*** Important Notice ***

1995-12-16 Thread David Engel
var/lib/dpkg/info. This will prevent the libraries from being renamed when you upgrade. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release

1995-12-16 Thread David Engel
> David Engel writes ("Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release"): > > [ and earlier: ] > > > > The runtime package installs the shared libraries as lib*.so.3.0.new > > > > and then renames them to lib*.so.3.0 in the postinst script. This is > > > > fi

Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release

1995-12-18 Thread David Engel
-specific - it's just there to save disk space and > memory, and furthermore this is a critical package which we can't > leave broken. > > AFAIK only dpkg falls into category 3. Lots of things fall into > category 1, but they can do without special handling. > > Category 1 needs the link to be updated *with both libraries present*, > am I right ? David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Re: More ncurses...

1995-12-18 Thread David Engel
the scripts for doing these moves in something that's > guaranteed to never depend on the library. In this case, perl is the > obvious answer. > > Am I missing something? Yes, other packages may be being operated on during the same dpkg run and they may need bash. David -- D

Re: New ftp method for dselect

1995-12-18 Thread David Engel
site in the `binary' directory: > > --[-].deb > > Note the two hyphens. I missed the first part of this thread. Sorry. What is the resoning for this drastic change? David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1

Re: New ftp method for dselect

1995-12-18 Thread David Engel
file? It's needed by dselect anyway. Also, what about packages like ld.so where the file name doesn't match the package name (ldso)? What am I missing? David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Re: Parsing package filenames (was: Re: New ftp method for dselect)

1995-12-19 Thread David Engel
seems to me that changing the very few packages which don't already conform to such a naming scheme would be much less disruptive than renaming every package. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Re: ncurses-1.9.8a ELF release

1995-12-19 Thread David Engel
ct allow a package to be upgraded or replced with another and then left in an unconfigured state? Basically, what I'm concerned with is the time between an old package's postrm script being called and any new package's postinst being called. David -- David Engel

Re: why doesn't binutils-2.6-1 provide a shared library?

1995-12-19 Thread David Engel
namic symbols in a shared library that can not be stripped. You'll have to ask the binutils developers why they did this. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Re: why doesn't binutils-2.6-1 provide a shared library?

1995-12-20 Thread David Engel
the binutils > >developers why they did this. > > Ick. Would that be of the GNU package or of the linux shared library > specs (gcc folks). The GNU folks. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Updated gcc package

1995-12-21 Thread David Engel
2.deb 139c3c6fc8f137c86b4a24fe415a9ee3 gcc-2.7.2-2.tar.gz 2daf1b159a5754c4092b0792ecca5784 gcc-2.7.2-2.diff.gz abd797ac91b89a97cd1a0423dfeb7f00 gcc-2.7.2-2.deb -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234

Re: Lack of libtercap.so kills elf Accelerated X

1995-12-21 Thread David Engel
like to make a run-time only (i.e. no development support) package for it. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Updated binutils package

1995-12-21 Thread David Engel
ar.gz 4e5715df2876b592c72e2d2dbace1d9a binutils-2.6-2.diff.gz 03ea4a4b5b547a6e44389ea1c21546ca binutils-2.6-2.deb -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Re: Bug#2065: single user isn't

1995-12-26 Thread David Engel
his is a mistake and > backs it off in 5.2.20. Such a change should go into libc 5.3 > > Does anybody know more about this? No, but I've forwarded this to H.J. Lu. He's in the process of moving cross country though, so I don't know when or if he'll get it. David --

Re: ftp.debian.org?

1995-12-31 Thread David Engel
the debian directory has suddenly moved (at least logically) from /debian to /debian.org/ftp/debian. I don't know if a symlink was deleted or chroot is being/not being called differently, but something has changed. This is a major problem for anyone who uses an absolute p

New expect package

1996-01-03 Thread David Engel
7a6680b826b44271313413f009708635 expect-5.18.1-1.deb -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Re: Debian ALPHA-TEST Acct/Pass

1996-01-04 Thread David Brinks
ngs. For right now you can just retreive it via the buster login and traverse the sub-trees to the location. David David Brinks - Assist Sys Admin. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 422 Pearce HallMail maintainer of: archive, ftpadmin Computer Science Department

Updated expect package

1996-01-04 Thread David Engel
expect-5.18.1-2.deb -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

New ical package

1996-01-04 Thread David Engel
ar.gz a9b11c18afabb925c264756bc0e1cd48 ical-2.0p2-1.diff.gz ea85fe25fa4a23735275edef8268a049 ical-2.0p2-1.deb -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Re: dialog-0.9a-4.changes INSTALLED

1996-06-16 Thread David Engel
log-0.9a-2.diff.gz) > Installed dialog-0.9a-4.i386.deb into > unstable/binary-i386/misc/dialog_0.9a-4.deb (replacing dialog-0.9a-2.deb) I still seem to be listed as the dialog maintainer. Would whomever built this version like to take it over permanently? Bruce, I think it was you

Re: What should I do about getpgrp?

1996-06-19 Thread David Engel
The manpage indicates that getpgid is what you want. > Unfortunately, I can't get libc5's source right now because ftp.debian.org > is unavailable, and debian.crosslink.net doesn't mirror the source. Not mirroring the source makes it awfully easy for them to violate the GPL. Davi

Bug#3446: expect 5.19.0-1 still depends on tcl74

1996-06-29 Thread David Engel
inks pointing to > 75, so I suppose expect can run with 75 (right?). Expect 5.19 is for Tcl 7.4 so the current expect package depends on the tcl74 package. Expect 5.20 is for Tcl 7.5 but it is still in development. David -- David EngelOptical Data System

Re: location of sg.h

1996-08-01 Thread David Engel
Mr Stuart Lamble writes: > As of (at the latest) 2.0.0, /usr/include/scsi should be a symbolic link > to /usr/src/linux/include/scsi. Given that libc5 includes the kernel I'll hopefully get time to fix this next week. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems,

Re: Overwriting include files

1996-08-01 Thread David Engel
ully, H.J. Lu can confirm this. If this is the case, then the headers should probably be removed from libc. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it

1996-08-02 Thread David Engel
Ian Jackson writes: > David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict > with it"): > > This would force an exact version match between cpp and gcc and I > > would very much like to avoid those situations. Yes, I know this is > > already

Bug#4006: Fileutils has /usr/libexec directory

1996-08-02 Thread David Engel
Package: fileutils Version: 3.13-2 The fileutils package has an empty /usr/libexec directory in the .deb file. I don't think the FSSTND supports libexec yet, so the directory should be removed. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROT

Re: Uploading compress-package 1.1 on master

1996-08-04 Thread David Frey
ason: Copyright-problems (Unisys-Patent) David -- David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>|Microsoft isn't the answer...it's the QUESTION. Schlieren, Switzerland|``No'' is the answer. PGP-Key available on request |Use Debian GNU/Linux!

Re: Uploading compress-package 1.1 on master

1996-08-07 Thread David Frey
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yves Arrouye writes: >On Aug 4, 6:55pm, David Frey wrote: >} Subject: Re: Uploading compress-package 1.1 on master >} In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >} [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >} >Description: >} > compress-package: filese

Bug#4006: Fileutils has /usr/libexec directory

1996-08-07 Thread David Engel
not use libexec, it can confuse users and other developers. It should be removed in the next maintenance revision or before the next public release of Debian, which ever comes first. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[uploaded to chiark]: dump

1996-08-09 Thread David Frey
I've uploaded to chiark: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Date: 07 Aug 96 22:20 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: dump Version: 0.3-7 Binary: dump Architecture: i386 source Description: dump: Ported 4.4BSD dump

Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with it

1996-08-10 Thread David Engel
Ian Jackson writes: > David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict > with it"): > > Ian Jackson writes: > ... > > > Hmm. Why is it necessary for gcc to know which version of cpp is > > > available, or for it to have exactly

New Tcl/Tk Packages

1996-08-11 Thread David Engel
Date: 09 Aug 96 23:03 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: tcl75 Version: 7.5p1-1 Binary: tcl75 tcl75-dev Architecture: i386 source Description: tcl75: The Tool Command Language (TCL) v7.5 - Run-Time Package. - TC

New SNMP Package

1996-08-11 Thread David Engel
Date: 11 Aug 96 04:58 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: snmp Version: 3.1-1 Binary: snmp Architecture: i386 source Description: snmp: CMU SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) Agent and Apps. - The CMU SNMP agent

Bug#3731: snmpd: patch for hrProcessorLoad MIB variable

1996-08-11 Thread David Engel
gt; counter available in /proc/stat. The patch below adds a signal > handler to correctly keep track of the cpu load over the last minute. I've forwarded your report on to the upstream maintainers to get their opinion. David -- David EngelOptical Data S

New Ical Package

1996-08-12 Thread David Engel
Date: 12 Aug 96 15:25 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: ical Version: 2.0p2-2 Binary: ical Architecture: i386 source Description: ical: An X11/Tk Calendar application - Some of Ical's important f

Bug#3979: linux/if_arp.h> needs further includes

1996-08-13 Thread David Engel
Ian Jackson writes: > Package: libc5-dev > Version: 5.2.18-9 > > As you can see below, should include > and . > ... Fixed in version 5.2.18-10. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho R

Bug#4156: rpncalc has unexecutable unwriteable /usr/man, /usr/man/man1

1996-08-18 Thread David Frey
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Jackson writes: Package: rpncalc Version: 1.1-1 >Directories must be 755 root.root. Fixed in rpncalc-1.1-2

Re: TclX package again

1996-08-21 Thread David Engel
create yet another package unless I really needed to or someone else wanted it. > 5) I haven't had time yet to look after the other platform stuff. > Last time you told me to remove any hard-coded "i386" for the > debian support. I assume you're talking about

Bug#4265: util-linux_2.5-5.deb: /sbin/clock Seg. faults

1996-08-27 Thread David Engel
> 2.0.14 but doubt that that's the problem. Are you on a m68k perhaps? > There were some changes made to clock for that system. I just ran into this problem myself. There are at least two serious problems with clock when the real-time clock device is enabled in the kernel. The fol

Bug#4294: gcc -bi486-linux can't find cc1

1996-08-27 Thread David Engel
Thomas Koenig writes: > David Engel wrote: > >> $ gcc -bi486-linuxaout hello.c > >> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory > > >This isn't a bug. > > To change a bug into a feature, it needs to be documented. This h

Bug#4190: Bug4190: serious security hole in libc (resolver)

1996-08-30 Thread David Engel
we can't > be sure that there are no more. The bash man page mentions > BASH_ENV in one place, and it's not checked by telnetd. About the best I can do, without further guidance, is make libc not echo the problem lines to stderr. Is that acceptable? David -- David Engel

Bug#4270: xosview should be able to monitor /dev/ttyS? too

1996-08-25 Thread David Frey
Package: xosview Version: 1.3.2-6 Xosview should be able to monitor the /dev/ttyS* lines too; since nowadays (with the advent of mgetty) a lot of people use /dev/ttyS* for dialout. David

Bug#4269: xosview has only XOSView as application resource file

1996-08-25 Thread David Frey
k & white stuff and 'Foo-color' contains the color definition and #includes 'Foo'. By doing it this way you can put #ifdef COLOR *customization: -color #endif ... into your /etc/X11/XDefaults line and all (correctly configured) applications look their color configuration up in *

Bug#4269: xosview has only XOSView as application resource file

1996-08-27 Thread David Frey
>> Xosview only reads the file XOSView (and ~/.Xdefaults) when evaluating >> its X resources. It does this by doing all the reading by foot (calling >> XrmGetFileDatabase() etc.). >> This is IMO the wrong way to do it; the application should use >> XtGetApplicationResources() (as xsysinfo does i

Bug#4346: Essential LaTeX style files missing

1996-09-02 Thread David Frey
om teTeX for myself, for example the rsfs fonts, which are badly needed. But: Is somebody knowledgeable on the copyright terms on the rsfs's fonts? >As for a4, I much prefer vmargin (which the LaTeX Companion has as vpage, >described on page 89). And I pagesize... David

Bug#4190: serious security hole in libc (resolver)

1996-09-03 Thread David Engel
On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Marek Michalkiewicz wrote: > David Engel wrote: > > About the best I can do, without further guidance, is make libc not > > echo the problem lines to stderr. Is that acceptable? > > I'm not sure. Someone could still read special files as root

Bug#4384: gcc_2.7.2.1-1.deb & g77_0.5.18-2.deb incompatible

1996-09-05 Thread David Engel
probably the > ... > But I don't know how David (gcc maintainer) think s about this, > so I cc'd him on this. > > David? My preference is to find someone (other than me) to maintain both gcc and g77 and let him/her decide how to handle it. David -- David Engel

Bug#4422: gcc bug?

1996-09-06 Thread David Engel
-O -Ae -DDEBUG_LOG_FILE="\"/tmp/netperf.debug\"" -DUSE_LOOPER-c > netperf.c -o netperf.o > *Initialization*:1: missing token-sequence in `#assert' > make: *** [netperf.o] Error 1 Will you please reduce the problem down to a small, reproducable test case. There'

Bug#4426: gcc bug #2

1996-09-09 Thread David Engel
On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, James A. Robinson wrote: > Package: gcc > Maintainer: David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Version: 2.7.2.1-1 > > I don't know whether or not this is a gcc bug, but after I installed > the latest rex stuff, gcc stopped being able to find cc1. Aft

Bug#4426: gcc bug #2

1996-09-09 Thread David Engel
ation didn't > match... making it *much* clearer where the blame belongs.) This is probably a good idea. Gcc's handling of compiler versions is nice for C, C++ and ObjC, since they are fully integrated, but it breaks down horribly for other languages because of di

Bug#4429: gcc argument validation could be better

1996-09-09 Thread David Engel
he format of the -A flag better. The message > currently generated by a badly-formatted argument is less than > informative. Well, it's kind of hard to validate the free-form argument to the -A flag, since any error will look the same as any other, obscure, syntax error. I'll pass

Re: Newer version of gdb and binutils?

1996-09-13 Thread David Engel
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes: > You (Frank Neumann) wrote: > > Hi, > > there have been newer versions of these two programs out for some time > > now: > > gdb-4.16 (current in Debian: 4.15) > > binutils-2.7 (current in Debian: 2.6) > > > > David, are

Re: Newer version of gdb and binutils?

1996-09-16 Thread David Engel
g. If > anyone likes to take a look at it, it's on > ftp://feivel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/debian.local//local 2.7.0.3 includes an important patch for building large programs and shared libraries. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

dpkg-shlibs and soname

1996-09-17 Thread David Frey
ies, runtime versions. Now: What should I do? I see 3 alternatives: 1) Recompile the libreadline package to provide the libreadline2.0 name, 2) link the rpncalc (somehow) against the libreadline2 library (but how?), 3) fool around with the shlibdeps.local file. What is the right thing to do? Thanks

New binutils package

1996-09-18 Thread David Engel
Date: 17 Sep 96 20:10 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: binutils Version: 2.7-1 Binary: binutils Architecture: i386 source Description: binutils: The GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities. - The programs i

New gdb package

1996-09-18 Thread David Engel
Date: 17 Sep 96 20:40 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GDB is a source level debugger for C, C++ and Fortran programs. Source: gdb Version: 4.16-1 Binary: gdb Architecture: i386 source Description: gdb: The GNU debugger. C

Re: How to force static linking of some libs when using -shared?

1996-09-18 Thread David Engel
somelib is not useful since there's no link phase. Can I > remove it? Yes, but leaving it in is usally a good thing. The reason is that it makes it obvious which other libraries are needed and less likely a user will link with the wrong library. David -- David Engel

Updated expect package

1996-09-18 Thread David Engel
Date: 18 Sep 96 14:27 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: expect Version: 5.19.0-2 Binary: expect Architecture: i386 source Description: expect: The expect/expectk programs and libraries. - Expect is program which pe

Updated scotty package

1996-09-18 Thread David Engel
Date: 18 Sep 96 15:12 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: scotty Version: 2.0.2-4 Binary: scotty Architecture: i386 source Description: scotty: TCP/IP-SNMP Network Managment Extension for TCL. - Scotty is a set

Updated tkined package

1996-09-18 Thread David Engel
Date: 18 Sep 96 14:49 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: David Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: tkined Version: 1.3.4-2 Binary: tkined Architecture: i386 source Description: tkined: The tkined network editor. - When used in conjunction with the scotty p

Re: proposal: pseudo source packages

1996-09-21 Thread David Frey
stall package as it was done with netscape. Then, the people with non-intel architectures would know that the package is useless for them (at the moment) and wouldn't need to download it. David -- David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |Microsoft isn't the answer...it's the

Bug#4530: ld cannot find most shared libraries

1996-09-22 Thread David Frey
nual (chapter 12) should mention that you should install the -dev packages, if you wish to compile something, since the links are only contained in the -dev packages. Ian? David? David

Re: ldso breaks a.out?

1996-09-23 Thread David Engel
), > stripped Please run it with strace. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Re: ldso breaks a.out?

1996-09-23 Thread David Engel
Guy Maor writes: > /lib/ld.so: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, stripped > > Shouldn't it be a.out? No. It was changed to ELF in version 1.8.1. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E

Re: ldso breaks a.out?

1996-09-24 Thread David Engel
message...) > > We concluded that it was simply time to switch to a 2.0.x kernel > (after some discussion about which values of "x" were stable...) Which 1.x.x version were you using? It probably had a broken do_load_elf_library() in fs/binfmt_elf.c. David -- David Engel

More packages up for adoption

1996-09-24 Thread David Engel
eds to be upgraded to H.J. Lu's newest version. Track H.J. Lu's version. Things could be complicated by multiple architecture support and libc6. libc4*, aout-binutils, aout-gcc: As far as I'm concerned, these are deprecated and should not be supported. However, if somebody wants t

More packages up for adoption

1996-09-26 Thread David Engel
As far as I'm concerned, these are deprecated and should not be supported. However, if somebody wants to update them, I won't stop them. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1101 E. Arapaho Road (214) 234-6400 Richardson, TX 75081

Re: Starting messages should have unique style

1996-10-02 Thread David Frey
Please, please! B-) > Yes, this bothered my too. And, in fact I changed it on my box. That's what I'd like to suggest: echo "Starting :" start-stop-daemon --start --exec daemon1 ; echo -n " daemon1" start-stop-daemon --start --exec daemon2 ; echo -n " daemon2&

Re: IMP: downgrade ldso to bo: no ldso left!

1997-05-13 Thread David Engel
es, I know there's an experimental dpkg out that does > work with the new ld.so, but we've just been warned about the > dangers of that experimental version. Then Klee, or whomever, should update the current stable version for unstable. The change is trivial and is n

Re: which group ?

1997-05-17 Thread David Frey
our system and restore the interesting files (a la /etc/shadow). (if rdump/rrestore didn't exist dump/restore needn't the SUID bit). David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: config packages [Was: rm -r * and the default prompt]

1997-05-22 Thread David Welton
p; 2, rtin, and tcsh, with other in development. Ciao, David Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.efn.org/~davidw Se quest'email e` in Italiano, mi dispiace per gli errori:-) FORZA PANTANI! --Debian GNU/Linux-- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAI

Re: S: native english speaker to check some documentation

1997-05-24 Thread David Welton
d be great. | | regards, andreas I'd be willing to do this, or at least some of it, depending on how much material there is. Contact me with further information when you are ready. Ciao, David Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.efn.org/~davidw Se quest'emai

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-25 Thread David Frey
ite problem: The end key doens't work in xterms! xterms are in my experience in this regard pathological (opposed to VCs) David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

dcfgtool and clones

1997-05-26 Thread David Frey
t editor. As a compromise > it could use the same system than the sendmail aliases: The user make > changes in a plain text file (/etc/aliases), but the application > 'compiles' this file as a db database (/etc/aliases.db)? A database of some sort (e.g. tsearch dump) would b

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread David Webb
wever, I do know that I haven't made any weird modifications to my system and definitely none to the default perl installation. - Dave +--+---+ | David Webb | The believer is happy; the doubter is wise. | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Hungarian Proverb | +--+---+

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread David Coe
Mirek Kwasniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:22:02AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > [...] > > It is left like this until perl is configured and the postinst script > > takes care of moving perl-5.005.dist to perl-5.005. > > > > > > Why does perl need to do all this hardl

Useless packages (was Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-24 Thread David Starner
ges are and aren't useful to them, why don't we look at the popularity contest? A simple, bias-free way of seperating programs on to the CD's, by actual use. That is what it was made for. David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-25 Thread David Bristel
Or crossover cable. Dave Bristel On 24 Sep 1999, Ruud de Rooij wrote: > Date: 24 Sep 1999 17:16:06 +0200 > From: Ruud de Rooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Conference! - aro

Re: Useless packages (was Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-25 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 07:28:57AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Instead of each developer chose what packages are and aren't useful > > to them, why don't we look at the popularity contest? A simple, bias-free > > way

Re: Useless packages (was Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-25 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 08:18:04PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 02:51:36AM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 07:28:57AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > > David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Instead of each d

Re: Running daemons without asking for permission on install

1999-09-25 Thread David Bristel
This is also a very big issue for those who install "groups" of packages during the install. I know that I was recently bitten by this when I chose to install a number of "groups" of packages, and didn't realize that the masquerading and redirecting versions of inetd were installed. It took some

Re: Censoring :) (was: Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-27 Thread David Bristel
I agree with you on this one, we do NOT need html, or text versions of the Bible, or other non-technical or computer related documents in main. As it is, potato is HUGE, larger than ANY other distribution. My thought is that if it is not a program, or does not enhance or assist in the use of a pr

Re: Useless packages (was Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-27 Thread David Weinehall
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Matthew Vernon wrote: > David Starner writes: > > On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 05:59:27PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > > > Nevertheless it is moot point because we are running out of room and > there > > > has to be a third CD. It might as

Re: Useless packages (was Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-28 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 11:43:50AM +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote: > David Starner writes: > > Instead of each developer chose what packages are and aren't useful > > to them, why don't we look at the popularity contest? A simple, bias-free > > way of seperating pro

mtools

1999-09-28 Thread David Weinehall
ng in xlib6g that mtools really needs, why not break it out of xlib6g and make it a separate package? Oh, and why does xlib6g depend on xfree86-common? Wouldn't it be more natural the other way around only? /David Weinehall _ _

Re: Shortening release cycles

1999-09-28 Thread David Bristel
I believe that this is the reason Joey Hess suggested that we start adding new and tested packages as an addition to our last stable release. Many package maintainers release new versions of their packages for both the stable, as well as the unstable release. XFree is a perfect example of this, a

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread David Starner
's not like it's an error in the program, it's just something you don't like. David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: pine in other distributions?

1999-09-28 Thread David Bristel
You may have noticed that the other distributions also have KDE included in them. Because of the license "flaw", Debian does not allow KDE in main. Redhat and others include it because there is little chance of legal action against them for this inclusion. The same applies here, Redhat seems to

Re: mtools

1999-09-28 Thread David Weinehall
m mtools and create an extra package with just this file, and make this file recommended by mtools, and make mtools required by the extra-package. /David Weinehall _ _ // David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /> Northern

Re: pine in other distributions?

1999-09-28 Thread David Weinehall
we are free to distribute even a patched Pine, as long as we apply an L at the end of the version#. Not too big a sacrifice, huh? We'll still have to keep it in the non-free area, of course, as it's a BSD-style license, but... I&#x

Re: pine in other distributions?

1999-09-28 Thread David Weinehall
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Thomas Schoepf wrote: > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, David Weinehall wrote: > > > Thus we are free to distribute even a patched Pine, > > No! Anyone is allowed to _locally_ modify Pine, but there's no statement > about distributing such modified versio

architectures, endianness

1999-09-29 Thread David Coe
Hi all, Do we have a table/chart somewhere that explains which Architectures use which endianness? Gpart has incomplete support for endianness, the beginnings of which are implemented as shown below; it behaves as if only i386 and alpha are little-endian --is that true? Thanks. /* * endianne

Re: Can I have a package with no real name of upstream maintainer?

1999-09-29 Thread David Starner
; then fair enough, but I'd hope that he reads the code very carefully > when new upstream versions are released. I think you're being really paranoid here. Anyone who really wanted to sneak trojans into Debian would go by a name, e.g. Phillip Hands, which no one would know wasn't real until everything was over. David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is XEmacs nonfree?

1999-09-30 Thread David Coe
[I searched the archives, but didn't find a previous discussion about this; if I missed it, please just point me in the right direction. Thanks.] I've been using both XEmacs(20) and Emacs(20), and while investigating some of their differences in behavior I stumbled upon http://www.xemacs.org/Ab

Re: Is XEmacs nonfree?

1999-09-30 Thread David Starner
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:54:32AM +, David Coe wrote: > Is that still an accurate description of the legal status (from > FSF's perspective) of XEmacs, and if so, shouldn't we move it to > non-free? Huh? RMS is just complaining that they chose not to assign copyright to

Re: warning: lilo 22dev0-1 can make your system unbootable !

1999-10-01 Thread David Weinehall
e was upped; I'm not taking any unnecessary risks... /David _ _ // David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /> Northern lights wander \\ // Project MCA Linux hacker// Dance across the winter sky // \> http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/

Re: First beta version of the Debian SGML/XML HOWTO

1999-10-01 Thread David Coe
Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Debian SGML/XML HOWTO. [...] > http://www.debian.org/~bortz/SGML-HOWTO/ [...] looks nice, thanks for doing this; one immediate question: nsgmls is not (any longer?) in potato. Should it be? Thanks.

Re: slink -> potato

1999-10-01 Thread David Bristel
Strange, I've never had a hard time with a dist-upgrade when I am remote. Of course, it's best to open a new telnet window once the upgrade is complete, and to not do a final reboot until you are on site, since if it doesn't boot, you are stuck. But that behavior of losing connection is generally

Re: How not to be a nice person (Was: Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality)

1999-10-02 Thread David Bristel
handful. So, let's keep the good of the distribution in mind, work through any differences we may have, and continue on. David Bristel > > Hamish > -- > Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). > CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: How not to be a nice person (Was: Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality)

1999-10-02 Thread David Bristel
lag to go on a package, and after the install, the installed daemons are listed. This is just an idea, but that's another subject. David Bristel

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