Re: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 "Squeeze" release goals

2009-08-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
up the good work! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...| ..: |...

Re: piuparts-MBF: not using invoke-rc.d

2009-08-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
er, the mail notification of piuparts error is _not_ integrated with the PTS. To that end I would prefer not having a new keyword, the default one seems reasonable to me, as it is opt-in anyhow and the frequency is (I guess) rather low. Cheers. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DeveloperNews -- Ste

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
which is running for regular votes injected in a VCS. AFAICT, the working copy on master differs from the one in git.d.o which I've cloned from. This seems to make a bit harder to contribute code back. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ut the hurried freeze. So, right now, I don't see the point of having it before they actually publish their decision. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un g

Re: What’ s the use for Standards-Version?

2009-08-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nts to be implemented, the first itch to scratch is this. While probably boring, it doesn't seem hard to turn upgrade-checklist in a well-structure document. ... volunteers? :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ally apply changes retrieve manually from the Git repo? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tut

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-08-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
have yet a mechanism to update automagically the index -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sem

Re: New NM Front-desk Member

2009-08-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
for their sometime thankless work. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je t

Re: Python2.6 in unstable?

2009-09-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
us? It would also provide a clear reference material for people that might wonder about the same in the (near) future. TIA, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
olunteering myself as a co-maintainer of the devref. Lucas, out of curiosity, have you tried to simple sent out an announcement for co-maintainers to try continuing the "old style" maintenance? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
olicy venue is OK for everybody, would it be enough for you to have commits notified on that list? If, on the contrary, you want an acceptance process which involves a lot of people, then I believe we are not in the condition to attack that, given the little manpower on both devref and polic

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
, humbly as user, I'm opposed) I don't think the process should become completely analogous to policy. Policy is driven by widespread adoption in thousands of packages, both (B) and (C) can need to be written down somewhere before they are accepted (exactly because you want to push the adoption)

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
; clause allowing to switch to GPL2+? > > The french CeCILL license has such a clause (see 5.3.4 in > http://www.cecill.info/licences/Licence_CeCILL_V2-en.txt). Why are we discussing this, given that from early feedback it was more or less clear that we do not want to go the wiki wa

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
f "bts subscribe") by default. If they want, they are free to opt unsubscribing. We currently even have procmail recipe to automatically subscribe upon BTS ack receipt, that should be the default and the recipes reverted to unsubscribe by default who doesn't want subscription. Che

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ssipated my wrong assumptions. Many thanks and keep up the good work. Cheers. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/09/msg00458.html -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 03:16:59PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 17:23 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > Conceptually, what "we" want is trivial: we want submitter to be > > subscribed (in the sense of "bts subscribe") by default. If

Re: DEP-5: query about possible inheritence of License:

2009-09-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ge, that still need to be reused. Can we in those cases use, e.g., "other1", "other2", etc., or possibly even more telling names? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://u

Re: DEP-5: query about possible inheritence of License:

2009-09-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
an attempt of that, attempt that can surely be improved :-) The diff is against current svn HEAD of dep5.mdwn. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo

Re: [DEP-5] Short license names (was: Re: DEP-5: query about possible inheritence of License:)

2009-09-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
roperty that all atomic tokens denote a single license. If you go that way, the DEP text should then be changed to clarify that all license keywords decorated by a postfix "-like" will need a mandatory "License:" block (probably you can reuse the mention that was there for &quo

Re: Quick analysis of the Python dist-packages transition

2009-09-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e bugs, please usertag it (e.g. user debian-pyt...@l.d.o, tag python2.6-transition) so that we can track more easily the progress. Thanks! -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un

Re: Quick analysis of the Python dist-packages transition

2009-09-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
y is only "important"? Shouldn't we aim at uploading python 2.6 to unstable really soon now? In that respect, if I understand the problems you mentioned in the first post correctly, those bugs should be better made RC. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ P

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e. Only with such properties I'd be confident of integrating a clean up actions which we can recommend doing, e.g., in release notes. Thoughts? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://ups

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 07:22:27PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > Recognizing transitional packages is only a small part of the problem. Agreed. As discussed in my post, that's the part of the problem which I was trying to address. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 06:11:13PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > I always thought dummy transitional packages were supposed to be in > section oldlibs anyway. According to the archive section description, that section is just for transition *libraries* (as the name hints). -- S

Re: Is it time to remove sun-java6?

2009-10-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
are to free software, even if it is the same). Do we currently have a smooth migration path from the old set of packages to the new set in place for Lenny to Squeeze migrations? Before that is in place, I'd consider premature removing sun-java*. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in

Re: Is it time to remove sun-java6?

2009-10-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
#533619. I'm personally able to reproduce both of them (and, BTW, I'm also quite surprised by the "normal" severity of those bug reports). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http:

Re: Is it time to remove sun-java6?

2009-10-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
free software, I think we should have an automatic upgrade path from sun-java6-plugin to icedtea. That upgrade path should automatically bring icedtea to our Lenny users when they upgrade to Squeeze. Also, this change warrants a line in the release notes, IMHO. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiro

Re: Is it time to remove sun-java6?

2009-10-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
cj, pretty please as the second alternative :-). If there is an active maintainer of sun-java6 (which I doubt, from your report) that should be done in agreement with her, otherwise just take over the binary and be done with that. Please also submit the change notice to the forthcoming release notes.

Re: Is it time to remove sun-java6?

2009-10-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
take on having openjdk providing the needed transition binaries to have users move away from sun-java upon upgrades? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uo

Re: Is it time to remove sun-java6?

2009-10-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
org/popcon.php?package=openjdk-6 -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...

Re: Is it time to remove sun-java6?

2009-10-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
| unstable | amd64 Your solution doesn't appear to be a long term one :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'

Re: Bug#550817: ITP: gitolite -- standalone, souped-up version of gitosis

2009-10-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
erence to it as something like "similar to gitosis". Thanks for your packaging work! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. E

Re: Bug#550860: ITP: gnaughty -- downloader for adult content

2009-10-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
more open world! Also, I'd like to argue on the freeness of Neil's bank account access codes. Either he surrenders them, or I threaten to upload an NMU of *him* to non-free. And good luck with auto-building. SCNR -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc

Re: packages that use deprecated SQL escape functions - dd-list

2009-10-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
rman ampache Jörg Sommer xindy Radu Spineanu pvpgn Uwe Steinmann netmrg Moodle Packaging Team moodle Fabio Tranchitella psycopg2 Andreas Tscharner cvsnt Torsten Werner fpc (U) Michal Čihař gammu rpm2html Christoph Berg libyada -- Stefano Zacchiroli -

Re: get-orig-source: possible MBF

2009-10-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
g debcheckout and providing vcs informations in > debian/control. This is a different topic, IMHO not related with this MBF proposal. If you want to pursue this, you should do that on -policy. As long as the policy is written as it is now, MBF meant to enforce the current text have their own merits

Re: piuparts-MBF: owned and unowned files after purge

2009-10-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
tant" and if we want, we can later on bump their severity (or vice versa of course). As usual, thanks for your amazing piuparts work! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/

Re: Submitting bugs for manpage improvements

2009-10-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
excuse for finding ways to prevent those people to use the tool, make it harder to find, etc. Pointless bug will be closed and/or set +wontfix as they are today. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>

Re: git-buildpackage could use get-orig-source, uscan ?

2009-10-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
toring in VCS stuff with potential redistribution problem, if that is the reason for the mangling. So, as I said, it is debatable and gbp shuold probably support both options. Can you please file a bug against gbp? TIA, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ.

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-10-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
meetings/200910/ -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...| ..: | J

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-10-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
non overrodable errors in dak at all, or at least I would like to have a more liberal way of maintaining such list (e.g. a list maintained in the QA VCS or similar). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org

Re: Submitting bugs for manpage improvements

2009-10-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
cripts ... and I was just going to need it to submit a manpage fix :-), so I thought to ping here to avoid loosing track of where to ship these very useful software bits. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debia

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-10-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
" vs "fatal errors". It is not particularly exciting as a choice, but I believe it would be better than warning/error. Thanks in advance, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http:

Re: Submitting bugs for manpage improvements

2009-10-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
patch to an already existing bug report? That would be a pretty nice feature to have. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| .

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
e! BTW, in spite of what the messages were saying, I was more fearing about the proposed terminology "settling down" in our lingo. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.c

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ch change, it would be more than reasonable for them to ask for a specific patch implementing that technically. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 04:13:48PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 03:31:12PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > So, I revamp a proposal I made in a corner of this thread: > > Let the QA team decide upon the non overridable lintian errors. > > My

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t archive admins stop in participating is most likely related to their ongoing meeting, I'm confident they'll come back to some of the raised criticisms in the next few days; anyhow, the fact that they stop participating is not an argument for stop discussing among us "els

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Still, one might argue that this is too much nitpicking for such cases, and that we should leave with the inability to NMU them unless the dak-blacklisted bug is fixed too. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debia

dir-or-file-in-var-www on single-HTML file web "apps" or the like

2009-11-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ccessing it as http://localhost/package/. Would that be appropriate? Also, can we do anything better---still remaining FHS-compatible---than documenting that in a NEWS.Debian entry to ease transition to the new URL? TIA, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ U

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
es more invasives changes, e.g. dir-or-file-in-var-www, since fixing that usually implies changing the interface of the user with the package (i.e. its URL) -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http

Re: dir-or-file-in-var-www on single-HTML file web "apps" or the like

2009-11-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
? Do you have a list of them and which file ship? Do you have some kind of intermediate level where the maintainer can specify the Alias only once and have it "compiled" to all web server configurations? TIA, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. P

Re: dir-or-file-in-var-www on single-HTML file web "apps" or the like

2009-11-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
es according to the _present_ rules and available tools. BTW, the documented Neil pointed us to is already a very good achievement of webapps-common! thanks to everybody who has contributed. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.

Re: dir-or-file-in-var-www on single-HTML file web "apps" or the like

2009-11-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
root or something along those lines to serve as a > canonical document root if the user does not specify otherwise. Oh yes, that would be awesome, but I doubt it would be anywhere near to be obtainable in Squeeze time. Maybe you can store this somewhere in a PostSqueeze discussion page? Cheers. --

common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
olicy If it were me to try to achieve this, I would go for a DEP to keep track of consensus, ... but no, I'm not willing to drive this, at least not now :-) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<&

Re: common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Any other idea? Many thanks for sharpening the analysis, Jan. Cheers. PS please keep the -webapps Cc:, I believe it is truly relevant to this thread -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/

Bug#555197: ITP: fieldslib -- OCaml syntax extension that enables folding over record fields

2009-11-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli * Package name: fieldslib Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Jane Street Holding, LLC * URL : http://ocaml.janestreet.com/?q=node/13 * License : LGPL (+ usual OCaml linking exception) Programming Lang

Re: common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
osing it on the distributi...@freedesktop list. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie s

Re: Possible MBF wrt common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
haven't heard significant voices against, am I wrong? I'd personally proceed as follow: write a draft document (even a very brief one!) which summarizes the proposal so that people do not need to dig into the thread to follow the evolution. Once we have it, re-post it to the relevant lists

Re: Possible MBF wrt common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
plications are deployed on the filesystem. I found such a goal worthwhile by itself and orthogonal to the other concern you raise. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro

Re: Possible MBF wrt common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ich one we can't. Now that I think of it, probably a per-package data dir would help, but that can be a tad more tricky due to single-instance of multiple-instance nature of the webapp in question ... > Of course, if the use of /usr/share/www/ is optional, > everybody wins. It is fo

Re: Iceweasel and Firefox compatibility

2009-11-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
choice would benefit quite a lot of our users. John, have you opened a bug report to keep track of this? (or maybe you already have an UA string satisfying Mike desiderata :-)) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debi

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-11-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
that the extreme trade-off of making source upload the default (which seems to be what you are arguing for) would be too risky in term of degraded package quality. Look for the "FTBFS" string in the current RC bug list, do you think the number of occurrences we have now would decrease impl

Re: common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
lready have a de facto default vendor dir rooted at /doc/, why should this be a special case? Implementing the advanced proposal would enable generalizing that unfortunate ad-hoc case. Of course, thanks to all the participants for their feedback! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Scienc

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
//wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/FTBFS (linked from all bug reports reported by massive rebuild by Lucas) The page is maintained in a collaborative manner: if you find a common patter, please add it there. The page might also need some re-organization. Any contribution is welcome. Cheers. --

Re: Some questions on format "3.0 (quilt)" multi-origin

2009-11-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
download several tarballs at once, but is rather part of the workflow we now need to manage multi-tarballs packages (e.g. I want to be notified when a single tarball of a whole got a new upstream release; currently this is not doable with available tools). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o

nexuiz-data does not fit on a single CD

2009-11-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
oversial since we have other ways of distributing packages; feel free to downgrade, better if after discussion with the release team (even better by reducing the size ;-)) Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org}

Re: nexuiz-data does not fit on a single CD

2009-11-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
severity 557218 important thanks On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:59:07AM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 14:00 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > the Debian CD team (in the person of Steve McIntyre) has noted the > > enormous size of nexuiz-data, which me

Re: common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
mpact on this. If you are interested in working on this, we can try drafting something together. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..|

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
d before, I didn't find it with a quick in the thread) If for some architectural reasons this is hard / not worth to fix, I guess we can alternatively add a corresponding check to dput, which refuses to upload when it finds non-overridden fatal lintian errors (unless --forced or something).

Re: Lintian based autorejects

2009-11-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ng for its presence with some timestamp care). Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux p

Bug#558090: ITP: camljava -- interface between OCaml and Java via Caml/C interface and JNI

2009-11-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli * Package name: camljava Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Xavier Leroy * URL : http://pauillac.inria.fr/~xleroy/software.html#camljava * License : LGPL Programming Lang: OCaml, C, Java Description

Re: Debian as open project

2009-12-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
n to you via some private media (I'm one of them). That's not annoying, it's just a pity. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c&#x

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
the distinction between meta-models (that live in the Perl lib somehow) and models that live in the package. On the same line, it is not clear to me whether the maintainer can programmatically define updates other than "from model m_1 go to m_2". Many thanks for your stubborn work

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
which use that helper. (But again, I'm of the opinion that it should not ask any question in the first place; see my former message.) Let's see wait for the proposer to clarify these doubts :-) -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t;semantic" merge between changes performed with some sysadm tool and maintainer changes. Whether this merge is dumb or programmable by the maintainer is another question I've already raised in this thread. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
it in some way. That's basically the different between "here is the model you should arrive to" (which I understand is supported) and "here is a recipe/program to obtain the model you should arrive to". Oh, well, I should probably just study Config::Model! Cheers. -- Stefano

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ace changes in most configuration files I've under /etc. I believe most of your other comments in this follow-up were based on the assumption that this stuff is useful only in case of bug, which I don't believe it is the case. Ping me if I missed some comment based on different assum

Re: doc-base section for server software

2009-12-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
t also allows for some doc-base-specific refinements (which is good, given that the purpose is slightly different). IME, bugging the doc-base maintainer with well-motivated requests for specific sections works quite well, have you tried that? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer S

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
stion was whether I can only migrate from m_i to m_{i+1} or also pipe in between some custom programmed logics. TIA. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uo

Re: Bug#559761: ITP: release -- provides information about the current releases

2009-12-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
name the scripts, too? I don't know the current name, but having the scripts more or less in sync with the package name minimizes user surprises and also reduces the likelihood of file conflicts with other packages. My 0.02€, Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
, the old model and the new model) in the same scripts to migrate from one to the other in some ad-hoc way?. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c&#x

Re: ITP: cobertura -- tool that calculates the percentage of code accessed by tests

2009-12-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...| ..: | Je dis tu

Re: Ubuntu packages for Debian

2009-12-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ttle with some reasonable guidelines, you might want to write them somewhere there (and advertise them a bit). Cheers. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/Utnubu -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 z...@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://

Re: Rebirth of Status of Maintainer's packages and bugs and more

2007-01-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nterface: http://people.debian.org/~aba/bts2ldap/ Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bononia.it/zack/ (15:56:48) Zack: e la demo dema ?/\All one has to do is hit the (15:57:15) Ba

Bug#409627: ITP: vim-addon-manager -- command line manager of Vim addons

2007-02-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: vim-addon-manager Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-vim/trunk/packages/vim-addon-manag

Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts

2007-02-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
in the past years :-) Note that with being informed of course I don't mean following thoroughly a significant amount of mailing list, but the bare minimum of -vote archives just before voting is not requiring that much. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student

Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts

2007-02-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
In other words I'm totally in favour of a more fine grained classification of Debian contributors on the lines of what has been discussed at DebConf6 (IIRC during a BOF/talk by Myon): - sporadic contributors (no vote right/duty, no upload permission) - maintainer (no vote right/duty, upl

xs-vcs-browser and friends

2007-02-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
i-bin/bugreport.cgi/developers_reference-vcs_field.patch?bug=391023;msg=75;att=1 -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bononia.it/zack/ (15:56:48) Zack: e la demo dema ?/\All one has to do is hit the (15:

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
nyone" or "mail from the maintainer(s)". I have no clue about the code of the web interface of the bts, but I can try to mock-up a sorting criterion to be integrated in the "bts" devscript. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna,

Re: Bug#412704: ITP: ocaml-ao -- OCaml bindings for libao

2007-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
ry. Please Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for ITP of OCaml-related packages and ensure your package conforms to the OCaml packaging policy [1] before uploading or asking for sponsorship. Cheers. [1] http://pkg-ocaml-maint.alioth.debian.org/ocaml_packaging_policy.html/ -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Sci

Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
particularly wise to chain three help requests in a row after the first one, but that's totally. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bononia.it/zack/ (15:56:48) Zack: e la demo dema ?

Re: 0-day bug forwarding and bug patching on ALL bugs

2007-02-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:20:57AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Of course that need to be done with a grain of salt, and I personally > found not particularly wise to chain three help requests in a row after > the first one, but that&

Re: Bug#412919: ITP: predictive -- Text completion package for Emacs

2007-03-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
, maybe in some programmable way (and would be like Vim's omnicompletion feature) or it "just" complete in a single way using the word in the current buffer (as plain Vim's autocompletion) and then it would be better do describe it as "autocompletion". Cheers. [1

Re: xs-vcs-browser and friends

2007-03-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
since I last used CVS, so the following example is artificial but should work for the "debian-doc" project on cvs.debian.org: Xs-Vcs-Cvs: pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-doc Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTE

Re: xs-vcs-browser and friends

2007-03-05 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
are with an additional field. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bononia.it/zack/ (15:56:48) Zack: e la demo dema ?/\All one has to do is hit the (15:57:15) Bac: no, la demo scema

Re: Google Summer of Code 2007 - mentors and project ideas wanted

2007-03-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
x27;s the time. Cheers. [3] http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2007 [4] http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2007/ProposalTemplate -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EMAIL PROTECTED],debian.org,bononia.it} -%- http://www.bononia.it/zack/ (15:56:48) Zack: e l

Bug#414889: ITP: epsilon -- set of Python utility modules commonly used by all Divmod project

2007-03-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: epsilon Version : 0.5.0 Upstream Author : Divmod Inc. * URL : http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/DivmodEpsilon * License : MIT License Programming Lang:

Bug#414892: ITP: python-axiom -- a Python object database

2007-03-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-axiom Version : 0.5.0 Upstream Author : Divmod Inc. * URL : http://www.divmod.org/trac/wiki/DivmodAxiom * License : MIT License Programming Lang:

Bug#414988: ITP: twistedsnmp -- SNMP protocol implementation for Python Twisted framework

2007-03-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: twistedsnmp Version : 0.3.13 Upstream Author : Michael C. Fletcher, Patrick K. O'Brien * URL : http://twistedsnmp.sourceforge.net/ * License :

Re: Bug#414966: ITP: svnmerge -- A merge helper tool for Subversion

2007-03-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
kage. At first glance, stuff in subversion-tools is contributed stuff to the subversion upstream. Can't these 3 scripts be contributed upstream as well and hence distributed directly in subversion-tools? Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -*- Computer Science PhD student @ Uny Bologna, Italy [EM

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