Re: Packagebrowser big update

2003-04-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 07:18:20PM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote: > I just updated my "packagebrowser" to a completely rewritten version. I finally got around to looking at this, and it is very cool! I have one suggestion for the CGI, which is to add the ability to query for packages by maintainer

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 12:30:54PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > 2) Do you forsee tags being maintained outside of the packages in the > future? For developing the tag system this makes sense, but it seems to > me that maintainers should have more direct control over this somehow. I think that t

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 03:19:57AM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote: > - policy should require that tags are added This is going to be problematic. I think it would be better to have an override system where missing tags can be added by a central authority, rather than trying to force all maintainers

Re: GLIBCPP_3.2 not defined

2003-04-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 07:55:42PM -0700, curt brune wrote: > I just did "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" for SID and am getting > all sorts of errors. I upgraded about a week ago with any problems. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=libstdc%2B%2B5 -- - mdz

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-04-29 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 09:58:16AM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote: > Of course. they can be overriden the same way the section "gnome" was > overridden for these packages. So no uploads would be required, but the > packages can just be updated with their next uploads. Maybe some will stay > in the ov

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:42:03PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > > Luis Francisco Gonzalez > > tcsh > > tcsh-i18n > > tcsh-kanji > > uuh, tcsh is an OpenOffice.org Build-Dependency > I wouldn't take it because I don't use it, but we need it... tcsh as a build-

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:51:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 02:41:49PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > > reach any of the people listed in [1] and [2] below, please feel free > > to contact them and get them to reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Is there a mnemonic for tha

Re: OO build-depends on tcsh (Was: Debian MIA check)

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:26:42PM +0200, Nicolas Kratz wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:59:25PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That > > should be fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh. > > ISTR that lots

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 07:40:01AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2003 06:59, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That > > should be fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh. > > Why is it a bug for the compil

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:05:38PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > And please don't be offended by the .sig. That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the contents of many messages). Refer to RFC 1855 or a

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:48:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:05:38PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > > > > > And please don't be offended by the .sig. > > > > That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and &g

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
Please get this OFF of debian-private and onto -devel. Quote me anywhere. On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:23:52AM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote: Security should be important in the testing distribution. [etc. etc. etc.] If you want to see security updates for 'testing', then start preparing security up

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:07:16AM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote: > > On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 05:20 PM, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > >If you want to see security updates for 'testing', then start preparing > >security updates for 'testing'. It does not help

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:00:17PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: > I'm honestly not sure how much involvement would be necessary, I > guess unlike updates to stable there wouldn't be so many controls upon > the testing archive, and uploads could be made directly without any > real problem. There

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 06:35:46PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Yes, but this is not something that is clearly said. Many people run > testing without even being aware that there may be security issues, or > more precisely, that the security issues are orders of magnitude worse > than even what is

Re: xf86config bug

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:43:10PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > I can't seem to find the package that xf86config belongs to, but the bug > is as follows: apt-get install reportbug reportbug `which xf86config` reportbug will allow you to look at existing bug reports (which you should) before fil

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 05:08:34PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > IMHO, it is only particularly valuable for users to run testing when a > > release is approaching (at which point security updates and removals > > take place en masse). > > Wasn't testing supposed to be a perpetually mostly-re

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
(removing -private _again_) On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:14:53AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > I'm sorry, I am on a public terminal, and can't quite remember where I > read it - But testing should always be close to a releasable state. The key word being "close" to releasable (or "almost" releasable

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:03:32AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > Figuring that a security upload would be preferable, I approached the > security team and offered to prepare an upload. I was effectively told > that this isn't done, and because it isn't done, most testing users don't > have secur

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 07:15:04PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > This is documented prominently on the website. If people do not look > > before they leap, there is little we can do. > > Sure we can. We can consider the lack of security updates

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:18:22PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that users would react rather negatively to having packages > > (ones that they use) effectively disappear from their system, but the > > o

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:53:31PM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote: > Then people can bitch and moan about package X not being available and > can do something to fix it (eg. finally start doing security updates > for testing). Or they can just put up with it. But either way, their > box wont be

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:14:20PM +0200, Björn Stenberg wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > There is no shortage of opinions about what "we" should do, but there is > > unlikely to be any action until an "I" arises who actually does the > > work. &g

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 01:10:18AM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote: > So perhaps the replacement is a better way of doing it. Then the > question is whether you replace it with a dummy empty one, or a > essentially identical working one, except containing a very loud > warning. Replacement has it

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 01:20:08AM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote: > > On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 12:42 AM, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > >The idea being discussed, as I understand it, is to have fewer security > >vulnerabilities in 'testing'. The only sane way to acco

Re: conflicts-based solution (was Re: security in testing)

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 07:12:15PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > So here's an alternative that would actually work: > > Take the harden package, or create something similar: a package that > conflicts with all versions of packages with known security holes. Note > that harden currently does not track

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 01:24:08AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > What about having a dummy package "testing-security", consisting of > nothing but a huge list of versioned conflicts (and perhaps a few hints in > /usr/share/doc/ about how to setup a mixed stable/testing or > testing/unstable apt so

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 01:06:20PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:12:08AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > If it just comes down to applying patches, and doing the rebuilds then > > > it seems to be the kind of job a small team cou

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 01:10:35PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:27:12PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > This is an excellent point. Testing users do not expect updates from > > securit.debian.org, so there is no reason that they need to be kept >

Re: security in testing

2003-05-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 15, 2003, someone calling themselves "LapTop006" wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:59:49PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman arranged a set of > bits into the following: > > There are no mirrors of security.debian.org, and have not been for as long > > as I have b

Re: security in testing

2003-05-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 03:19:02PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:59:49PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > Do you honestly think would be a good idea to use testing-security this way > > on a continual basis? > > Yes, I do. I think we should relea

Re: Kernel 2.5.69 problem

2003-05-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 12:08:02PM -0400, Victor Torrico wrote: > I compiled and ran the debian kernel-source-2.5.69 package. It boots OK, > however, none of he modutil functions work. I keep getting the following > error message: "QM_MODULES: Function not implemented" whenever I try things

Re: security in testing

2003-05-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:40:10AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 10:06:47AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > There's that "we" again. Why not unstable, too? > > I'd have no problem with that. You don't seem to have any problem s

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 01:59:48PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 10:28:48PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > Outstanding DSA's are not the matter at hand; > > Sure they are: if you're complaining that the security team already has > to

Re: security in testing

2003-05-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 02:41:47PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:06:25PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > The problem is finding competent volunteers to do the work. > > I must have missed that post to debian-devel-announce where the security > guys call for respo

Re: security in testing

2003-05-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 02:08:28AM +1200, Nick Phillips wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:27:12PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:03:32AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > > Figuring that a security upload would be preferable, I approached

Re: Support RFC 3534 - The application/ogg Media Type

2003-05-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 05:57:54PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > apache: mime.types needs updating. On my system at least, /etc/apache/mime.types is a symlink to /etc/mime.types. -- - mdz

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 09:33:48AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > Looking at woody in fact, it appears to only exceptions appear to be > HPPA and IA64: > > kernel-source-2.2.22 - Linux kernel source for version 2.2.22 > kernel-source-2.4.10 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.10 > kernel-source-2.4.

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 12:06:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > There is also a mechanism to order the order in which > kernel-patches are applied -- so if, say, a m68k kernel image > maintainer wanted to create a patch relative to the i386 patches, > they could depend on that patch,

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 05:13:54AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > Definately. This should be done if only to avoid multiple copies of a 27M > bzip2 archive wasting everyone's disk space and network bandwidth. > > Also regarding the i386 arch, multiple patches would be good. Something > in the i3

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 10:02:58AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > I'll start here: > > Kernel package policy: "kernel image" to avoid confusion between kernel source, kernel headers, kernel modules, etc. > -- > > * It should only exist one kernel-source package. > * Every mo

Re: steambox ripper

2003-05-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 04:19:31PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: > No, sorry - I'm afraid we'll first have to complete our search for the > sheets of ".." before we can work on > your request. Do you realize that every time this is mentioned in the list archives, it gets worse? -- - mdz

Re: Executable /lib/ld-linux.so breaks noexec

2003-05-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 05:45:21PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Is there any particular reason to have /lib/ld-linux.so.* exxecutable? > If it is used only as a proper library, it need not be executable. > > The problem is that this breaks the "noexec" mount option. If /foo is > mounted noexec, th

Re: Symlinking /usr/share/doc/ is not allowed

2003-05-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 08:00:21PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > I don't see any objection to symlinking if both packages are created of > the same sourcepackage, the second one depends on =first-package-version > and (naturally) have the same copyright. It makes it impossible to extract the chan

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:04:05AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > To make it more interesting, Matt Zimmerman revealed[2] that merging all > kernel source packages would save space of one CD from our archive and our > CD images. I was probably exaggerating slightly; I did not do the cal

Re: Why does typing "navigator" run mozilla?

2001-04-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 09:02:17AM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote: > Craig Sanders wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 05:32:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > > (the only times i want to do that is when paranoia makes me start up a new > > navigator binary

Re: searching for Raphael Bossek [Mailer-Daemon@master.debian.org: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

2001-04-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 02:45:57PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Hi, > > The BTS got several of these... FYI, I tried to contact him several times before NMUing commonc++, and got neither bounce nor response. Other bug report logs against his packages seem to indicate that he has been MIA for som

Re: analysis of package dependencies

2001-04-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 11:18:35AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > deborphan might be tweakable to do this. pkg-order could also be useful. > > Apt 0.5 now has a python interface, and possibly a perl interface, so > > that's probably usable too. > > Deborphan is nearly perfect

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-29 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:31:19PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > It would be great to have an automated system where one could subscribe to > bugs for a particular package without having all the hassles of filling a > bug and waiting an answer. And having something automated would allow me > to

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 03:40:56PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > >>>>> "Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Matt> I agree that a system like this would be nice, but until > Matt> that day, you can subscribe to debian

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 10:55:22PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Christian Hammers wrote: > > Would it be good to have a package task-debian that had dependencies to such > > "meta" packages (including the latest version of apt,debconf and dpkg) to > > ensure that users always get the latest Debian "

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:51:45PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:36:21AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > > Unless, of course, you can do your filtering on the mail server, as I do. > > and how many isps allow this? Some IMAP servers support

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:22:47AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:29:58PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: > > I suspect it's already been discussed before, so I'll ask instead of > > flaming. (See! I can learn!) > > many times before. > > > Why does a server auto

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 10:03:49AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > ...what would people think of making a task-emacs and moving both tetex > > and emacs out from standard? > > As an emacs user I think this is an excellent idea, but I worry that > such stretching of the defin

Re: package servers inconsistent?

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 08:50:06PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Is it possible to keep an eye upon package consistency on the > hosts 'http.us.debian.org'? > > Each time I run 'apt-get update', some of the package lists on my > machine seem to be outdated, even if the last update has been done >

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:16:16PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > [whose words are these? unattributed in your mail] > > Sorry, but this is broken. This assumes that IFS is set to begin with > > which may not be the case. > > I have consulted the Single Unix Standard and can find only dubious > j

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 04:36:14PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Matt Zimmerman writes: > > I think Emacs as a task makes good sense. > > I think getting it out of standard makes good sense, but I'm not convinced > that it makes sense as a "task". I think it ma

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 09:17:21AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > >>>>> "Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Matt> Unless, of course, you can do your filtering on the mail > Matt> server, as I do. > > In my c

Re: 404's

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:00:18PM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: > It seems like an easy way to prevent the following would be to update the > Packages.gz file LAST, after syncing up the other files, IE: > > rsync --exclude "Packages*" debian/pool > rsync --delete debian/pool (If old packages are e

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:31:48PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In many Linux distributions, Emacs is a high-level installation task, like > > "Games" or "Mail". This makes sense to the average user, wh

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 11:10:47PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > I think it makes as much sense as the existing task packages. > > Existing brokenness is no excuse for new brokenness though. I have gone > into detail about how the current task system is

Re: upgrading only urgency=high packages

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 02:12:24PM -0400, Dan Christensen wrote: > Is there a way to upgrade all currently installed packages which have > had an urgency=high version uploaded to the archive since I last > upgraded? (And any necessary dependencies, of course.) I'm thinking > of this for the unst

Re: Bug#95801: won't let me upgrade perl from stable to unstable

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 09:57:57PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > And it doesn't matter for you either, because I reassigned the bug to > perl-base. If you continue to argue and say that it is not a bug > (somewhere; anywhere) that I can't upgrade from stable to unstable I > will ignore your messages.

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:50:51PM -0500, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > Oh, I don't know if it's an ugly hack. Think about it, theres one program > or system that handles conflicts and dependencies. Why not rely on it? > Making multiple programs to do the same function (installing and removing > pack

Re: upgrading only urgency=high packages

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 02:10:32PM -0500, Gordon Sadler wrote: > On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 02:44:21PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > > I had an idea (and a working script) to extract changelogs from source > > packages and insert them into a SQL database. My orig

Re: BTS feature?

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 11:51:39AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Steve M. Robbins writes: > > I don't follow your reasoning. Are you suggesting that the bug > > submitters will be less annoyed if the bug is closed after 30 days, > > rather than immediately? Why would that be? > > Many bug submitt

Re: Dpkg problems

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:15:58PM -0400, Jon Eisenstein wrote: > I seem to be in a very troublesome spot... My dpkg segfaults in any needed > situation: > > dpkg -i foo > Segmentation fault > > Dselect: Update > Okay > Dselect: Select > Segmentation fault > > dpkg --unpack fo

Re: Dpkg problems

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 06:27:32PM -0400, Jon Eisenstein wrote: > > Did you check whether the contents of /var/lib/dpkg are intact > > (specifically, the status file and info/*.list)? > > The status file exists but is empty, and the info/*.list seem to be intact. status should theoretically be r

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 12:30:23PM +1000, Sam Couter wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > A cleaner implementation would be to create a simple program or script that > > would attempt to remove a given package and (recursively) all of its > >

Re: upgrading only urgency=high packages

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 07:56:10PM -0700, Francois Gouget wrote: > On Tue, 1 May 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: [...] > > I had an idea (and a working script) to extract changelogs from source > > packages and insert them into a SQL database. My original intention was to > >

Re: upgrading only urgency=high packages

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 08:28:09PM -0700, Francois Gouget wrote: >I know about apt-listchanges but, AFAIU, it extracts the changelog from >the .deb files. So you cannot get this changelog before downloading the >.deb packages. It's when I'm still in dselect deciding which packages to >

Re: package servers inconsistent?

2001-05-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:33:27PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > [...] > > Maybe its too difficult to provide consistent package files for the short > window while the mirror updates are running. No cons. > > But is it possible to set some kind

Re: upgrading only urgency=high packages

2001-05-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 10:01:44AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > >>>>> "Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Matt> I discussed the idea a bit with James Troup, and one of his > Matt> concerns was that the database would be c

Re: upgrading only urgency=high packages

2001-05-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 08:38:23PM -0400, Dan Christensen wrote: > These ideas sound great to me. In case they don't get implemented, or until > they do, would it be hard to cook up a script that does what I want, even if > it involves downloading the packages to see the changelogs? If you don't

Re: upgrading only urgency=high packages

2001-05-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:54:17PM -0400, Dan Christensen wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If you don't mind downloading the packages, you can just use > > apt-listchanges. It will sort its output by urgency, and you can use that > > i

Re: upgrading only urgency=high packages

2001-05-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:27:56AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > Instead could you skip step 1 and do it: > > 1. apt-get install foo > 1.1 apt queries SQL server "SELECT * FROM packages WHERE package=foo, > architecture=i386, operatingsystem=linux" > 1.2 apt gets result, and installs package. > > Th

Re: package servers inconsistent?

2001-05-03 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 08:58:01PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > > What about stable? Removing the stable Packages file during an update > > would make it impossible to do a network install. > > > Not impossible. But the client would have to wait till the *.deb files have > been mirrored co

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-05-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:49:47PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 11:52:46PM +, Will Lowe wrote: > > > > > I think it's safe to assume that your system MUST have a working MTA > > > > > of some sort (even if it's local-only, which is

Re: Installing debs in ~user/ or /usr/local?

2001-05-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 10:00:14PM +0200, Egon Willighagen wrote: > maybe it is a stupid question, but can debian packages be installed in other > places than / ? > > I know that when the package is compiled the Makefile has a $DESTDIR > attribute, but is this preserved in the deb package? > >

Re: Installing debs in ~user/ or /usr/local?

2001-05-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 02:33:45PM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > One could use fakeroot to create a sort of virtual machine, in which regular > users can install packages as they please, but fakeroot doesn't support > chroot (yet?), and I'm beginning to think a better solution would be an > op

Re: Installing debs in ~user/ or /usr/local?

2001-05-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 05:47:21PM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > On Sat, 5 May 2001 19:01:03 -0400 Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should look into the S/390 port. > > The S/390 port is hardware specific. For obvious reasons (how many Debian > machin

Re: Caching Proxy for apt-get via http?

2001-05-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 07:54:17AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Does anybody out there know what is the problem here? Maybe its > the failure of Apache. What are your suggestions for running a > cache for apt-get? As far as I am aware, Apache's caching functionality is rather primitive. Try Squ

Re: Installing debs in ~user/ or /usr/local?

2001-05-06 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 02:15:58PM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 10:00:14PM +0200, Egon Willighagen wrote: > workaround: just extract the data.tar.gz where you want it. > > dpkg-home () { > [ "$1" ] || { echo "usage: $0 [dir_to_install]" >

Re: extra feature for debchange

2001-09-09 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 08:20:27PM -0400, Brandon L. Griffith wrote: > * Jason Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > take a look at apt-listchanges > > aha I knew it, yet another apt-* or dpkg-* utility I haven't heard of. I > need to keep more up to date on these things, or these utilities need

Re: A script to see how much a package is depended upon.

2001-09-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 02:43:36AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: > [snip binary package dependencies] > > The number of the *binary* packages that Build-Depends on a package: > ./analyse-sources.perl | sort -n -r > 5208 libncurses-dev > 5203 libgc5-dev > 5203 doxygen I suspect a bug here. I can onl

Re: A script to see how much a package is depended upon.

2001-09-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 09:06:04AM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: > libc6-dev (Source: glibc) has Build-Depends: gcc-3.0-sparc64 [sparc] . > gcc-3.0-sparc64 (Source: gcc-3.0) has Build-Depends-Indep: doxygen . You are correct. I had overlooked Build-Depends-Indep in my manual scan. -- - mdz

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-12 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 10:51:04PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote: > Question regarding this new bug on procmail-lib that I adopted recently: > > [snip copy of my bug report] > > I would happily move it to /usr/share, however I am worried about users > who are already using the current version. Use

Re: dpkg-source messages

2001-09-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 03:53:26PM +0100, Nick Phillips wrote: > I wonder whether anyone can point me at a likely cause for a slightly > worrying list of messages I'm getting from dpkg-source when using > dpkg-buildpackage to build a multi-binary package... during the build > I get: If you put th

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 10:12:35PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 12:53:49AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > Would turning /usr/lib/procmail-lib into a symlink to the appropriate > > > location be acceptable? > > > > This, in particula

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 10:50:42PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 04:18:22PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > ...and the new prerm remove it, and future versions of these scripts > > until the end of ti^W^W^Wrelease after next... > > Actually, if you&#x

Re: problems with binary NMU and apt

2001-09-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 07:41:21AM +0200, Gerhard Tonn wrote: > On Saturday 15 September 2001 07:29, you wrote: > > In my case it's esound-common, which in turn makes the entire gnome tree > > not installable. > > Most of the esound packages have a 'esound-common (>= ${Source-Version})' > depende

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 06:34:38PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 08:24:32PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > We can't really expect the admins to parse through hundreds of > > changelogs; README.Debian would be a good place, though. > > OTOH, apt-listchanges displays the chan

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:18:39PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 07:46:52PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > Currently, most users probably don't read README.Debian unless they have > > a good reason, so while it's the correct place to put things l

Re: Issue with Bug#112121: procmail-lib: Recipes belong in /usr/share, not /usr/lib

2001-09-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:44:23PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 10:30:21PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > It's not that hard to do this for a single package, but it is a completely > > different matter to do it by hand for every newly-installed p

Re: OCELOT SQL DBMS is now free open source (fwd)

2001-09-18 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:36:59PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > I just came across this, perhaps someone is interested in packaging it. [...] > THE OCELOT SQL DBMS, a standard-SQL Windows package, is now There's little point in trying to package it until it's ported to Unix-land. -- - mdz

Re: madison

2001-09-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:52:37PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote: > madison seems to be what the debian.org webpage sports as the package > search over distributions. is it packaged? do you need someone to package > it? madison requires connectivity to a Debian database which is not publicly acces

Re: madison

2001-09-22 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 04:44:46PM +0200, Admar Schoonen wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 05:15:31PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > madison requires connectivity to a Debian database which is not publicly > > accessible, so it is only useful on a couple of internal Debian >

Re: madison

2001-09-23 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 12:14:29AM +0200, Admar Schoonen wrote: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 01:19:36PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > There's no need for a database unless you want to maintain multiple > > distributions out of cross-sections of the pool, as Debian doe

squirrelmail (Re: Why I can not go ahead with IMP?)

2001-09-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:13:26AM -0500, Scott Dier wrote: > I got sick of how nasty IMP was getting and moved to squirrelmail > recently. I dont think theres a package out there yet, nor do I know of a > tool to move IMP database-driven address books to squirrelmail's format > (yet). http://bu

Re: be my own official primary debian source

2001-12-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Dec 22, 2001 at 01:40:37PM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: > On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:42:52 -0800, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What I really want to know, is what script is run on the official > > mirrors that parses the pool directories and generates > > the Packages and Release files all on

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