Matthias Urlichs, le Tue 09 Sep 2014 13:49:54 +0200, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault:
> > > So please fill a bug for every breakage you will encounter, so it
> > > can be either fixed or documented.
> >
> > There will be dozens of them then. Will they really be fixed
Samuel Thibault, le Tue 09 Sep 2014 14:11:28 +0200, a écrit :
> I have made a quick poll among various people here and there, there is
> no real consensus, either on switching to systemd by default or keeping
> with sysvinit by default. So it seems to me a question during upgrade is
Ondřej Surý, le Tue 09 Sep 2014 13:10:48 +0200, a écrit :
> > And I'm saying that I don't think this is an isolated case,
>
> And I'm saying that all we have is anecdotal evidence
Our uni lab has switched to systemd, 20% of the machines do not boot.
The admin is currently looking at what the diff
Thomas Goirand, le Mon 15 Sep 2014 16:53:25 +0800, a écrit :
> I suppose (according to what's above) that using
> /usr/lib/sse4.2/x86_64-linux-gnu isn't supported (yet), right?
I guess it shouldn't be hard to add the support, once the need is
expressed :)
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Thomas Goirand, le Mon 15 Sep 2014 20:45:27 +0800, a écrit :
> On 09/15/2014 05:17 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Thomas Goirand, le Mon 15 Sep 2014 16:53:25 +0800, a écrit :
> >> I suppose (according to what's above) that using
> >> /usr/lib/sse4.2/x86_64-linux-
Ian Jackson, le Thu 25 Sep 2014 16:29:05 +0100, a écrit :
> I have prepared bash packages which do not honour any shell functions
> they find in the environment. IMO that is a crazy feature, which
> ought to be disabled. (I'm running this on chiark now and nothing has
> visibly broken yet.)
Yes.
Matthias Urlichs, le Thu 25 Sep 2014 21:17:58 +0200, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault:
> > Sounds crazy to me.
> >
> Definitely. This is now out in the wild; exploits which simply replace
> echo or cat-without-/bin are going to happen. :-/
That's not so easy to exploit. Yo
Nikolaus Rath, le Thu 25 Sep 2014 17:26:40 -0700, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault writes:
> > Matthias Urlichs, le Thu 25 Sep 2014 21:17:58 +0200, a écrit :
> >> Samuel Thibault:
> >> > Sounds crazy to me.
> >> >
> >> Definitely. This is now out i
Brian May, le Fri 26 Sep 2014 11:40:00 +1000, a écrit :
> On 26 September 2014 10:26, Nikolaus Rath <[1]nikol...@rath.org> wrote:
>
> Wasn't there some web server that used to put query script variables
> into the environment of the CGI script? Or am I confusing that with
> PHP's evil
Jeremy, le Mon 03 Nov 2014 09:03:25 -0500, a écrit :
> if only the kernel were replaced, the rest would still work as we al
> like it to. (This is evident with Debian GNU Hurd & kFreeBSD projects).
It's not so easy :)
> We all hear everyone say "The code is open for anyone to look for
> exploits
Ew.
I've always thought you have been providing Debian with very sensible
thoughts and guiding. Your wisdom will be missed. Wishing you the
best.
Samuel
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Kurt Roeckx, le Sat 07 Apr 2012 11:41:31 +0200, a écrit :
> > The reason bindnow is disabled by default is performance:
>
> I think I actually tested this on a slow system and had to come to
> the conclusion that this wasn't the case, or like 1% slower or
> something.
What did you test? I guess
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Steve McIntyre, le Fri 20 Apr 2012 21:33:09 +0100, a écrit :
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:32:49PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> >Package: wnpp
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> >
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> > Version :
Can you please calm down?
It's becoming more and more a pain to try to keep you cool.
Svante Signell, le Sat 21 Apr 2012 00:31:54 +0200, a écrit :
> In order to contribute more than being a porter (and patch submitter),
> I'm wondering how much effort/support is needed to become a DM, i.e.
> bein
And "wanting" to become a Debian maintainer is not enough. And shouting
it on debian-devel won't help becoming one, on the contrary.
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Roger Leigh, le Mon 23 Apr 2012 09:44:32 +0100, a écrit :
> While it's great that Hurd can support all of these esoteric
> translators, in terms of making Hurd a viable *Debian* port,
> we really only need a few specific ones:
>
> - tmpfs
> - procfs
> - ext?fs
They are already there.
> - sysfs
Roger Leigh, le Mon 23 Apr 2012 10:43:00 +0100, a écrit :
> > They are already there.
>
> OK. I was informed otherwise when I was working on all the
> tmpfs-related code.
Things evolve, we do spend time on useful features :) Tmpfs has recently
been fixed.
> Does Hurd support ext3/4 yet?
No.
>
Andrew Shadura, le Mon 23 Apr 2012 13:37:02 +0200, a écrit :
> > On the other hand, I've spent the whole week-end fixing some bits in
> > glibc/parted/grub, which we *DO* need for a release.
>
> By the way, how about helping a bit with making ifupdown work properly
> (and, since recently, build, o
Roger Leigh, le Mon 23 Apr 2012 15:55:29 +0100, a écrit :
> For mtab, it's probably not even strictly necessary for this to be in
> /proc/mounts. It could be a translator on /etc/mtab directly? (If
> a translator can be a single file?)
A translator can be a single file.
But since many scripts w
Simon McVittie, le Mon 23 Apr 2012 17:04:50 +0100, a écrit :
> On 23/04/12 10:20, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > [Hurd has] an incomplete procfs already. It doesn't have /proc/mounts,
> > because it's not a trivial thing to implement: since mounts are
> > distributed,
Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit :
> The versions they had by then had an epoch. Supposedly, to make the new
> versions greater than these, I have to add an epoch. But do I really
> need to care about making the new versions greater than these packages
> last seen 4 years ago
Hello,
Joey Hess, le Sun 13 May 2012 20:39:20 -0400, a écrit :
> Neil Williams wrote:
> > "supporting only the smaller/lighter desktop environments" is exactly
> > what comes out of accepting that the first two options just won't be
> > acceptable. Changing compression is only putting off the inev
Peter Samuelson, le Tue 15 May 2012 12:40:55 -0500, a écrit :
> > (http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en)
>
> While it is refreshing to see "cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX" instead of
> the usual dd nonsense (it seems there's an extremely widespread myth
> that you need to use dd
Svante Signell, le Thu 31 May 2012 22:22:21 +0200, a écrit :
> A Short question. Is it possible to ITP a new release of some software
> not being even considered by the DM, for whatever reason.
It's normally not a good thing to do. "ITP" is also not what you mean
here, BTW.
> Wishlist bugs are su
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Goswin von Brederlow, le Fri 22 Jun 2012 11:34:12 +0200, a écrit :
> And then there is also ia32-libs-gtk [2], which is not yet installable as
> multiarch:
>
> #677762 ia32-libs-gtk: Multiarch issues
> -
Hello,
Lars Wirzenius, le Thu 26 Jul 2012 10:31:24 +0100, a écrit :
> * The new release is requested by insistent Hurd porters,
I would just like to confirm that the Hurd porter team does *not*
back Svante's request for new releases. Even though we have already
explained him several times why in
Lars Wirzenius, le Thu 26 Jul 2012 13:46:40 +0100, a écrit :
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:28:34PM +0900, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Please consider that he is speaking on his own, do not take him as "the
> > Hurd porters". The Hurd porter team wants to avoid anything
Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 10 Sep 2012 00:07:46 +0200, a écrit :
> Features expected to be merged:
> - UEFI support (Steve). Before anyone asks, and as far as I can tell:
>it's not about supporting secure boot.
> - IPv6 support in d-i (Philipp).
> - Possibly more xz-related unblocks (Ansgar).
>
Vincent Danjean, le Wed 12 Sep 2012 22:47:38 +0200, a écrit :
> In short, I would like to describe environment variables that
> can modify the behavior of a library.
> How should I name the manpage ? libXX ? libXX.so ? libXX.so.1 ? XX ?
I'd say libXX.so, like we have ld.so.
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Svante Signell, le Tue 02 Jul 2013 22:24:40 +0200, a écrit :
> I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
> gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution!
I don't see why there should be such a need. By Debian's standards
GPLv2 is GFDL-compliant.
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Samuel Thibault, le Tue 02 Jul 2013 22:29:46 +0200, a écrit :
> Svante Signell, le Tue 02 Jul 2013 22:24:40 +0200, a écrit :
> > I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
> > gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution!
>
> I don't see
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz, le Wed 17 Jul 2013 10:58:49 +0200, a écrit :
> I am sorry, but in my eyes, people who claim that PulseAudio is useless
> simply don't realize that there can be sound setups which are a little
> more sophisticated than just a single sound card and configuring
> these can b
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz, le Wed 17 Jul 2013 11:13:37 +0200, a écrit :
> On 07/17/2013 11:09 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> >That these setups exist is completely fine. That the additional
> >PulseAudio layer is being imposed even on systems that have a single
> >sound card
Holger Levsen, le Wed 17 Jul 2013 12:04:24 +0200, a écrit :
> On Mittwoch, 17. Juli 2013, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> [PA]
> > It's getting pulled through various packages.
>
> same with bluetooth
>
> > > If you don't like it, uninstall it.
> > It becom
Ritesh Raj Sarraf, le Wed 17 Jul 2013 22:38:51 +0530, a écrit :
> I see a sudden surge of build failures against my latest upload of
> packages[1]. From the build logs, it looks like all warnings are treated
> as errors now.
>
> If that is the case, I would like to know how others are dealing with
Daniel Pocock, le Thu 18 Jul 2013 12:46:28 +0200, a écrit :
> To avoid causing delays for users who want the fixes in testing, I'm
> tempted to just change "Architecture: any" and cut out those other
> platforms.
I'd say there is no need for this. If *your* package is supposed to
work on all plat
Joey Hess, le Thu 29 Aug 2013 12:08:09 -0400, a écrit :
> I am disturbed by the repeated use of this disparaging "versionitis" term
> in this thread.
>
> Wanting to be able to rapidly iterate as we develop a very complicated
> distribution is not "verionitis".
The word is not about that usage, bu
Let's discuss this on debian-devel. Here is what I answered to bug
723358 about hwloc.
Samuel Thibault, le Tue 17 Sep 2013 13:01:32 +0200, a écrit :
> YunQiang Su, le Tue 17 Sep 2013 18:38:26 +0800, a écrit :
> > This package has one or more -L/usr/lib in its build system,
&g
YunQiang Su, le Tue 17 Sep 2013 19:06:54 +0800, a écrit :
> sorry for huge mistake bugs report.
>
> My program met some problem.
Please discuss here before starting any automated bug filling.
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them and submit your
program here with rationale before starting it.
Also, I'm really unconvinced -L/usr/lib does really bring any problem
anyway, see what I wrote:
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > which will make it ftbfs if there is libraries under /usr/lib,
&
Bill Allombert, le Tue 08 Oct 2013 23:44:26 +0200, a écrit :
> Is there other people still using gpm intensively (the console mouse selection
> system) ?
Not very intensively, but I do use it when I don't start X.
> GPM does not support 'clickpads' found in newer laptop (there is no button
> avai
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Hello,
Please keep debian-accessibility in Cc for accessibility matters,
otherwise concerned people won't be able to provide information :)
Neil Williams, le Thu 24 Oct 2013 18:08:56 +0100, a écrit :
> On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:31:52 +0200
> Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> > On 24/10/13 at 16:40 +0100,
Adam Borowski, le Sat 12 Nov 2011 23:08:08 +0100, a écrit :
> You need to increase the swap size by the amount you'd use for /tmp.
Well, the idea of such case is precisely to *not* use swap, but real
disks. Such software already know how to manage its memory and
disk-backed memory (thusly stored i
John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell, le Tue 22 Nov 2011 14:00:56 -0500, a
écrit :
> CMOV saves 1 clock + 1 dword.
Errr, and branch misprediction?
Samuel
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John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell, le Tue 22 Nov 2011 16:19:03 -0500, a
écrit :
> Josselin Mouette is apparently easily amused.
>
> He harasses me every time I use debian-devel mailing list, apparently
> automaticall (which is illegal in my country - though for now it's ok).
>
>
> Josselin M
Svante Signell, le Thu 24 Nov 2011 22:31:25 +0100, a écrit :
> > If you want to join, create an account on alioth and request to join the
> > group.
>
> Thank you for your reply. How can I obtain an alioth account? Are these
> only available for DMs, or for wannabes too?
See alioth.debian.org: an
Svante Signell, le Thu 24 Nov 2011 23:27:00 +0100, a écrit :
> On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 22:55 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Svante Signell, le Thu 24 Nov 2011 22:31:25 +0100, a écrit :
> > > > If you want to join, create an account on alioth and request to j
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Lars Wirzenius, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 09:12:58 +, a écrit :
> real user system max RSS elapsed cmd
> (s) (s) (s)(KiB) (s)
> 3.2 2.4 5.862784 5.8 hardlink --dry-run files > /dev/null
>
Lars Wirzenius, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 10:45:20 +, a écrit :
> > > Personally, I would be wary of using checksums for file comparisons,
> > > since comparing files byte-by-byte isn't slow (you only need to
> > > do it to files that are identical in size, and you need to read
> > > all the files any
Lars Wirzenius, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 10:45:20 +, a écrit :
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:30:20AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Lars Wirzenius, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 09:12:58 +, a écrit :
> > > real user system max RSS elapsed cmd
> &
Samuel Thibault, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 12:15:16 +0100, a écrit :
> Lars Wirzenius, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 10:45:20 +, a écrit :
> > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:30:20AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Lars Wirzenius, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 09:12:58 +, a écrit :
> > > &g
Roland Mas, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 13:41:23 +0100, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault, 2012-01-17 12:03:41 +0100 :
>
> [...]
>
> > I'm not sure to understand what you mean exactly. If you have even
> > just a hundred files of the same size, you will need ten thousand file
>
Samuel Thibault, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 14:02:45 +0100, a écrit :
> On my PhD work directory, with various stuff in it (500MiB, 18000 files,
> big but also small files (svn/git checkouts etc)), everything being in
> cache already (no disk I/O):
>
> hardlink -t --dry-run . > /dev/nul
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Goswin von Brederlow, le Thu 09 Feb 2012 15:53:35 +0100, a écrit :
> 3) What about stable users?
>
> I don't see a way to transition stable users slowly. As said above I
> intent to request removal of ia32-libs for wheezy. So there will be no
> transition period where both ia32-libs and multiarch
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Mike Hommey, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:09:37 +0100, a écrit :
> > sydney_audio_alsa.c:504:5: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be
>
> Would anyone have a clue as to what the hell is happening?
Unpacking liboss4-salsa-dev (from
.../liboss4-salsa-dev_4.2-build2005-2_armel.deb) ...
Selecting
Mike Hommey, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:36:56 +0100, a écrit :
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:23:00PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Mike Hommey, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:09:37 +0100, a écrit :
> > > > sydney_audio_alsa.c:504:5: error: void value not ignored as it ought to
> >
Bastian Blank, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:52:10 +0100, a écrit :
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:23:00PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Mike Hommey, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:09:37 +0100, a écrit :
> > > > sydney_audio_alsa.c:504:5: error: void value not ignored as it ought to
&
Mike Hommey, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:00:32 +0100, a écrit :
> > It *is* compatible. With an older version of the API, which used void
> > there.
>
> So, it's compatible with an API that is older than Alsa v1.0.10rc1,
> released 7 years ago. What is surprising, however, is that Alsa didn't
> change
Bastian Blank, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:02:59 +0100, a écrit :
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:59:51PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Bastian Blank, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:52:10 +0100, a écrit :
> > > I see this:
> > > | Provides: libasound2-dev, liboss-salsa-dev
> >
Ben Hutchings, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 18:08:59 +, a écrit :
> Getting back to OSS, it should not be built for Linux at all as Linux
> already has perfectly good sound drivers.
See the ITP
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=483856
“Many developers claim that OSS4 is now far supperio
Bastian Blank, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 20:36:33 +0100, a écrit :
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:07:40PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Bastian Blank, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:02:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:59:51PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > >
Riku Voipio, le Sat 18 Feb 2012 10:48:56 +0200, a écrit :
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:07:40PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Bastian Blank, le Fri 17 Feb 2012 19:02:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 06:59:51PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > >
Yaroslav Halchenko, le Fri 24 Feb 2012 12:00:00 -0500, a écrit :
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > up, I would start disabling architectures. Since the package has never
> > been built on any architecture the build failures will not hold you back
> > in any way. All they do is
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Matthias Klumpp, le Mon 27 Feb 2012 17:45:14 +0100, a écrit :
> Maybe interesting to read in this upstart vs. systemd vs. sysvinit
> discussion is the comparison of these three init systems:
> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html
> Of course, Lennart Poettering did this, but the points mention
Matthias Klumpp, le Mon 27 Feb 2012 18:42:39 +0100, a écrit :
> 2012/2/27 Samuel Thibault :
> > Matthias Klumpp, le Mon 27 Feb 2012 17:45:14 +0100, a écrit :
> >> Maybe interesting to read in this upstart vs. systemd vs. sysvinit
> >> discussion is the comparison
Alexey Bearded, le Fri 02 Mar 2012 17:01:25 +0200, a écrit :
> Please, do not use tabs for indentation in init.d scripts.
>
> It can make your scripts a bit more readable for all users.
Why?
Samuel
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Vincent Danjean, le Fri 16 Mar 2012 14:37:39 +0100, a écrit :
> Le 16/03/2012 11:14, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> > * We could try to have a tool to automatically convert an upstart or systemd
> > service configuration into a sysvinit init.d script. I have no idea if
> > that
> > is really feasi
Riku Voipio, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 12:20:45 +0200, a écrit :
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:06:22AM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > Common init scripts are short enough to make them easy to debug. Its
> > more annoying when these shellscripts call other shellscripts which call
> > other shellscripts - b
Tollef Fog Heen, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 12:22:20 +0100, a écrit :
> > One big difference, however, is that when your system is screwed, you
> > might however still have an editor. Rebuilding a systemd is a bit more
> > involved, you probably don't even have a compiler on your production
> > system...
>
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 13:35:15 +0100, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault writes:
>
> > Because the issue at stake might lie in systemd itself, not the unit
> > file.
>
> And if /bin/sh breaks on an init style system, you can fix it with an
> editor?
Tollef Fog Heen, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 15:47:45 +0100, a écrit :
> > Stig Sandbeck Mathisen, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 13:35:15 +0100, a écrit :
> > > Samuel Thibault writes:
> > >
> > > > Because the issue at stake might lie in systemd itself, not the unit
> > &g
Russell Coker, le Fri 23 Mar 2012 02:25:57 +1100, a écrit :
> > the boot. You can copy over a woking systemd, fine, your system can
> > boot, but you have to debug the issue with the non-working systemd, i.e.
> > go back to a non-booting system. When a bug is in the shell and hits the
> > init scri
Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:02:59 +0100, a écrit :
> Or we can break this circle and replace this by a simpler solution. Yes,
> we will run into bugs that we wouldn’t have run into without doing
> anything, at first.
And have to re-invent the knobs that the wheel needs.
Samuel
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Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:32:55 +0100, a écrit :
> Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 à 23:05 +0100, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:02:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > > Or we can break this circle and replace this by a simpler solution. Yes,
>
Samuel Thibault, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:43:07 +0100, a écrit :
> Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:32:55 +0100, a écrit :
> > Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 à 23:05 +0100, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > > Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:02:59 +0100, a écrit :
> >
Tollef Fog Heen, le Fri 23 Mar 2012 10:27:02 +0100, a écrit :
> > What init scripts use from the shell is way less complex than what
> > systemd implements, and it's independant from what is needed to achieve
> > the boot. You can copy over a woking systemd, fine, your system can
> > boot, but you
Timo Juhani Lindfors, le Fri 23 Mar 2012 14:15:00 +0200, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault writes:
> > the particular script that poses problem. With a deamon like systemd,
> > it's rather all-or-nothing.
>
> This gives me the impression that systemd would be a single mon
Roger Leigh, le Fri 23 Mar 2012 10:44:31 +, a écrit :
> Debugging the core sysvinit or systemd code does
> require programming expertise, but it only needs doing once.
> Once it's tested and known to work well, the chance of a
> user running into problems with it is very small.
In the case of
Russ Allbery, le Thu 29 Mar 2012 23:41:40 -0700, a écrit :
> systemd's goal wasn't to become a standard that supported things
> people were already doing.
There must be a misunderstanding somewhere, then, and that needs further
explanation: the feature comparison page produced by Lenhart says
exac
Tollef Fog Heen, le Fri 30 Mar 2012 15:40:55 +0200, a écrit :
> > > The maintenance of systemd is actually quite the opposite of a standard.
> >
> > That sentence is quite frightening.
>
> Is it? It's not like the maintenance of the kernel, KDE or GNOME is
> done in the manner you maintain a stan
Russ Allbery, le Fri 30 Mar 2012 10:41:05 -0700, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault writes:
> > Russ Allbery, le Thu 29 Mar 2012 23:41:40 -0700, a écrit :
>
> >> It's focused on being clean, supportable, and fully integrated with
> >> Linux capabilities, *not* to s
Andrey Rahmatullin, le Mon 02 Apr 2012 19:21:59 +0600, a écrit :
> On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 05:14:25PM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> > > And the third advantage of it, is that upstream people is starting to ship
> > > systemd unit files.
> > It is not advantage. it is crap. I believe no one can write
Ricardo Obando, le Fri 26 Oct 2012 21:29:37 -0300, a écrit :
> When will there be in debian installer for Debian and wubi as Ubuntu?
When somebody implements it.
Samuel
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Paul Wise, le Sun 28 Oct 2012 11:34:33 +0800, a écrit :
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > When somebody implements it.
>
> Someone already did:
>
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/unstable/win32-loader.txt
Wubi is not only about in
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