Re: cvs.debian.org [Was: Using CVS for package development]

1997-05-28 Thread Jim Pick
> We are running cvs.debian.org over an ISDN line. Currently the only > code under it is the Deity project. > > I can make other source trees and set up other users if others want to > do distributed development this way. > > Unfortunately, I haven't been able to set up "world read access" yet

Re: long list of give away or orphaned packages

1997-05-28 Thread Jim Pick
> Im not dissing your work, its excellent ;) Just hoping things can be a > little more open... It seems like its getting to be an old boys club. > You guys are pretty mature compared to the IRC channels, but it seems that > already the administration is top heavy, taking away a lot of coding/dev

Re: default file perms

1997-05-28 Thread Jim Pick
dpkg-cert already does something like this. Klee is going to fold the capabilities of dpkg-cert into dpkg, so I think a solution is on the horizon. :-) We just have to wait patiently for Klee and his upcoming proposal to overhaul dpkg. Cheers, - Jim pgpD2sxtAmlaW.pgp Description: PGP sig

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-29 Thread Jim Pick
> Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > great. since i meet other debian developers at the linux congress, i my > > a big friend of a cvs server with all debian packages. does anyone have > > a server with enough hard disks and a good conection to run it ? > > Some problems arise

Re: Possible bug in dpkg-source? Possible fix?

1997-05-30 Thread Jim Pick
> I'm using dpkg-dev 1.4.0.17. The problem is that not just with > source packages I create. It is with all source packages I'm > downloading, e.g., hello. > > The type of error I'm getting is as follows: > > dpkg-source: failure: remove patch backup file > hello-1.3/debian/substvars.

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-06-01 Thread Jim Pick
> As for OSS -- I had the impression that if I submitted patches to make > the modules *accept* command line arguments, they wouldn't be > included. But yeah, if they're straight GPL'ed that's good enough; I > could still distribute such patches even if they weren't included. > (and actually, ev

cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Jim Pick
> yeah, cygwin32.dll is under the GPL. So? It's a DLL, like libc5 and > libc6 are... [the *only* thing I'm aware of that actually uses the > LGPL is libg++; it was as much of an experiment as anything, and I'm > not aware of any not-otherwise-free software taking advantage of those > terms...] J

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Jim Pick
> Two questions: (1) in what way is cygwin32.dll different from libc5.so > in this regard (since the license for both is the same: GPL) libc5 appears to be under the GPL, while libc6 appears to be under the LGPL. Weird. Does that mean that anything that is linked against libc5 has to be GPL'd?

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Jim Pick
> Yes, very limiting. The code actually cannot be linked statically! Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL. Cheers, - Jim pgp6b75kk1gUm.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick
> For some more perspective on the "interface" argument, go back and see > some of the flaming a year or two ago about the GNU "libmp" (multiple > precision integer math library.) Actually, I had a very similar polite argument with RMS via private e-mail (about linking Java libs with mixed GPL/LG

Re: [boldt@cardinal.math.ucsb.edu: Info package: .dsc missing. And: TkInfo]

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick
There already is a tkinfo package (version 1.3). cas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is listed as the maintainer. Cheers, - Jim pgpjw0BNcP82y.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick
> [ I've not been following this thread too closely, > so if I've got the wrong idea, please forgive me ] > > > The GPL is a very restrictive license. In many ways, it is just as > > restrictive as the Qt license. Particularily in the case of libraries, > > using it as Cygnus is doing (to ma

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > I really must admit I find the GPL very cryptic, it's hard to say exactly > what it means if you look at very small detail. I do think that it makes > sense however that you should be able to put RCS in a dll and link to the > dll. That depends, if you put it in a .dll, a

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick
> On Jun 2, Jim Pick wrote > > The cygwin.dll case in an example where the GPL is being used to restrict > > the > > rights of other people using the code so that they can't do something taboo > > such as charge money, while at the same time, reserving the rig

Re: the ncurses "brushfire" -- anybody want to take over the project?

1997-06-03 Thread Jim Pick
> The senior maintainers and copyright holders of ncurses (Zeyd benHalim > and myself) both feel very strongly that Thomas Dickey hijacked the > project in a way that was unethical, injurious to the interests of > the free-software community, and arguably flat-out illegal under our > license terms

Re: the ncurses "brushfire" -- anybody want to take over the project?

1997-06-03 Thread Jim Pick
I just wrote: > In addition, all of the programs > compiled against it should be moved out of the main distribution, > and into contrib. (I just noticed that dselect/dpkg falls into this category) This is not a good situation. Cheers, - Jim pgpPwqLOmli3A.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: the ncurses "brushfire" -- anybody want to take over the project?

1997-06-03 Thread Jim Pick
Eric S. Raymond wrote: > I don't yet know. I believe Debian's position on this is (a) > unreasonable, and (b) not even internally consistent. Are you going > to also cease immediately distributing all of the important software > released under the Artistic License and similar ones? I don't thin

Re: Debian's "Modify & Redistribute" Policy (was: the ncurses "brushfire")

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
Brian White wrote: > I agree with you on this. I personally believe that Debian should relax > this requirement about non-modifiable & redistributable code not being > suitable for the primary distribution. I've never seen how it helps any > cause other than sticking a finger in the eye of those

Re: 1.3 installation report

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
> I did find a serious problem after rebooting (ok, I could probably have > done this more subtle) the machine to start xdm. From reading several > debian related lists I already knew that xdm will break with shadow > passwords. However, I doubt if everyone who just installed debian 1.3 will > rea

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
> On Jun 2, Jim Pick wrote > > Just so you understand why I'm so interested - I'm working on porting dpkg > > to cygwin32. > > Porting or re-implementing? If it's a port, dpkg is already under > gpl, so cygwin32 being under gpl shouldn't be an issu

Re: Debian's "Modify & Redistribute" Policy (was: the ncurses "brushfire")

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
> Well, it's fine for the author to _require_ that modifications in the > program be returned to the author. It's just not acceptable for the > author to not allow modifications to be distributed. I don't think we should accept licenses that require modifications to be returned to the author, or

Re: Debian's "Modify & Redistribute" Policy (was: the ncurses "brushfire")

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
> Regarding the assignment of copyright, I took that out of the draft > document. Yay! I knew you were a good guy! :-) Cheers, - Jim pgptBXGtMKzg2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Postgres95/PostgreSQL

1997-06-08 Thread Jim Pick
John Goerzen wrote: > Back in March, Siggy had indicated that he would be taking over > PostgreSQL development (the Postgres95 package currently in Debian is > now very out-of-date). I e-mailed him about this and got no response. Back on May 7, Siggy posted the following: > Hi all, > > after lo

Re: jdk1.1 - no dynamic Motif linkage package

1997-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
> Jim, > > why didn't you upload shared Motif library version of jdk1.1-runtime? > I just wonder if there is any reason for that. > > Thanks. > > Alex Y. The jdk1.1-runtime package can be used either way - read the /usr/doc/jdk1.1/README.linux.gz file for details. You can use a shared Motif

Re: New package notices via bug tracking system.

1997-06-11 Thread Jim Pick
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The real reason I'm replying to this: I wonder what the other developers > > think about bug reports that just say a new version is available (as opposed > > to, a new version is available, and fixes this nasty bug). > I think it's a good idea. I don'

Re: Status of Debian Policy

1997-06-15 Thread Jim Pick
> > All packages that provide HTML documentation should register these > > documents to the menu system, too. Check out section section 4.1, `Web > > servers and applications' for details. > > Is that as well as registering with dwww? I'm changing the way documents register themse

Gone for a week

1997-06-15 Thread Jim Pick
I'm going to be away from my computer for approximately a week, while I travel to Vancouver and Nanaimo (B.C., Canada) on business. I probably won't be able to fetch my mail. Unfortunately, I slipped behind schedule for a few things - so I won't be uploading the "experimental" version of dwww to

Re: FW: [NTSEC] (Fwd) DESCHALL Press Release

1997-06-22 Thread Jim Pick
> > I suggest to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] as common identifier for Debian > > friends. In case we get the money (why should we ?) I suggest to pass > > 50% to Linux International and keep 50% for Debian. > > Please use an address at Linux International, not one in the Debian > domain. It is not our

Re: FW: [NTSEC] (Fwd) DESCHALL Press Release

1997-06-23 Thread Jim Pick
> People did complain that we were promoting Debian to the > detriment of Linux. Yes - but remember, some of the people participating in these contests were acting pretty infantile. Instead of focusing on solving the problem, they want their team to be at the top of the list at all costs, inclu

Re: FW: [NTSEC] (Fwd) DESCHALL Press Release

1997-06-23 Thread Jim Pick
> I have some computers up running in that challenge and I could easily > contribute there output to the debian group, if we are going to have > one. > > So will we have one, or will we do it each one by himself? It's up to you - nobody's really organized anything. Some people are already run

Re: Moving away from MD5

1997-06-23 Thread Jim Pick
Thomas Koenig wrote: > I think we should start moving away from MD5 as our main hash function. > An attractive alternative would be RIPEMD-160. > http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~bosselae/ripemd160.html This is probably a good thing to agree to do, before Klee redesigns dpkg to handle verificatio

Documentation stuff

1997-06-28 Thread Jim Pick
Hi! Sorry for being absent from most of the conversation, and not getting my latest release of dwww out... - I was working in Vancouver last week, came back, got sick, one of my main modems burnt out (lightning?), I replaced it, upgraded my server, messed up PPP, didn't configure the modem corr

Re: fixhrefgz - tool for converting anchors to gzipped files

1997-06-28 Thread Jim Pick
[ I hate to wade into this, but ] > >However, as you surely know, this does not work without web server, since > >the browsers are not looking for "foo.html.gz" if "foo.html" is > >referenced. > > Yes. But if you change the references then the web-serverws will no longer > do on the fly dec

Re: Documentation stuff

1997-06-28 Thread Jim Pick
> I really want the glimpse searching that TkMan has, but within the > XEmacs interface. `dwww' has it, but for some reason it does not find > as many manual entries as Tkman does for the same search. I wonder > why? Perhaps a generalized perl script (or pull the tcl out of tkman > that does i

Re: Documentation stuff

1997-06-28 Thread Jim Pick
Karl wrote: > > Can't apache do that? I think there's a mod-rewrite that will do > > what we need. Though I suppose not everyone runs apache... You tell > > me and we'll both know. I think it's a good idea to have a > > light-weight server that can launch from xinetd. I wrote: > The only way

Re: fixhrefgz unnecessary when fixing web-browsers in the correct wayR

1997-06-29 Thread Jim Pick
> >You can't fix the browsers, because we don't have the source for important > >browsers like netscape. > > You mean the Debian Project caving in and changing its standards because > some non free product cannot be changed? Where is our commitment to free > software? We shouldn't be changing

Re: Sub-categorizing the /usr/doc directory.

1997-06-29 Thread Jim Pick
One complication I can think of - dselect and the ftp sites have the concept of "overrides", where Guy can change the section a package is assigned to. This wouldn't be reflected in the /usr/doc directory - of course, this might not really matter. Cheers, - Jim pgpkROZcuIbKB.pgp Description

Re: fixhrefgz unnecessary when fixing web-browsers in the correct wayR

1997-06-29 Thread Jim Pick
> I only advocated this as a compromise. I am for #1. And I would go further > and abolish all compression everywhere. Compression should only be done if > its transparent for all apps (e2compr or zlib?). I have seen so many > broken packages because of manpage compression etc etc. The clean solut

Re: fixhrefgz unnecessary when fixing web-browsers in the correct wayR

1997-06-29 Thread Jim Pick
> > I just did a "du -s /usr/doc" on my 386DX/33 (8MB RAM, 2-200MB HD) - and > > it only has 11MB of docs installed. So uncompressing those isn't going > > to kill me - I'm sure most other people using old hardware have similar > > usage. > > > > Who objects? > > I do. > text/html/ps usua

Re: fixhrefgz unnecessary when fixing web-browsers in the correct wayR

1997-06-30 Thread Jim Pick
> Hi, > > Also, 11M may not be a typical install. I get a far higher number: > __> du -s /usr/doc > 92026 /usr/doc > > Uncompressing this is very likely to annoy me. 11M was for my old 386 box (no X installed) - I'm only using about 200M total on that system. That works out to ab

debian-non-US mirrors (was Re: debmake)

1997-06-30 Thread Jim Pick
> I couldnt help but notice that there are no Canadian or even American > (South or Central) mirrors of debian with the non-us category. Actually, I do have one on my server (in Canada): ftp://ftp.jimpick.com/pub/mirrors/debian-non-US/ Canada doesn't have a NSA-like organization that has to pr

Re: Vision of new installation method using webserver

1997-06-30 Thread Jim Pick
Sounds slick. It wouldn't be too hard to do. It would be slick to have some more network smarts (like DHCP, and dialup to an ISP) on the boot disks (or some variant thereof). As for configuration via the web - check out the GPL'd Java telnet applet I've got installed on my webserver (http://ww

Re: Debian GNU/Linux Logo chosen

1997-12-02 Thread Jim Pick
> The logo I chose is > > http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/profile/si02.html Good choice. You forgot to give some credit to the artist (Simon?) though. Do you think SPI should trademark it? What sort of licensing do you think would be best? What does the original

Re: going to package e

1997-12-04 Thread Jim Pick
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I intend to package the beta enlightenment window manager, imlib, and > the default themes. If anyone wants to do it instead, I'll happily > fall back to kibitz mode -- let me know. Lalo Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did a package of beta 12, back in Augu

Thread safe X libs?

1997-12-10 Thread Jim Pick
Check out the forwarded message below. I get the same error using Debian unstable. Does this mean that Red Hat has thread-safe X libs and we don't? Cheers, - Jim --- Begin Message --- On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Sascha Ziemann wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/szi$ phaser_chess > warning -- no way

Re: Thread safe X libs?

1997-12-10 Thread Jim Pick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark W. Eichin) writes: > > Check out the forwarded message below. I get the same error using > > Debian unstable. Does this mean that Red Hat has thread-safe X libs > > and we don't? > > Well, I wouldn't mistake that for a bug report... no indication of > *what* is produci

ldconfig warnings

1997-12-21 Thread Jim Pick
Hi, This is a minor annoyance, but it always bothers me. When upgrading or reconfiguring, I chronically end up with "orphaned" lines in /etc/ld.so.conf. ie. Currently, on my main Pentium system... ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libgtk.so.1.0 (No such file or directory), skippin

Re: ldconfig warnings

1997-12-22 Thread Jim Pick
> Yes, it is discussed in the Debian Packaging Manual, section 12. > See: > /usr/doc/dpkg/packaging.html/ch-sharedlibs.html > > You should just go ahead and file bugs against packages which don't > include the .so link as part of the package. If I understand this correctly, there is no need to

Re: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender (fwd)

1997-12-27 Thread Jim Pick
> I don't know if this is a bug with procmail(3.10.7-1.5), exim (1.81-1), or > me, so I thought I would ask. I recently switched to exim from smail on my > hamm (currently as up to date as possible) which unfortunately bounced all > of my mail. It seems that exim doesn't like the mail filter pipe

Re: slib and Debian ?

1997-12-27 Thread Jim Pick
[ Sorry for the exploding cc: list - this is a Debian packaging issue, so please limit the follow-ups to debian-devel. ] Mark Galassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jim> Perhaps I should declare a dependency on the slib package, > > Absolutely not! It would be a great loss if Guile were *

Re: Financial support

1998-01-02 Thread Jim Pick
> Pardon me for a nosy question. Does Debian have any money flowing in > from users that is used to compensate full-time Debian developers? Debian does solicit donations to Bruce Peren's "Software in the Public Interest, Inc." non-profit to help defray costs (like Internic fees, etc.). Here's a

Re: dhelp 0.2 - a online help system

1998-01-02 Thread Jim Pick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I like it but... I like it too. > 1) How about dwww? (Yes, I know dwww needs a web server...) I think I'll add support for .dhelp files to dwww too. > 2) I really dont like to have 2/3/... methods of building indexes > of documentation installed in the debian syst

The next dwww (was Re: Financial support)

1998-01-02 Thread Jim Pick
> > Look for an updated dwww package and a new "kaffe+kore" package this week > > > Yuhuu! > > Is it the version with the "big step forward", you promised some time ago? Unfortunately, not. It's more of a "fix as many of the 40 bugs as possible" release. It'll be a

Re: Bleeding edge FTP repository updated to glibc2 + egcs.

1998-01-02 Thread Jim Pick
Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anybody already noted this here? [ Cut - Posting about Yggdrasil packages - RPM/deb/slackware/yggdrasil from common source ] Looks interesting! I wonder if they are proposing a new source packaging format - or if they are building all the b

dwww Missing-in-action

1998-01-06 Thread Jim Pick
Sorry, For those holding their breath... I had system problems this weekend. I'll have dwww ready next weekend. Cheers, - Jim pgpFTRhdIqcvr.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Guile question: What was bug #14213???

1998-04-07 Thread Jim Pick
the bug was in under ten lines of description. > > guile (1.2-3) unstable; urgency=low > > * Removed --with-threads and --enable-dynamic-linking options > (should fix #14213, 14214 - Thanks John Goerzen) > * Added ldconfig to postinst > Fixes Bug #41212 -

Re: Number of Maintainers

1998-04-10 Thread Jim Pick
Brian Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After both Manoj Srivastava and Bob Hilliard pointed out to me the faults > in using the Maintainers file for determining the number of maintainers, I > have decided to use the Debian PGP keyring. After deleting duplicate keys, > the keyring says that

Re: jdk1.1-runtime

1998-04-10 Thread Jim Pick
Corey Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When I try to install jdk1.1-dev (I want to install JavaICQ, which > makes use of the jdk), it says that it depends on jdk1.1-runtime. I was > wondering where I could find this package? I looked in incoming, frozen, > unstable, and even used the pa

Re: intent to package jstation

1998-04-15 Thread Jim Pick
Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bummer! I can't help here unfortunately (I'm a jdk source licencee) but > I thought Jim Pick had expressed an intention of persuing free JVM > implementations. > > Jim? I'm freeing up the rest of this week, so I w

Re: /tmp exploits

1998-04-20 Thread Jim Pick
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We should modify our libc so that opening a file in /tmp or /var/tmp - > determined by simple string comparison of the filename passed to > open(2) - fails if O_CREAT is specified without O_EXCL. > > We should do this in slink. That way almost any progr

Re: Gnome debs?

1998-04-20 Thread Jim Pick
David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > GNOME is currently not very stable and things are changing very > > rapidly. Jim Pick is the GNOME guy for Debian. Give it a few more > > weeks and I think you will see more. I've got most of the packaging for gnome 0

Re: on forming a new Linux Distributionx

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > From: Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For what it's worth, GIF support is doable with free software, just not > > compressed gifs. [gif supports a variety of compression mechanisms, > > including "none".] > > The patent expires in August. > >

Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
Hi all, I read with interest Bruce's post that he wants to work on another Linux distribution. :-) As long as we are talking "pie in the sky" stuff, I thought I'd let loose with the news that I am also developing an alternative Linux distribution. I've sort of hinted about it on several of my

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, May 01, 1998 at 11:10:39PM -0700, Jim Pick wrote: > > > - targetted towards desktop use only, no server apps, just a few games > > > > - minimal size - optimized for installation via 28.8k modem via FTP, &g

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
Drake Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1 May 1998, Jim Pick wrote: > > > I'd like to see more people announce that they want to develop their > > own "subset" Linux distributions based on Debian. I'd be willing to > > collaborate on to

Re: Time to say goodbye...

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The discussions of the last days have shown me clearly, that I can't > implement my ideas WRT policy/QA anymore. > Therefore, I've decided to leave the Debian project. Sorry to see you leave. I must admit, I've been entirely negligent in followin

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think smail or exim would do fine. I'm in love with exim myself. :-) The whole exim package is about 500k, which only takes 5 minutes or so to download via modem - so I'd probably stick with that (unless something better comes along). MTA choices

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-02 Thread Jim Pick
John Labovitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > The whole exim package is about 500k, which only takes 5 minutes or so > > to download via modem - so I'd probably stick with that (unless > > something better comes alo

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-03 Thread Jim Pick
> > What news servers besides slrn support reading news directly from the news > > spool w/o a news server? > > tin (rather than tin -r or rtin). Gnus (in emacs). Cheers, - Jim pgppKPgXPsA90.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#4592: xemacs: can't resolve symbol 'xbitmap'

1996-09-25 Thread Jim Pick
xemacs worked until this morning, when I used dselect to upgrade some packages. Now, when I type xemacs, I get: fleming:~$ xemacs xemacs: can't resolve symbol 'xbitmap' xemacs: can't resolve symbol 'xbitmap' xemacs: can't resolve symbol 'xbitmap' xemacs: can't resolve symbol 'xbitmap' xemacs: ca

Re: Packages that still need a maintainer

1996-09-26 Thread Jim Pick
> Hi I still have a few packages left that need a new maintainer. > ... > > rxvt > ircii > tf > mandelspawn > xtron > > Andrew > I guess it's time that I learned how to put together a Debian package - now that I've finally been able to subscribe to the debian-devel list. Sign me up for m

Re: PGP?

1996-09-29 Thread Jim Pick
> Didn't we use to have a PGP package? > I noticed that it disappeared a few days ago too. What's up? Did I miss an announcement or something? - Jim -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
> > Please clarify - unpacking a Debian source package is different > > than unpacking an upstream source package (which may require tar, > > unzip, zoo, lha, jar, etc.). Right? Andy Mortimer wrote: > Personally, I'd be inclined to disagree here, especially given [1.5] > below. If I've gone to

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
> Jim Pick wrote: > > Even if we wrote one, I doubt the KDE guys, especially Matthias Ettrich, > > would > > be willing to use it. Really an unfortunate situation, IMHO. :-( Noel Maddy wrote: > Berate me for missing the obvious, but couldn't KDE just be compiled

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
> On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: > > > If someone wants to contribute to an effort to clone a toolkit, they'd > > probably be much better off contributing to the WINE project (Windows > > emulator) or Jolt project (Java clone - kaffe, biss-awt, guavac, etc.).

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
> How about where part of the upstream archive could go into the main > distribution, but part needs to go into non-free or non-US, even for the > sources? > > That's a case where you _must_ repack the original archive. > > > MfG Kai No. I'd just say upload the upstream sources to the non

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
Tom Lees wrote: > This gets more complicated. To allow for cross-compiling or bootstrapping, > some packages need to be compilable using the Source from another package, > so eg:- > > SrcPackage: xmp > Depends: awe-drv | src.awe I don't think it adds any complexity if upstream source packages,

Re: dpkg verify mode for security?

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
> Hi, > > I was asking over Linux-ISP about doing cleanup after breakins and got > many "use tripwire" answers, and one which says that RPM has a verify > mode which checks for files which were changed since they were > installed. Can the dpkg maintainers consider adding such a feature > for Deb

Re: --> Debian Bug #10000

1997-05-21 Thread Jim Pick
> > In case you're interessed, I just got the acknowledgement of bug report > #1 (which happen to be a documentation buglet in package qt-doc). > *cracks open a virtual beer* _(; > > Out of those ~1 bug reports, about 2200 are still outstanding. Congratulations. BTW, if you believe th

Re: --> Debian Bug #10000

1997-05-21 Thread Jim Pick
This might be a mini-project for someone: I'd like to see a graph of the total number of bugs, number of open bugs plotted on a graph vs. the date. Perhaps superimposing the release dates on it too. It would be cool if we could somehow track the number of machines/users we had too. I checked

Re: --> Debian Bug #10000

1997-05-21 Thread Jim Pick
> > (looks like we beat Red Hat, go figure...) > > Much more CDs of RedHat have probably been sold than Debian CDs, and > people installing from CDs may not have internet access and not register > with the linux counter? Also that's only statistics... I just thought it was neat. Anyways, the

Re: copyright question for abuse

1997-05-21 Thread Jim Pick
> Crack dot Com has decided to release abuse as public domain software. So no > more a.out abuse, once I get the new one built. But I do have a couple of > questions about their copyright: > > This release is to the public domain, meaning there are very few > restrictions in on use. But here a

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-26 Thread Jim Pick
Galen Hazelwood wrote: > This is a legitimate version format. You failed to upgrade dpkg > before upgrading everything else. Fellow Debian developers, we > _really_ need to put up warnings that this needs to be done! Otherwise > innocent people will corrupt their systems by upgrading. Maybe w

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-26 Thread Jim Pick
I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it) Cheers, - Jim pgp1CVGyswT6R.pgp Description: PGP signature

Debian Gnome anxiety cure

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Pre-release .debs (still under construction). 24 of 'em, more to come. ftp://ftp.jimpick.com/pub/debian/testing/ Be fore-warned - they've hardly been tested. Also, the imlib packages aren't the real ones - they're just quick hacks so I could compile the rest. Sean Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Corel Network Computer Port

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 21:20 -0700 1998-06-05, Steve Dunham wrote: > >Does anyone have any definite information on the Corel Network > >computers? Is anyone else interested in doing a Debian port? > > Vincent Renardias is apparently working on an arm port of Debian (In bu

Re: Corel Network Computer Port

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I bet we could brow-beat Corel into donating a few boxes. I heard > > they go as cheap as $300 US for a diskless configuration. > > It's all just rumors, I've heard nothing back from them. We might > have to brow-beat them into selling boxes. You

Re: Corel Network Computer Port

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Behan Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > They are only giving discounts to OCLUG members, but since I'm in OCLUG, > I could probably approach the appropriate people to do some enquiries. > I wouldn't hold your breath though. OCLUG is very RedHat based. I've talked to some of the Corel guys

Re: Corel Network Computer Port

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Steve Dunham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When/if they are ready and Corel doesn't want to sell them directly, > someone like varesearch or linuxmall could be convinced to become > resellers. (Or even Red Hat would be interesting...) Even non-traditional channels could resell them (as long as

Re: Corel Network Computer Port

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Behan Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I also have an offer from one of Brian's friends (he was lent one of the > Netwinders). He is willing to give a few people accounts on his > Netwinder. He just has a few security concerns to address first (he's > got to pick up a hub to connect the Ne

Re: [Fwd: Debian Netwinders]

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Behan Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Looks like you guys can talk to Chris or San directly about Netwinder > development if you wish. I just phoned Chris Herrnberger (the OCLUG guy), and quizzed him. He says Corel has loaned OCLUG ten Netwinders for development purposes. If we want to g

Re: [Fwd: Debian Netwinders]

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As for the machines, he says the developers versions are the > top-of-the-line model, with a 3.1 GB hard drive and 64 MB of RAM. I > think they are based on a 233MHz StrongARM. ^^ Oops, make that a 275MH

ANNOUNCE: Debian NetWinder Porting Project

1998-06-09 Thread Jim Pick
Hi, I'm helping to organize an effort to port Debian GNU/Linux to run on the new Corel NetWinder NCs ( http://www.corelcomputer.com/ ). Debian GNU/Linux is the largest Linux distribution, with over 1500 packages and ports to Intel, Alpha, m68k, PowerPC and Sparc. It is being developer entirely

Gnome .debs released

1998-06-18 Thread Jim Pick
Hi, I've uploaded the Gnome 0.20 Debian packages to incoming on master.debian.org (also available at http://www.jimpick.com/ ) I had some problems with the gnome-admin package, so I didn't finish it. I will be travelling for 4 days, and I will figure it out when I am back. I also did not packag

Re: New gnome packages

1998-06-22 Thread Jim Pick
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am I correct that we currently do not have a complete desktop with gnome? > Since there is no wm yet, it's pretty difficult to judge it. This is a Gnome FAQ item. Gnome is not meant to have a single window manager. In it's final form, it will work w

Re: gnome again

1998-06-22 Thread Jim Pick
"Meskes, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Okay, I tried starting icewm and then some gnome applets resp. some of > the desktop tools. But they all seg fault. And I get a message that > imlib is lacking the file in /usr/etc. Do I have to set an environment > variable? > > I think we should

Re: gnome again

1998-06-22 Thread Jim Pick
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I should probably add that to the README - and maybe a note to try > > running "panel" to get to all the other applications. Anything else I > > should put into

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-03 Thread Jim Pick
Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After you freeze slink, what will be then name of the new 'unstable' > release (debian 2.2 or 3.0 that is). If "Bug's Life" is any good, maybe we could snarf names from there... Cheers, - Jim

Re: Imlib NMU

1998-10-05 Thread Jim Pick
(RedHat does use the the upstream soname.) Until somebody gets around > > to releasing a "libjpeg62" package, we should stick with libjpeg6a. > Oooh. Interesting snag. So. We need to make a joint decision. I talked > to Jim Pick last night about putting 6b in slink, and ge

Re: [TECH-CONTACTS] Debian

1998-10-07 Thread Jim Pick
Andrew Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 11:49:26PM +0800, Stephen Darragh wrote: > > Is there any way to get Debian to rebuild or repair a corrupted > > package information database (e.g. on beldin)? > > Not that I know of unfortunately. I'll ask on debian-devel as th

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