Re: Why do we list individual copyright holders?

2018-01-01 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 07:43:06PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 1 janvier 2018 17:47 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard  : > > >> I have very little time for Debian. Each time I update a package, I have > >> to bump Standards-Version and fix new Lintian warnings. I would > >> appreciate if we would ass

Re: Let's enable AppArmor by default (why not?)

2017-08-06 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 06:28:20PM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > intrigeri wrote... > > > tl;dr: I hereby propose we enable AppArmor by default in testing/sid, > > and decide one year later if we want to keep it this way in the > > Buster release. >

Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-12 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
Note: this post is not about certspotter at all, so I'm not Cc'ing the bug and changed the Subject line. On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 05:30:19PM -0400, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Stuff like s3cmd are tools connecting to cloud services. Arguably > usable to have tools to free data from the clouds. Whi

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-14 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:58:00AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > "Dr. Bas Wijnen" writes: > > > What seems to be the dispute is whether software that runs on a remote > > system is still "software" for the purpose of our rules. > > That is not in disp

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-18 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 08:46:43AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > The language is clear that it is talking about dependency in the sense > of requiring the program installed on the system in order for the > program to build or execute. I think the mention of package dependencies is an incomplete list

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-27 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 06:21:23PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 08/18/2017 10:36 AM, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > > Consider the following: unrar-nonfree contains some software which is > > non-free > > and can therefore not be in main. The reason we don't put it in mai

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-28 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 04:00:54PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 10:20:27AM +0000, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > > Let me put it differently then: for me, one of the major benefits of Debian > > over (most of) our derivatives is that I can set the system u

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-28 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:29:07PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:58:50AM +0000, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > > Are you saying that a Debian system where only main is enabled is unsafe? > [...] > > If that is correct, it is a huge problem that that is

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-28 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
I'm getting tired of this. You keep avoiding my questions and changing the subject. Unless you start answering my questions, I'm going to stop responding. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 02:21:01PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 08:55:43AM +0000, Dr. Bas

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-28 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
Thanks Philipp, unlike the mail I responded to a few minutes ago, yours is constructive and I'm happy to continue discussing this with you. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:31:15PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 08/27/2017 12:20 PM, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 06

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-31 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 09:15:01AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2017-08-28 at 07:59, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > > I think if someone wants to write a client with the purpose of > > interacting with a non-free service, that client should go in contrib > > and there is nothin

Re: Whether remotely running software is considered "software" for Debian.

2017-08-31 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 11:16:36AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > python-digitalocean, ruby-azure*, waagent, twittering-mode, > probably HBCI clients, python3-googleapi, > python3-pyicloud, python-yowsup, youtube-dl, > libgfbgraph-0.2-dev Thank you for this list. I removed servers that cannot r

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-29 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:13:52AM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:00:38PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > > they will most likely simply not understand the point, and what makes > > free hardware so much better. > > > massively encourage users to use non-free hardware

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-29 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 07:18:57PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 05:57:21PM +0000, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > > So we need to decide what we want. I think there probably is consensus > > about: > > > > - We want people with non-free hardware to

Re: salsa.debian.org (git.debian.org replacement) going into beta

2017-12-29 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 10:43:58PM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Fri, 29 Dec 2017, Philipp Kern wrote: > > Put a mapping into a git repository that DDs can push to? Make sure that > > it is fast-forwarded always? Then let people deal with it? > I am currently working on such a mapping. I appr