the top level. Here's another possible argument: Putting R in /lib spoils the otherwise read-only character of that directory. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
Anthony Towns wrote: > Developers have been known not to be completely familiar with policy, > but it's admins and upstream programmers that I'm particularly > thinking of. I don't see any problems arising from rampant /run use by _admins_. They are always free to do what they want with their syst

/run vs. /lib/run

2005-12-19 Thread Thomas Hood
Any other defenders of /lib/run? Of /run? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs. /lib/run

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas Hood
nowing that their programs face special storage problems is shifted onto the sysvinit maintainers and admins who have to ensure that writable space is shoved under /var/run by the time any of the H tries to write there. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs /var/run

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas Hood
Gabor Gombas wrote: > ... I'd like to have a check for /run (or /lib/run or whatever) > being empty at the end of the boot process The new mountvirtfs prints such warnings for all the "virtual" filesystems. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: /run vs /var/run (was: Please test new sysvinit)

2005-12-20 Thread Thomas Hood
> > Tmpfs memory can be swapped out, so is this even a hypothetical > > problem? > > Maybe it isn't on Linux. I wasn't aware tmpfs could be swapped out. > > That still leaves the question of just which features we want to require > from our non-Linux kernels for basic operation, I guess. Yes,

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-21 Thread Thomas Hood
litary package ownership has made some Debian packages into bastions of untended bugs. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-21 Thread Thomas Hood
stellar job that they need a babysitter is a bit... insulting. This is not a fair characterization of what the introduction of a two-maintainer rule would be doing. No one should be insulted by general rule changes designed to make Debian work better. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-21 Thread Thomas Hood
vel. That's less of a burden than that imposed by many another Debian rule. Fortunately for your position, it probably won't take arguments to kill this idea. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-21 Thread Thomas Hood
re feeling in a conspiracy-theorist mood then > I'd suggest that those who are promoting team maintainance are trying > to gain power while evading responsibility. Well, you do suggest it here. And what you suggest makes no sense, so let's not rule out the possibility that you are

Re: Thoughts on Debian quality, including automated testing

2005-12-22 Thread Thomas Hood
r things can be done to help individual maintainers fix more bugs and fix them better? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

New experimental sysvinit

2005-12-22 Thread Thomas Hood
never: DELAYLOGIN=no No-login mode always: rm -f /etc/nologin ; :> /etc/nologin Anyone see any problems with this scheme? Any better ideas? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

New experimental sysvinit

2005-12-22 Thread Thomas Hood
plete: DELAYLOGIN=yes No-login mode never: rm -f /var/lib/initscripts/nologin ; DELAYLOGIN=no No-login mode always: touch /var/lib/initscripts/nologin ; DELAYLOGIN=no Anyone see any problems with this scheme? Any better ideas? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: New experimental sysvinit

2005-12-23 Thread Thomas Hood
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > How well that works with /var in a separate partition? It should work fine because S55bootmisc.sh runs after S45mountnfs.sh. -- Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New experimental sysvinit

2005-12-23 Thread Thomas Hood
m trying to modify an existing feature (to make it compatible with a read-only root filesystem) without altering its behavior any more than necessary. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New experimental sysvinit

2005-12-27 Thread Thomas Hood
> A new version of sysvinit is being prepared for release to experimental. OK, sysvinit 2.86.ds1-8 is now in incoming. TIA for testing it. ;) -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Package dependencies due to documentation relationships?

2005-12-30 Thread Thomas Hood
recommendations about how documentation relationships should be reflected in package dependencies? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-03 Thread Thomas Hood
here should be room for different kinds of projects, including exclusive hobby clubs. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-03 Thread Thomas Hood
mprehensive listing of all the Debian _maintainers_ accompanied with a list of packages they maintain", instead of "...developers..." (which would also be more accurate since non-DD maintainers are already listed). And so on. Reword with the principle in mind that there are many contributors to Debian who are not Debian Developers®. -- Thomas Hood

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-04 Thread Thomas Hood
e current NM process would regard those points as weaknesses in Debian's defenses, which should be closed rather than advertized. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-04 Thread Thomas Hood
e simultaneously. I'd call it the "obscure the point game", because the pairs of statements were meant to illustrate a difference in attitude, not a set of absolute contradictions. But I think you know that. Because you are really playing another game, which I'll dub &qu

Re: Fwd: Bug#344758: init.d script should create /var/run/dirmngr

2006-01-06 Thread Thomas Hood
Would it be useful if the initscript that clears /var/run also created a directory hierarchy under /var/run? (There are different ways of implementing thus, but we can talk about details if this feature is deemed worthwhile.) -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Fwd: Bug#344758: init.d script should create /var/run/dirmngr

2006-01-12 Thread Thomas Hood
ded. :) As pointed out by Peter Samuelson, this dir should be removed by the postrm on purge. I would advise not including /var/run/foo in the package since it is superfluous and its presence could hide a bug in your directory-creation code. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-13 Thread Thomas Hood
be suitable for Debian. I agree that it would be nice if Ubuntu developers tried to get their changes into sid. It is certainly not their responsibility to do so, but in my experience Ubuntu developers have been very cooperative when they have been approached. So I don't see a big problem. -- Th

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-13 Thread Thomas Hood
uld everyone be happy then? I doubt it. [0] Here: http://ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship?highlight=%28debian%29 there's a claim that "they send their bugfixes to the Debian developers responsible for that package in debian and record the patch URL in the debian bug system." -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-15 Thread Thomas Hood
your package. I have seen changes in some packages that looked gratuitious, but then I have been comforted by the thought that the perpetrators of gratuitous changes are the ones who have to pay the price for it, because they have to carry such changes forward. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: New experimental sysvinit

2006-01-15 Thread Thomas Hood
base in regarding this to be a candidate for release to unstable. Again, TIA for testing it. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-18 Thread Thomas Hood
re that python-minimal be Essential: yes in Debian. In any case I am hoping to see python-minimal included in Debian. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: udev naming problems for eth*

2006-01-18 Thread Thomas Hood
looks at its properties, and... * Kernel creates eth1 * ...tries to rename it to 'eth1', but that name is taken -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-18 Thread Thomas Hood
> In any case I am hoping to see python-minimal included in Debian. I now see that it is already in sid. :) $ apt-cache madison python-minimal python-minimal |2.3.5-5 | http://ftp.nl.debian.org sid/main Packages -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subj

Re: udev naming problems for eth*

2006-01-18 Thread Thomas Hood
me # Rename it to the temporary name. # Then try several times to rename it to new name Now "trying several times", etc., may work, but it's a kludge. There are sound ways of resolving contention for a shared resource. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Thomas Hood
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=debian-devel&m=113768382100129&w=2 -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-20 Thread Thomas Hood
icated back directly to the Debian > developers responsible for that package in Debian and record the patch > URL in the debian bug system. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-23 Thread Thomas Hood
imal. Thus if upstream's concern is that users not have a stripped down python, then Debian provides a stripped down "python-minimal" instead. -- Thomas Hood

GPL version option

2006-01-24 Thread Thomas Hood
My guess is that there may be other packages out there that need to be reviewed with respect to the granting or non-granting of the GPL version option. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /run vs. /lib/run

2006-01-25 Thread Thomas Hood
x27;t forget to set ownership and permissions. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: conffile purging and maintainer scripts

2006-03-10 Thread Thomas Hood
l have to manually remove conffiles in their maintainer scripts > until at least etch+1 by my reckoning. Is this correct? Again, postrms should not remove files that are currently conffiles. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Thomas Hood
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ Thanks, that is very useful. I see that Ubuntu has done a lot of work to make initscripts send output through lsb printing functions. Are there any plans for Debian to adopt these changes? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: If Debian's too radical for you... [was: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels]

2005-03-24 Thread Thomas Hood
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:50:16 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > Is it as easy to participate with Ubuntu as it is with Debian? In some respects it is easier. For one thing you can become a maintainer there without going through an NM ordeal. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Should Debian use lsb init-functions?

2005-03-26 Thread Thomas Hood
available for use by other, non-LSB packages. >* Update README.Debian. Should Debian initscripts use lsb init-functions? It would probably be best if this were decided at the project level. -- Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Who uses libasound2-plugins?

2005-03-26 Thread Thomas Hood
Does anyone use the libasound2-plugins package? If so, how? -- Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: init.d script dependencies for etch?

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Hood
scripts at once > and letting each call its dependencies. This would be very hard to > implement efficiently. I missed the beginning of this conversation. I hope it has been said that the first thing we should do is investigate the several dependency-base init systems that are already out there. (T

Re: How to handle unreproducible RC bugs when the submitter is MIA?

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Hood
t with "grave". That is, if the package isn't unusable by everyone (if the bug only affects some users) then the bug is not grave. If the bug is unreproducible then it can't be the case that the package is unusable to everyone. So I'd say that a downgrade is justified.

Re: How to handle unreproducible RC bugs when the submitter is MIA?

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Hood
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 22:22 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > (bugs in maintainer scripts are a policy violation) I don't recall policy saying that maintainer scripts "must" be entirely bug free. Obviously they _should_ be bug free, but bugs in maintainer scripts aren't alwa

Re: init.d script dependencies for etch?

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Hood
g01078.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/06/msg01445.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/11/msg01695.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/09/msg01359.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/01/msg01898.html -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: init.d script dependencies for etch?

2005-04-06 Thread Thomas Hood
Apparently Gentoo is using simpleinit. Anyone know what the other distros are using? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: All GPL'ed programs have to go to non-free

2005-04-16 Thread Thomas Hood
s to have access to an archive that wholly conforms to the DFSG, robustly interpreted. Another goal is to encourage authors to license works compatible with the DFSG, robustly interpreted. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Should Debian use lsb init-functions?

2005-05-03 Thread Thomas Hood
ld be better if we simply made rc capture initscripts' standard output (and exit status) and formatted it in such a way that bootup messages were prettier. -- Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: packages missing from sarge

2005-05-14 Thread Thomas Hood
tinue to participate in the Debian project despite its dysfunctional organisation; 2. push for changes to the organisation; 3. participate in another project instead. (There are other possibilities, of course.) -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: dhcp-client package in sarge

2005-06-03 Thread Thomas Hood
uldn't be enough time to adjust to it before the release. Then the release was delayed for a couple of years; meanwhile the maintainers of dhcp and dhcp3 have been busy with other things. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe&qu

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-07 Thread Thomas Hood
ths versus eighteen months. I hope that the DPL will get involved in this debate and steer it toward a firm decision. To begin with we can all go back and review: http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?ReleaseProposals -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-07 Thread Thomas Hood
and bring > interfaces up and down. http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/ -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#313369: RFH: mwavem -- Mwave/ACP modem support software

2005-06-13 Thread Thomas Hood
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the mwavem package. I own a ThinkPad 600 with an Mwave modem inside and I use this to test the mwavem packages that I prepare. However, I do not use the machine on a daily basis. If possible I would like help from someone who

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies

2005-07-06 Thread Thomas Hood
her in complex ways and the scripts and data have been split off into a separate Arch: all package. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: should etch be Debian 4.0 ?

2005-07-08 Thread Thomas Hood
Debian releases as "minor" ones. Every release is major. If Debian simply _must_ have decimal points in its release numbers then I'd suggest replacing the 'r' in update version numbers with '.'. Thus 9.1 would be the number of the first etch update. -- Thomas

Re: should etch be Debian 4.0 ?

2005-07-10 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:57:54 -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > I suggested "Debian IV" Are release numbers really needed? Why not do away with them altogether? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: should etch be Debian 4.0 ?

2005-07-10 Thread Thomas Hood
Nigel Jones wrote: On 10/07/05, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are release numbers really needed? Why not do away with them altogether? you mean, just stick with code names? That wouldn't exactly work, Debian's apt/dpkg basicly relies on release numbers, how else c

Re: should etch be Debian 4.0 ?

2005-07-10 Thread Thomas Hood
. Among numbers, integers describe this order most clearly. :) -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#317892: ITP: bum -- tool to manage boot scripts

2005-07-12 Thread Thomas Hood
item: Grep the postinst files in order to obtain the "factory default" sequence numbers and implement a "restore factory default sequence numbers" feature. See my last comment in #183460. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-20 Thread Thomas Hood
y more projects like Foo in the future. Not within Debian, anyway. Purely hypothetical case, but it could happen. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dicussion about patches ... ignoring patches make motivation to provide them fall

2006-03-21 Thread Thomas Hood
rded as elementary politeness in some spheres, but Debian's social norms are not the same as those of everyday life. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-03-29 Thread Thomas Hood
of Debian as a problem. However, you always have the option of participating in some other project, such as Ubuntu, which does recognize contributions other than package maintenance.) -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Emphasize teams, not packages

2006-03-31 Thread Thomas Hood
2004-07-12 > FD checks completeness of report Approved on 2006-02-21 by Marc > Brockschmidt (he) > DAM Approval Approved on 2006-03-20 by Joerg Jaspert > (joerg) -- Thomas Hood

Interim maintainer needed for thinkpad and tpctl

2006-05-02 Thread Thomas Hood
: critical. Therefore I am seeking an interim maintainer of thinkpad and tpctl, preferably someone who would like to carry on as co-maintainer with Martin. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: not starting packages at boot

2005-01-23 Thread Thomas Hood
needing some devious guerilla techniques to thwart the > packages starting. apt-get install sysv-rc-conf. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: not starting packages at boot

2005-01-23 Thread Thomas Hood
7379. This feature is also needed so that maintainer scripts can change runlevel configuration iff they haven't been changed by the user. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Archive maintainers: Please relocate tpctl package

2000-09-05 Thread Thomas Hood
The tpctl packages still haven't been relocated. Is there some holdup? Thomas On Mon, 28 Aug, 2000 at 21:49:04 +0100, Adrian Bridgett wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 12:04:32 +1200 (+), Michael Beattie wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 04:21:21PM -0400, Thomas Hood w

Re: Archive maintainers: Please relocate tpctl package

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas Hood
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:05:35PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: > > The tpctl packages still haven't been relocated. Is there > > some holdup? Michael Beattie wrote: > Time. sorry, I'll take a look this afternoon. I see you've done it! Thanks. Thomas Hood --

Update re: read-only root filesystem

2003-06-21 Thread Thomas Hood
maintainers who have been supporting this effort. -- Thomas Hood

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