Re: [pkg-lighttpd] Bug#383425: lighttpd: Distinguish installation from activation

2008-06-03 Thread Pierre Habouzit
> one of rc.d configuration. So please make this information more visible > when looking for it from the dpkg-side. Some kind of xref in `dpkg' > manual would help. Well I reckon it's not really well documented, I'm not not sure where to put that. dpkg is maybe n

Re: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after discussion

2008-06-03 Thread Pierre Habouzit
g version informations and that in fact more affect testing than what we know. Though OTOH, unstable has many more bugs than testing that are _not_ in testing for sure :) But I know no numbers here, as the one buscan gives are for all packages, not only th

Re: Bug#484009: removed bugs are marked as 'obsolete'

2008-06-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:31:22AM +, Mike Bird wrote: > On Wed June 4 2008 00:59:15 Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > a broken software, or an inadequate one is more a problem to > > me than not having it in Debian. Debian is about quality, not > > quantity. > > (1) Pi

Re: Bug#484009: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after discussion

2008-06-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 02:11:51PM +, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Arguments like > > On 2008-06-04 15:34, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > >> (2) To a user who wishes to use a working feature of an imperfect > >> package, Debian is better with the imperfect package tha

status of bazaar

2008-06-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
(here bazaar is a backend I suppose it's rather easy to disable) ; * vcs-load-dirs (ditto). So the question is what do we do ? is someone going to fix it ? or should I open bugs on config-manager and vcs-load-dirs to drop their depend upon bazaar ? -- ·O· Pierre Habouzi

Re: status of bazaar

2008-06-12 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:20:25PM +, James Westby wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 10:56 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Bazaar currently suffers from #454313, but has reverse dependencies > > which prevent its sane removal from testing. It looks to me that bazaar > > is

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
you really mean to provide something like ia32-apt-get, what you ought to do is to: - help the user create and maintain a proper 32bits chroot; - let ia32-apt-get or whatever it's called be a forward to running apt-get inside that chroot; - find a way to let the user run commands

Re: Linking libxxx.so to libxxx_r.so? dpkg-shlibdep doesn't like it...

2009-07-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
lds nothing with the .16 version, libmysql_r.so has *not* an ABI that includes the one of libmysqlclient.so. IOW programs that would be built against libmysqlclient.so on other distros will not work on Debian at all if you do that. As of the dpkg-shlibdeps warning you can probably work it around

Re: Linking libxxx.so to libxxx_r.so? dpkg-shlibdep doesn't like it...

2009-07-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 03:53:58PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 11:01:21PM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > > Hello > > > > To help packages like Apache which have some parts like libaprutil > > that wants to link against libmysqlclie

Re: Non-unified patches and dpkg source format ‘3.0 (quilt)’.

2009-08-06 Thread Pierre Habouzit
$ combinediff aa-to-ab.diff /dev/null unchanged: --- aa 2009-08-06 18:25:44.875327948 +0200 +++ ab 2009-08-06 18:25:50.107327652 +0200 @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ toto -tuti +tutu titi Cheers, -- Intersec <http://www.intersec.com> Pierre Habouzit Tél : +33 (0)1

Re: Non-unified patches and dpkg source format ‘3.0 (quilt)’.

2009-08-06 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 06:33:28PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Those are actually valid ed scripts IIRC. Okay, sorry, I meant to remove that sentence that is actually wrong... sorry 'bout that. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··Omadco...@de

Re: Non-unified patches and dpkg source format ‘3.0 (quilt)’.

2009-08-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
calls patch(1) to apply the patches, à la cdbs-simple-patchsys. -- Intersec <http://www.intersec.com> Pierre Habouzit Tél : +33 (0)1 5570 3346 Mob : +33 (0)6 1636 8131 Fax : +33 (0)1 5570 3332 37 Rue Pierre Lhomme 92400 Courbevoie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.

Re: Non-unified patches and dpkg source format ‘3.0 (quilt)’.

2009-08-09 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 04:12:35PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:45:14AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > >> Le Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:26:02AM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > >> > > >> > (filterd

Re: Non-unified patches and dpkg source format ‘3.0 (quilt)’.

2009-08-13 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 06:04:34PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > retitle 485330 Allow context diff in debian/patches/ in 3.0 (quilt) format > thanks > > On Thu, 06 Aug 2009, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > That said, yes, using non-unified diff is as laughable as using RCS or

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-06 Thread Pierre Habouzit
/restart anymore. So I'd say that even for Linux we want some kind of sysvinit like scripts anyways. -- Intersec <http://www.intersec.com> Pierre Habouzit Tél : +33 (0)1 5570 3346 Mob : +33 (0)6 1636 8131 Fax : +33 (0)1 5570 3332 37 Rue Pierre Lhomme 92400 Courbevoie signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-06 Thread Pierre Habouzit
rt for enabling it on Linux architectures. > + > + -- Manoj Srivastava Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:15:46 -0500 Isn't it a duplicate of #543420 where the maintainer claims upstream doesn't want such a patch ? -- Intersec <http://www.intersec.com> Pierre Habouzit Tél : +33 (0)1 5570

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-06 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 10:52:22AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 06:40:44PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 12:04:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > On Sep 06, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > > > Whe

Re: Patch Tagging Guidelines (aka DEP3)

2009-09-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
sider adopting DEP3 without those "fixes". With those fixes though, it's just a tiny bit of effort for them, so you'll instead probably see quite a fast adopting rate for DEP3... -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··Omadco...@debian.org O

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
can cherry-pick patches and format-patch them away. If you ask them to add one missing header like the actual source or commid-id they took the patch from, they'll probably do it (I would at least). If you ask to rewrite the full stuff, then really, "go to hell" will probably

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 03:23:50PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 10:30:14PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> Anyway, I'd rather wait some time until people have tried using this > >> f

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-09 Thread Pierre Habouzit
going in the good direction. He's annoyed I sent that mail so late (and FWIW sorry but I hadn't the time to do it before, and when I had time in august I hadn't connectivity.. but whatever) but I think the proposal will be amended so that we're co

Re: Release goal: Getting rid of unneeded *.la / emptying dependency_libs

2009-09-09 Thread Pierre Habouzit
anyway. If GObject or gpointer changes, symbol versioning doesn't > > save you because _GtkTextChildAnchor is a public type > > This can all be solved using symbol versioning. Buf it will > probably require alot of work to get it righ

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
se that is the exception. Not the reverse. This is a major (if not _THE_ major) annoyance with the BTS. FWIW this is a long discussed issue, and the BTS maintainers do not share this opinion (that mailing @ should also mail the submitter) so we're basically

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:23:32PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:08:00PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > When the maintainer think the bug reporter is not to be annoyed, then he > > should mail nnn-silent or whatever, because that is the exception

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
bscribed Easy way to override 2: let reportbug have a --do-not-subscribe-me-to-bugs--I-mean-it--I-really-want-to-be-a-PITA-for-the-maintainer for people that never remember about the pseudo-header. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O

Re: libjpeg62-dev -> libjpeg-dev transition

2009-09-18 Thread Pierre Habouzit
e. I'm not sure if we're ready for this transition yet though, I'll let luk or other RA/RM check if now is the best moment to do so. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··Omadco...@debian.org OOOhttp://www.madism.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: libjpeg62-dev -> libjpeg-dev transition

2009-09-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:47:35AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 01:08:12AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 12:04:32AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > Dear developers, > > > > > > There is a new version of

Re: libjpeg62-dev -> libjpeg-dev transition

2009-09-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 01:01:38PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:47:35AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 01:08:12AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 12:04:32AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: >

Re: libjpeg62-dev -> libjpeg-dev transition

2009-09-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 02:32:51PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Pierre Habouzit (madco...@madism.org) [090919 01:08]: > > I'll put blocks in my hint file to be sure that both those packages will > > migrate in testing together (I'm unsure if britney is clever enough to

Re: libjpeg62-dev -> libjpeg-dev transition

2009-09-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 07:20:40PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 02:32:51PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Pierre Habouzit (madco...@madism.org) [090919 01:08]: > > > I'll put blocks in my hint file to be sure that both those packages will &

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
n dpkg, then pushed to user, then used, IOW only squeeze+1 would be a target for "Supersedes" use anyway. [2] yes slow, because for each package install, dpkg would have to wonder if anything supersedes it, and deal with all the issues that would arise if _two_ binary packages S

Re: libjpeg62-dev -> libjpeg-dev transition

2009-09-20 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 03:00:54PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 07:40:28PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 07:20:40PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 02:32:51PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > &g

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-20 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 06:16:52PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > On lördagen den 19 september 2009, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > There is one point in having the transitional package: it ensures that > > no package does try to take "foo" as a package name in $stable +

Re: Bug#554893: startup script should be more careful with chown -R

2009-11-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
the package actually is bogus from the beginning] For all I care you cannot exploit this bug, unless you can make the nsd user write symlink to files there. If this is asking for trouble, and my next upload is going to fix that, it's not really worth the fuss about c

Re: http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib - stopped updating?

2007-01-28 Thread Pierre Habouzit
ore precise that RSN. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpDdfzQxDog6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Message header fields (was: Bits from the Debian GNU/kFreeBSD porters)

2007-02-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
t; F1BCDB73 > > > | gpg: Good signature from "Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" > > > | [-- End of PGP output --] Given that Aurélien's message was signed with his key, I really find that rant pointless. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O

Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts

2007-02-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
use they just fear the length and complexity of getting their account back. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpjj7n2RWWMo.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Handling of (inactive) Debian Accounts

2007-02-11 Thread Pierre Habouzit
That wouldn't hurt the Debian project, or at least much less > than poorly maintaining my packages. > > Maybe the time before the DPL election could be use to find out how data > from MIA could also be used in this process ? Then you'll get the WaT mail and have a chance to pon

Re: recent etch upgrade... sashroot (uid=0) started to impersonate uid=0 (root)

2007-02-15 Thread Pierre Habouzit
that doesn't use an ordered flatfile for its > data storage? I totally agree with that. the _gnu libc_ getpwuid implementation is nothing, even not a de facto standard. I'm almost sure it does not behave the same on other OS'es. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpE2dBMFwBkX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: recent etch upgrade... sashroot (uid=0) started to impersonate uid=0 (root)

2007-02-15 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 10:45:53AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > >>>>> "Pierre" == Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Pierre> I totally agree with that. the _gnu libc_ getpwuid > Pierre> implementation is nothing, even not a de

Re: Nice use of profanity...(Re:GNOME and trolls)

2007-02-20 Thread Pierre Habouzit
t's different in that it's recent... > > How does being recent make it relevant to a GNOME discussion? > > How is it different from all the other recent terrorist acts in a way that > makes it relevant to a discussion of GNOME? Am I mistaken or this is a flame on how

Re: bugs.d.o down (was: wiki.debian.org disk problems resolved)

2007-02-22 Thread Pierre Habouzit
our ISP has bad caching for its DNS resolution. FYI rietz (the machin the bts is on) has been down for 8 hours or so. To understand sam's post http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony#Verbal_irony may be useful. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAI

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Pierre Habouzit
need proof, look at the libc: too many unanswered bugs, it should not be in testing. End of story. The releasable set of packages is now void, we can release any minute now ! -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpD8HXkVebpJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Pierre Habouzit
on't. Sorry to seem pissed, but well, I am. Your mail (and others with the same thoughts) are completely disconnected from reality. Totally. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpQ4i5KAhS20.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-25 Thread Pierre Habouzit
n fact, I would argue that the more reports you receive, the more you > should endeavour to make sure that they are properly triaged and that > the submitters know you are working on them. well, that would be a lie: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) we don't work on them. So all's for the best, i

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:32:41PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 02:55:39AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > And btw, help for bug triaging for any of those kind of packages is > > vastly appreciated... But here is a newsflash: 100 bugs

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
e project}/ [0] http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpdzsQNWW4OA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 10:45:24AM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070226 03:03]: > > So now let's do a simple calculation. 100 bugs, 20 minutes, that's > > 2000 minutes, over 6 weeks, that's 333 minutes a week, meaning

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
e, I quite choke on his words, because I really think KDE packaging workflow has never been better in the last 3 years. It does not mean it can't be even better, but we're definitely working in the good direction, and are not slugged either. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpjT5adoGCyn.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:07:20PM +, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Pierre Habouzit said: > > I was previously beeing ironic, now I'm not anymore. > > No, previously you were being sarcastic. There is a difference between > the two. > >

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
ce on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm currently trying to reduce the >= important bugs to only a few relevant ones, while Aurélien is busy making it build, then work on all $archs around. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOO

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
he teams can't keep up. They're not here for making the coffee and photocopies, but really to do the same work as the full DD's. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpAGxD05Fjys.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
e a very bad developer. I hereby think that you should be expelled in retaliation. Cheers, -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgp87RsrDjXsI.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-27 Thread Pierre Habouzit
ian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2006/01/msg00037.html We've seen how good it was for us, at least in the KDE team we got about ... errr... 0 help offers. Could one stop thinking teams packaging large things are as uncommunicative as some core teams in debian ? Actuall

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-02-27 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:37:56PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:04:47AM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) > wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote

Re: incorrect path to locales? (might be rc)

2007-02-28 Thread Pierre Habouzit
found. Stop. that's because ko is not a valid locale specifier. $ LC_MESSAGES=ko_KR.utf8 make make: *** 타겟이 지정되지 않았고 메이크파일이 없습니다. 멈춤. You can get valid locale specifier that work on your system with locale -a. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O

Re: incorrect path to locales? (might be rc)

2007-02-28 Thread Pierre Habouzit
SAGES=ko_KR.utf8 locale|grep LC_MESS LC_MESSAGES=ko_KR.utf8 -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpmCBUcG2FH4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-01 Thread Pierre Habouzit
;to not admit sth" implicates active denial in my understanding. As a member of such teams, and co-issuer of help requests statements on user lists (debian-kde@) I did felt quite itched by Eduard statement. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpnWteLu66vy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
discussions, but I'd really like names here. In fact, that seems pretty contradictory with the very notion of a team. Of course, there is teams with 1 single member in it in debian, but that's not a "large team" and is out of the scope if I'm not mistaken. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpoNrC6sLxAp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-03 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 09:03:40PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 18:57 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > but I would > > obviously lessen my implication and work for other teams where I've a > > single damn chance to see my contribution to be com

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
the latent criticism of the big teams to hide their understaff problem. It's blatantly bogus hence iritating, almost insulting. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpDl4u7GFVqs.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-06 Thread Pierre Habouzit
it seems one of our DPL candidates thinks the same :) -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpIrJEc2DCc5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 12:49:56PM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote: > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Like every packaging team in debian, mailing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] or > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] depending on how old the team is. Usually that list > > is in

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 11:39:16AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > And if your point is that the current BTS UI sucks, then well, yes I > > believe it, and it seems one of our DPL candidates thinks the same > > As I've indi

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 10:47:09PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 02:19:17PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit a écrit : > > > The mail you are answering to was against forums, not really against > > the BTS btw. > > Bonsoir Pierre, > > I have lur

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
; > to ] ] > > hide their understaff problem. It's blatantly bogus hence iritating, ] ] > > almost insulting. ] ] > ] ] > Don't you wonder why it is perceived like that? Which do seem like a quite not very hidden accu

Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
mportant. Just know that none of the suggestions made so far would have helped me more when I was searching who/what to help, it would even have bored me. shouting for help everywhere is like noise: it's absurdly painful, and will itch people way too much. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O

Re: packaging python modules with .so files?

2007-03-14 Thread Pierre Habouzit
et to build-depends upon python-all-dev (that will pull everything you need to build python packages) additionnaly to your usual non python-ic build depends. Cheers, -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpdEVSaAFZF1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: What is the reason glibc is at version 2.3 for etch?

2007-03-22 Thread Pierre Habouzit
rrently in a hiatus, even with libc2.5, as we will probably drop linuxthreads support, and that no viable NPTL port exists yet. Cheers, -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madis

Re: Bug#417261: dch: please use dates in UTC

2007-04-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
ded* > > See also > http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/what_timezones_have_you_uploaded_debian_packages_from.html > > Christoph > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.df7cb.de/ -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgp2E6lVIMnga.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

2007-04-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
? I fail to see the logic in there > As far as I know, no program in Debian actually uses this code, it's > just inherited from upstream libraries. AFAICT Debian just ignores patents, else we would have to remove maybe 70% of the archive. Are IDEA patents actively enforced ?

Re: *dbg pakages

2007-04-11 Thread Pierre Habouzit
e info available. > #8 0x in ?? () > No symbol table info available. because it is for me. the very fact that you still have function names without the -dbg is because OOo is C++ and that "thanks to" the C++ symbols names mangling it's able to go back to the re

Re: pychess freezes + kernel 2.6 threading library

2007-04-15 Thread Pierre Habouzit
> > too hard. Not sure. > > > > Hi Thomas, > I am CCing this mail to debian-devel. Lets see if we can get some > help there. > > Hi all, > Please have a look at this bug report: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-24 Thread Pierre Habouzit
ces (values of some variables or so) and see textually if sensitive informations are in there or not. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpNBHNkLffwg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Common place to keep subnet address/size information?

2007-04-27 Thread Pierre Habouzit
r options available for us to avoid hard coding IP > subnet information in the squid, sysklogd and cfservd configuration > files? Well, don't all those daemons use /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} ? I know it's not *exactly* what you wanted, but afaict hosts.* are wa

Re: Common place to keep subnet address/size information?

2007-04-27 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 01:20:02PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Pierre Habouzit] > > It's not doable, because the POSIX getnetent answers in a struct > > getent that cannot store the netmask, a simple getnetent(3) has the > > answer. And that's the reason wh

Re: plan for mass-bug filing, removal of php4

2007-05-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 11:37:35PM +0200, sean finney wrote: > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >php-json-ext False positive, I already contacted you on this, recent php5 has json support upstreams now (and you agreed to enable that builtin as it adds no new dependency), a

Re: Getting ftp-master mails as sponsor

2007-05-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
ponsorees sometimes have many sponsors, and well, I just want katie's ack when I does the upload to be sure I did not screwed up, but I don't care when I'm not the uploader. IOW, I do second nion request. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O

Unidentified subject!

2007-05-18 Thread Pierre Habouzit
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Re: TLS support [was Re: Unidentified subject!]

2007-05-18 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:40:53AM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 03:20:00PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > You were previously made aware[0] that glibc-2.6 needs TLS to be > > implemented for your ports to build and work properly, sadly this is > > s

Re: TLS support [was Re: Unidentified subject!]

2007-05-18 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 11:05:31AM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 07:35:07PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > There is a quite good pdf on Uli's page. Search Ullrich Drepper on > > google, you should be able to find it. IIRC there is the explanation on

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-05-24 Thread Pierre Habouzit
, at least, it's Debian's position for now. There is no troll, only misunderstanding from your end :) -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgp6PZ41aj5zn.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: checklib

2007-05-24 Thread Pierre Habouzit
gress? We're still waitinf for the lufthansa machines to set it up :/ > also, where do I get the source code from (since the link > http://greek0.net/div/checklib.tar.gz seems broken)? > > maybe the source code may be uploaded in the alioth project that would be go

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
asn't reading my calendar properly, we're in 2007 not 1997, sorry). FWIW, I don't think your initiative will help doing anything concrete, and I strongly regret it. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpqV6twR9znI.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Though, upstreams doing this could also I'd say use symbol versionning and bump the version of this symbol if it behaviour changed, so that the binary couldn't be used on an earlier version of the library by mistake, depends on what this "extension" of the API really

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:20:53PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Saturday 26 May 2007 23:07, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > and the debian-www team is recovering from the > > shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and that CSS2 is almost > > stable (err wait, I wasn&

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
good demonstration of what I meant. Further comments are not really needed. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpmHfFCkUI1q.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-05-27 Thread Pierre Habouzit
tyle=gnu in etch. Hence e.g. if libxml2 has been build with -hash-style=gnu you won't be able to link any program against it. The glibc shlibs is a very loosy and convoluted way to make sure that the toolchain is recent enough, because the change was uncoordinat

Re: Wanted: introductory page for all teams

2007-05-29 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:54:34PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > and the debian-www team is recovering from the > > > > shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and that CSS2 is almost > &g

Re: BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-05-30 Thread Pierre Habouzit
things are not very easy to use, take the number of revisions per upstream release, it could either be that upstream releases are not done very often, and that the maintainer does a good job patching some upstream bugs, or that OTOH he's doing a poor job and needs 10 uploads to get thing

Re: Debian .deb for any 0.9.9 beta/dev version?

2007-06-03 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 01:55:12PM +0200, Lars Schimmer wrote: > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:11:36AM +0100, Lars Schimmer wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >> Because of some dumbfold (self created) problems, I am willing to test > >&

Re: Improving dependencies on shared libraries

2007-06-03 Thread Pierre Habouzit
ly at random) C++ libraries that do not use symbols visibility, hence exposing myriad of non exported symbols, which will create new shlib bumps for ... nothing. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpq8PavhzxpP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
al issue IMHO is indeed bandwidth, as this is still a quite expensive resource. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpLl79I7b2Oo.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Dependencies on shared libs, take 2

2007-06-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
e to expect quite some breakage from less strict > dependencies). symbol visibility support in gcc is not that old, and many upstream don't use it (yet). For them there is many many many private symbols in the libraries, and well, they don't matter at all.

Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?

2007-06-11 Thread Pierre Habouzit
as such a distribution service exists, I've for sure some dozens of gigabyte and 10 to 20 Mbits on a server of mine to be part of the network. _that_ would be 100x more productive than to try to take shortcuts on the archive for bad reasons. PS: Oh and I don't say

Re: Consequences of the removal of Experimental.

2007-06-12 Thread Pierre Habouzit
bc are very useful to check that the libc builds and passes the testsuite properly. If we have to wait for 2 weeks to have an answer to that test (and it's a still running counter for now) then it's already useless anyways. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O

Re: Automated mails to maintainers of packages with serious problems

2007-06-22 Thread Pierre Habouzit
things would happen if the package was rejected from NEW and then > reuploaded with the same version number but with a different set of bugs > closed. alternatively, REJECT scripts can be updated to reopen bugs they closed in that case. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O

Re: Proposed new release goal: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-06-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
the 50 most > 'delicate' packages is in: > > http://people.debian.org/~enrico/2007-06/sample-reverse-sat.txt wow, this looks pretty accurate, though adduser seems misplaced in that list. You should remove arch:all packages, they are seldomly a concern for migrations. -- ·O

Bug#430335: ITP: nsd3 -- authoritative name domain server

2007-06-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: nsd3 Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : NLnet Labs * URL : http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/nsd/ * License : Mostly BSD with some bits in GPLv2 Programming Lang: C Descr

Re: Bug#430335: ITP: nsd3 -- authoritative name domain server

2007-06-24 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 12:35:25PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > Hi Pierre, > > On Saturday 23 June 2007 15:57, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > * Package name: nsd3 > > >NSD3 is an fast, authoritative only, high performance, simple > >and open source name s

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