Re: Bug#295328: general: Help messages to stderr should be banned

2005-02-15 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:06:30PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: [...] > I occasionally install a program and need to know how to use it as > quickly as possible; for example, while reading through bug reports. > So, I run foo --help. Sometimes, the help screen is more than 25 > lines long, and it s

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

2005-06-06 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:00:47PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:45:11PM +0200, Martin Braure de Calignon wrote: > > Le lundi 06 juin 2005 à 14:28 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis a écrit : > > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > Ummm, I think you've missed my point. The threa

Testing packages: Smurf and libsndfile

2000-08-31 Thread H. S. Teoh
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Re: RFC: moving packages to project/orphaned

2000-09-04 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 12:56:59AM +0200, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 06:55:16PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > The follwing packages need a new maintainer: > ... > > mctools-lite (69638), 12 days old > ... > > rosegarden (68189), 33 days old > ... > > My s

Re: Should this be filed as grave? Gcc-2.95

2003-08-05 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 07:59:20AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:54:38 -0400 > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't compile your kernel with gcc 3.3. I don't know whether the bugs lie > > in the kernel or in gcc (or both), but this combination does not work > > co

Re: Should this be filed as grave? Gcc-2.95

2003-08-05 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 08:43:36AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:06:26 -0400 > "H. S. Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did you check your compile logs to see if it actually compiled with > > gcc-2.95 or with just gcc (==3.3) ? It happened

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for August 8, 2003

2003-08-08 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 06:30:03AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote: > Bug stamp-out list for Aug 8 06:00 (CST) > > Total number of release-critical bugs: 822 [snip] Whoa, sounds like time for another BSP! T -- The easy way is the wrong way, and the hard way is the stupid way. Pick one.

Re: configure web proxy via DHCP server

2003-08-29 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:01:42PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > Is this possible? > > It would be really "cool"(tm) if I didn't have to reconfigure every > program on my laptop to use a different proxy server every time I plug > it into a different network. > > Just venting my irritation for the day

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-22 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 04:53:16PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > helps catching 95%... But the bandwidth is still used... I'm still looking > > for > > a pure MTA solution... > > A pure MTA solution would still need to scan the body and thus would still > eat you

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-22 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:18:56PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 19:34:58 -0400 > "H. S. Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've resorted to blocking port 25 to subnets from which these spams > > What would help is to be able to block

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-23 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:46:15PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:44:50 -0400 > "H. S. Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another major source is rr.com, which not only gives me tons of Swen, but > > also other spam in general. I'v

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-23 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 02:31:22PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:34:58PM -0400, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > I've resorted to blocking port 25 to subnets from which these spams > > originate. Currently I have about 45 subnets (/24 and a few /16) on my >

Re: The size of debian packages

2003-09-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 10:34:31PM +0100, Andrew Lyon wrote: [snip] > a little to liberally in the past!). How can I find out the sizes of the > packages and try to establish what I can remove without disaster. I tried > using deborphan to do this but it didn't even put a dent in my 100% full > v

Re: developers Japanese and Chinese names' original characters

2003-10-03 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 04:40:57AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Where is a list of Asian developers' names in their original > characters? I don't remember entering my name in any such list...? > The best I can do right now is e.g. grep /usr/share/edict/enamdict to guess > from the romanization.

Re: Bits of the gnome 1.x removal effort

2008-02-11 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 03:43:38PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: [...] > As a side note, those packages have spurious build-dependencies on > gnome1.x libraries (and have no corresponding runtime dependencies), > bugs will be filed soon: [...] Also, on a related note, while preparing glotski

Re: New package containing binaries with same name as some from the packages cons, pscan and hsffig.

2007-05-28 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:15:31PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear Hwei, Uwe and John, > > I did not manage to contact you in private (see below), therefore by > policy 10.1 I have to move the discussion on debian-devel (copy sent > to debian-med). We (the members of the pkg-emboss project on

Re: Bug#214036: im: imput doesn't work with Perl 5.8.1

2003-10-21 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 02:10:15PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Steve Kemp wrote: > > > The following change makes the code work as expected: > > Your change works as expected, but only because the file has just one line. > It's not a general solution. > > The general solution is not to

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces (was Re: Programming first steps.)

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:47:34AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: [snip] > I have a love-hate relationship with the significant whitespace. I have a hate-hate relationship with it. I much prefer free-style syntax where the programmer is allowed to use his best judgment on how to indent the code. Of c

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces (was Re: Programming first steps.)

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:07:35PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:19:02PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > > For personal pet projects, I use 2 spaces per nesting level. Some people > > think that's Pure Evil(tm), > > Most noteably perh

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces (was Re: Programming first steps.)

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:29:52PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:19:02PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > Also, as an off-topic note, blank lines that contain tabs or spaces > > are Pure Evil(tm), especially in code. One of these days I should > >

[OT] Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:28:29AM +0800, Isaac To wrote: > >>>>> "H" == H S Teoh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > H> That would mean 95% of non-trivial XSLT stylesheets would need to be > H> rewritten... > > Or perhaps the XSLT langu

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces (was Re: Programming first steps.)

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:14:04PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > H. S. Teoh wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:29:52PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote: [snip] > >>Python did away with that requirement for scope in 2.x. If you want to > >>use blank lines for code logic sepa

Re: Programming first steps.

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:47:22PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] > With that said let me give you the biggest hint on learning any vi > variant: When in doubt, slap the ESC key. The commands and controls will > come in time but all of that doesn't mean a thing if you're in edit mode > whe

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-17 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:43:40AM +0800, Isaac To wrote: [snip] > H> That's because the terminal settings are b0rked. I personally delete > H> all programs that cannot cut-n-paste without messing up tabs and > H> spaces. Unfortunately, this happens a lot on the Winbloxe desktop at >

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:45:52AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 08:56:49PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > | Nevertheless, I find 8-space indentation too wasteful, 4-space > | indentation too cumbersome to type, and 1-space indentation > | unreadable. &

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:34:14PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 07:57:46PM -0800, Joshua Kwan wrote: > > Hear, hear. Yes, 8-space indentation is a matter of pressing the Tab > > key, but it's a bit too big.. I've always stuck with two spaces. > > So set your tabstop (and

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:13:46AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:00:18AM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > > VIM can do autoindenting for some languages too. Works OK with Perl, > > > and C, and badly with Tcl (but doesn't everything?). > >

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:26:37PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:04:54PM +0100, Florent Rougon wrote: > > If you are not able to use a programmer's editor, I fail to see how you > > can even try to argue about the usefulness of Python's whitespace > > handling. > > Yay!

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 04:41:34PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > I swore that I wasn't going to get into the latest style war, but ... > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:55:38AM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:45:52AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > &g

Re: Tabs v.s. spaces

2003-11-18 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:04:48AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > H. S. Teoh wrote: > >Yeah, 'whitespace' about sums up the value of it. Except to Python > >programmers, of course. :-P :-P > > Quite the contrary. First off generally flames are from the > u

Pathological case for Debian packages search page

2002-11-21 Thread H. S. Teoh
This package: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html never shows up when you search for "the" in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like "the" :-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to

Re: New maintainer process

2002-11-22 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:54:17PM +, Colin Watson wrote: [snip] > Never underestimate the power of Google's cache. :-) [snip] "Real men don't take backups. They put their source on a public FTP-server and let the world mirror it." -- Linus Torvalds ;-) T -- The peace of mind--from knowin

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-22 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:23:09PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Branden Robinson [Fri, Nov 22 2002, 10:34:21AM]: > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:20:04AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > > > (1) Why are you blatently insulting people on the lists?? > > > > Why are you blatanly misspelling "b

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:10:44PM -0700, James Hamilton wrote: > I'm curious why system users such as bin, sys, and nobody have /bin/sh > as a shell instead of a noshell program or /bin/false. [snip] Possibly because otherwise, you cannot run any shell scripts as that user. (This may also app

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 09:53:22PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:39, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:10:44PM -0700, James Hamilton wrote: > > > I'm curious why system users such as bin, sys, and nobody have /bin/sh > > >

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:42:34PM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:34:52PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > But there are programs that don't use su -s. E.g., custom logins > > (non-anonymous) from wu-ftpd will fail if the login shell is set to > >

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:24:54PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:34:52PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > But there are programs that don't use su -s. E.g., custom logins > > (non-anonymous) from wu-ftpd will fail if the login shell is set to > > /

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 06:32:13PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: [snip] > Now that somebody mentioned it -- will /bin/true work, or is that a > wishlist feature? [snip] Oops, nevermind that. That'll teach me to respond before I read. :-P T -- MAS = Mana Ada Sistem?

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-26 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 01:41:21PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: [snip] > No, it doesn't. It shows that the most frequently viewed distribution pages > on distrowatch.com are: > > 1) Mandrake > 2) Red Hat > 3) Gentoo > 4) Debian > > And the sample size is approximately 56000 page views. [snip] A

Intent to NMU: dvidvi

2002-11-26 Thread H. S. Teoh
I've tried to contact David A. van Leeuwen via two email addresses that are listed on BTS and db.d.o, regarding a possible NMU of his package, dvidvi. However, both emails bounced. Should I just go ahead and upload the NMU? T -- Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else. --

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: [snip] > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or > Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge. > Unfortunately, plenty of people are called that way. Any idea to > improve that line

Re: testing not getting updated?

2002-11-27 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:16:13AM +0530, Ganesan R wrote: > > Hi, > > Has any one else noticed that testing is not getting updated. According to > http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html.gz, the last run > was on Nov 20th. If this is intentional, I don't remember seeing any mail

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-02 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 04:39:30PM +0100, Jan Niehusmann wrote: [snip] > Time will tell. I fear that some day, the only way to use email > productively is to block all email with invalid sender adresses. And I > don't know a way do valdiate a (not yet known) address but to try it > and send a reply

Non-DFSG-free package in main

2002-12-02 Thread H. S. Teoh
I just noticed that 'heyu' is non-free, at least according to bug #149128. Shouldn't this bug be upgraded to serious, at least? (We shouldn't be shipping it in sarge if it's non-free.) T -- Why is a river rich? 'cos it has two banks. pgpR5R4ad4PdM.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Non-DFSG-free package in main

2002-12-02 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:47:18PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:19:47PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > I just noticed that 'heyu' is non-free, at least according to bug #149128. > > Shouldn't this bug be upgraded to serious, at least?

Re: keyserver.debian.org.com

2002-12-03 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 04:53:05PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: [snip] > > When it first occurred to someone that this sort of a trick could be > > played on people to hijack domains, an RFC came out specifying that > > hostname resolvers should NOT append the local TLD to the requeste

Re: Porting Xconfigurator to Debian!

2002-12-04 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:27:07PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 23:22, Michael Banck wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:13:18PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > > > Dunno how you feel about this, but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 > > > > works quite fine h

Re: description writing guide

2002-12-05 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:59:20PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: [snip] > > Ooh, goody :) Does this mean #45943 will finally be fixed? > > Well, we obviously can't force anyone to do anything; but I hope that > having the reasoning more clearly laid out will motivate people... [snip] Does submit

Intent to NMU: htget

2002-12-05 Thread H. S. Teoh
Hi Troy, It appears that your Debian package, htget, has not been updated for a long time, and there are some packaging issues with it. I have prepared an NMU of this package (from version 0.94 -- I was unable to find 0.93 and I needed a pristine upstream source to fix bug #44302). This NMU fixe

Re: Why is openoffice in Contrib?

2002-12-10 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:40:12PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:13:13PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > Secondly, since OpenOffice seems to be GPL'd, I am wondering why it is in > > contrib instead of main. > > Build-dependency on Java. [snip] Excuse me for butting

Re: Why is openoffice in Contrib?

2002-12-10 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:38:19PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 03:06:10PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: [snip] > > Excuse me for butting in here, but aren't there GPL'd Java compilers in > > main already? Or does OpenOffice require a non-DFSG Java c

Intent to NMU: grep

2002-12-10 Thread H. S. Teoh
Package: grep Severity: wishlist Hi Robert, I've applied some of the patches in BTS filed against grep, and have prepared an NMU which fixes the following bugs: #158134, #127438, #93193, #142206, #172524, #45943, #156479. The complete patch for the NMU is attached with this mail. Since you appe

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:11:16PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: [snip] > Joost Kooij > xbat [snip] FWIW, Joost responded to me last Nov (gee, has it been that long ago already? :-/) for NMU'ing xbat. If he still fails to respond, I could take over the package. T -- "Uhh, I'm still not here."

library build problems

2001-09-02 Thread H. S. Teoh
Hi all, I'm the maintainer of the libsndfile package, and I've noticed that there's been an NMU to fix a build problem. (Sorry for being absent ... got a job and have a lot less free time now.) Anyway, there's a new release, and I tried to update the package (from the NMU version) but now I'm havin