Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
Does anyone else find it ironic that licq-plugin-gtk+ was finally installed into the archive today? Guess it wouldn't be Debian if it was on time ;-) Daniel -- /- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ |f u cn rd ths, | Put

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:26:30AM +1200, Michael Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:02:01PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > Does anyone else find it ironic that licq-plugin-gtk+ was finally > > installed > > into the archiv

Re: Qt2.2 released under the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:32:10PM -0400, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Away put your flamethrowers! I mean you no harm! Not that there were any flamethrowers coming out, but this line was too good to pass up. (I think my brain has been addled from

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
ran but consumed essentially 100% of my CPU time to decode a file, so doing anything else with the computer caused breakups. I'm surprised, actually, that you don't see problems; by that standard, shouldn't it be eating at least 50% of your CPU time? Daniel -- /---

Re: ITP lame

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
is alleviated. I think the problem is that free MP3 encoders are illegal in large areas of the world :-( Daniel -- /----- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ |f u cn rd ths,|I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not

Re: No german umlauts in console and xterm

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
ating foreign characters as control characters and either beep in protest about unbound keys or do something highly unexpected. (you can disable this in bash, but then some other stuff (legitimate control chars) breaks, and since I only type umlauts on the command-line very occasionally, it wasn&#x

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
t? Oh, wait, there are still people who don't use mutt. Nevermind. :) Good luck, Daniel [1] actually, that's an interesting idea: GUI tools that let people embed comments before/after specific blocks of configuration. (don't worry about it now, but maybe eventu

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
f it worked. Daniel -- /--------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ | CCs of list | "So convenient a thing it is to be a| | replies are | reasonable creature, since it enables one | | welcome. |

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
he most naive users; the others will be able to handle the manual configuration) Since I'm not contributing code, though, you know what you can do with my opinion :) Daniel -- /- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ | This space |

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:08:17PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Daniel Burrows ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Erm, how many 'newbies' are going to know what a class A vs class C > > network > > is, or what a "gateway"

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 07:20:54PM +0200, Frederic Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > Daniel Burrows wrote : > > I've been thinking along these lines too, but didn't want to mention it as > > I'm not likely to be able to help implement it.

Re: Debian and KDE

2000-09-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
e would include KDE when the license changed, and are now in the process of doing that. See http://incoming.debian.org if you don't believe me. Actions speak louder than words (IMO), or should. Daniel -- /- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ | C

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
having to install and configure a Web server (!!) to set up the machine, for the same reason I object to needing a Web server to view documentation (eg, doc-central depends on apache). Daniel -- /--------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ | This space

Re: dualing banjos

2000-09-12 Thread Daniel Burrows
tes of memory"... Daniel -- /- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ | "You see, I've already stolen the spork of wisdom | |and the spork of courage.. together with the spork | |of pow

Re: ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Daniel Burrows
timage.sourceforge.net Dumb question: what's the distinction between this program and dd? I assume there is one, or it wouldn't mention specific partition formats.. Daniel -- /- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ |

Re: ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Daniel Burrows
e. It looks like this utility is either a dd clone or a tar clone, and I'm wondering what the difference is between it and those programs. Daniel -- /- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ | "You keep on using that word. I do not th

Re: ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Daniel Burrows
nevermind, I'm stupid. I see it on the homepage now. Daniel, crawling into a hole in the ground for the second time in a week.. -- /- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ | Hi, I'm a

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Daniel Burrows
when you use the standard "reply" function. Daniel -- /--------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ | "But what the eagle does not realize is that it is participating in a crude | | form of natural selection. One day, a tortoise will lea

Re: console mode(probally off)

2003-06-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
nlevel.conf. Daniel -- /-------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---\ | "Note that fires are not restricted to dormitories. | | Indeed, fire can occur in off-campus residences as well." | |

Re: aptitude borked [was: Re: Fun with python-apt]

2003-06-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
Have you tried "dpkg --remove apt-listchanges" or "dpkg --purge apt-listchanges"? Daniel -- /-------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---\ | "You see, I've already stolen the spork of wisdom | |

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:53:09PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > I was wondering, should I make a mass filing of bugs for those packages > who fail to produce a proper description? Yes, please! Daniel

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
h you should be fine. Actually, it looks like you could use ${Newline} and friends to include multiple lines (I haven't tried this myself, though) Daniel -- /-------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---\ |Af

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
(not the problem discussed above, but still has problems with its description) imlib1-dev libast2-dev libcdaudio0-dev libcelsius-dev libchipcard20-dev Daniel -- / Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Re: Bug#198665: ITP: pmk -- The pmk project aims to be an alternative to GNU/autoconf (configure scripts).

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
x27;s that much danger of confusion with the alternatives system, and IMO the slight risk is outweighed by how cumbersome the sentence above is. I think "an alternative to GNU autoconf" is a better choice. Daniel -- / Daniel Burrows

Re: Packages: an average 66321 bytes per line of description

2003-06-26 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 07:46:19AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Daniel Burrows wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:15:29PM -0500, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > > >>>Not all of it,

Re: [VAC] June 9 - August 30 [UPDATE]

2003-06-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
I won't be doing any work on my Debian packages until I get back home. Please NMU them if necessary, and don't be alarmed if I ignore non-critical bug reports for a while! Thanks, Daniel -- /-------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---\ |

Re: [VAC] June 9 - August 30 [UPDATE]

2003-07-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:15:10AM +0200, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > El día 30 jun 2003, Daniel Burrows escribía: > > Just an update-- > > > > As I mentioned previously, I am working for NASA over the summer. The > &

Re: How to install X-Chat in five hours (or more)

2003-08-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
r would have better luck with that? Daniel -- / Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---\ | Will the last person to leave the Universe please | | turn off the lights and close the door?| \-E

Re: apt-get internals help

2003-09-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
See debian/rules. You might also want to look at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html, especially http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules . [there should be better documentation, but I'm not sure what it would be] Daniel

Bug#209257: debian menu system and capital letters

2003-09-08 Thread Daniel Burrows
when case has an agreed-upon meaning, as in Unix filenames, there may be some justification, but when it's just haphazard, as in menu files, it should be ignored] There is probably an argument for consistent capitalization on aesthetic grounds, but I'll let someone e

Bug#209298: ITP: musiclibrarian -- Music tagging and categorization software

2003-09-08 Thread Daniel Burrows
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-09-08 Severity: wishlist * Package name: musiclibrarian Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : file:///home/daniel/programming/musiclibrarian [will get a

Re: Debian policy about "experimental" ?

2003-09-21 Thread Daniel Burrows
, I asked for a solution in debian > policy, without needing to edit a file, what -snapshot allowed. > But maybe there is no other solution ? Well, you could always make the snapshot's version larger than the non-snapshot version. I think some packages use stuff like 1.4+cvs0.0.date.

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-26 Thread Daniel Burrows
virus? Um, those are line counts, not byte counts. 1889 lines is about 140k on the one I just received. Daniel -- / Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---\ |He had a terrible memory. He remembered everything. | \-Evil Overlord, Inc: planning your future today. http://www.eviloverlord.com-/

Re: Virus emails

2003-09-26 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:44:50PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Daniel Burrows dijo [Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 01:10:57PM -0400]: > > > And I insist... Do you want to stop every mail which is (peeking at my > > > inbox) between 1887 and 2183

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
w about anyone else, but if we manage to end up 14 days behind, I'd say that the new approach to release schedules is a resounding success. Woody was pushed back by how many months? (which isn't to say we can't try to do better, just injecting a bit of perspective) Daniel --

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
mandations mean. It does not install Suggestions because Suggestions are not meant to be installed by default. If you are installing packages from contrib (which can Recommend and even Depend on stuff in non-free), you should expect to get non-free stuff on your system. Daniel -- /

Re: Annoyances of aptitude (Was: Where are we now?) (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
haven't found it yet. (d) It might be possible to make the info screen better by making it something other than a tree. I'm not sure; this is something to think about for a while before doing anything. (e) I've heard about a "debtags" database sys

Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:59:58PM -0500, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:09:16PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:10:21PM -0500, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > was heard to say: >

Re: Annoyances of aptitude (Was: Where are we now?) (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-03 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 06:34:29PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Op vr 03-10-2003, om 04:59 schreef Daniel Burrows: > > In most cases, the garbage collection should operate without you > > needing to know about it. (the increasing preval

Re: Annoyances of aptitude (Was: Where are we now?) (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-03 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:53:33AM -0500, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On 02-Oct-03, 21:59 (CDT), Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Users Manual starts with a section on the non-interactive interface. > > > Huh? >

Re: Annoyances of aptitude

2003-10-03 Thread Daniel Burrows
does (assuming "unwanted" means "will be removed when nothing depends on it") Daniel -- / Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---\ | Genius may have its limitations, | |

Re: Annoyances of aptitude

2003-10-03 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:48:13PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:52:02PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > This is exactly what aptitude does (assuming "unwanted" means "will > > be removed when noth

Re: Yet another g++ transition page

2005-07-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
hing. It will be updated ~once/day. I think you need to take virtual packages into account; apt-based stuff is showing up in Level 1, which AIUI is wrong. Daniel -- /----------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ |"Is it

Re: Yet another g++ transition page

2005-07-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Monday 18 July 2005 11:23 am, Mike Furr wrote: > Daniel Burrows wrote: > >   I think you need to take virtual packages into account; apt-based stuff > > is showing up in Level 1, which AIUI is wrong. > > Well, it does the best it can.  It resolves all of the informati

Re: Usability: Technical details in package descriptions?

2005-07-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
matters for a library. Better would be "libBar is a C library..." ...the difference being that a library can provide a C API without being implemented in C. Daniel -- /------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ | "Since TeX

Re: (no subject)

2005-07-23 Thread Daniel Burrows
you-know-what :P. Daniel -- /----------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ | "This is too absurd! The world can't end this stupidly!" | | "Oh, sure it can. Have some faith."

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-28 Thread Daniel Burrows
xlibs-dev Daniel -- /------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ |All generalizations are dangerous. | \ The Turtle Moves! -- http://www.lspace.org ---/ pgp8CRCPSLKLB.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: I need to know how to create and use Driver Update Disks

2005-08-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
cluded in an update of the 2.6.8 kernel (which is being > prepared at the moment). I think you could resolve the packaging issue with diverts if necessary. Daniel -- /------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ | "But what *does* kil

Re: runlevels remodeled

2005-08-15 Thread Daniel Burrows
Daniel -- /------- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ | Whoever created the human body left in a fairly basic | | design flaw. It has a tendency to bend at the knees. | | -- Terry Pratchett

Re: Bug#323855: ITP: opencvs -- OpenBSD CVS implementation with special emphasis in security

2005-08-21 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Saturday 20 August 2005 02:20 pm, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > How does their extensive use of it explain why they would reimplement > it? Is there anyone who's used CVS extensively and HASN'T thought about reimplementing it? Daniel -- /------- Daniel

Re: Unnecessary "Conflicts" with imap-server packages

2005-08-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
one address, and squid   > reverse proxy on another, both listening on the same port. As I understand Brian's idea, this would just be a way of allowing daemons to cohabitat in their default configuration. The administrator would be free to override the defaults in any way he

Re: Bug#326945: ITP: shorten -- tool for fast compression of waveform files

2005-09-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
case the program would not even be fit for non-free. Doesn't "this software may be copied and distributed freely" do that? I don't see any permission to modify the software, though... Daniel -- /--- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: apt with index diff support

2005-09-10 Thread Daniel Burrows
n.org/debian";}; I would expect that removing the braces would do the right thing. APT::URL-Remap::http://merkel.debian.org/~aba/debian/ "http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian";; Daniel -- /--- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ |

Re: planet.debian.org vs. blog illiteracy

2005-09-26 Thread Daniel Burrows
e. :) (I suppose a lot of it would be appropriate for aptitude-devel, but last time I checked that had about two subscribers and one of them was me) Daniel -- /--- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ | There's nothing remarkable about it. A

Everyone go test aptitude 0.3.4!

2005-10-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
anges relative to 0.2 (unstable) are: - UTF-8 support - A new dependency resolution algorithm - Threading (downloads run in the background to keep the program responsive) Daniel -- /--- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --\ | "This is

Re: Everyone go test aptitude 0.3.4!

2005-10-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Saturday 01 October 2005 05:57 pm, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 05:48:14PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > >   I've just uploaded aptitude 0.3.4 to experimental.  This is basically a > > release candidate for 0.4 -- if no nasty bugs crop up, it wil

Re: Everyone go test aptitude 0.3.4!

2005-10-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Saturday 01 October 2005 07:07 pm, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 05:48:14PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > >   I've just uploaded aptitude 0.3.4 to experimental.  This is basically a > > release candidate for 0.4 -- if no nasty bugs crop up, it will be &g

Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

2005-10-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:50:26PM -0400, Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > "Eduard Bloch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >Hehe, it was my first thought about a possible solution, howerver: > >You also need the Conflicts string. And while the dependencies/conflicts > >are

Re: Bug#331528: ITP: debinstaller -- a graphical frontend for installing local .deb packages

2005-10-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 01:10:42PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Josselin Mouette [Tue, Oct 04 2005, 10:10:22AM]: > > > > Far too often people (read: newbies) get confused when they can't get > > > *insert favorite package manager* to install the .deb's they've just > > > downloaded.

Re: apt-get wants to remove hotplug?

2005-10-10 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 01:47:52PM -0500, Jason Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Monday 10 October 2005 01:37 pm, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > > Hi, > > > > In Sid, apt-get wants to remove hotplug. > > > > Is udev replacing it for good or this is just b0rken? > > > > .Alejandro >

Re: [Fwd: major problem with gnome-games dependency]

2005-10-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 11:33:50AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > "Arthur H. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > First, we don't play the games, but they are inventoried, and they can't > > be there. Second, I can, indeed, remove gnome and re-install in

Re: [Fwd: major problem with gnome-games dependency]

2005-10-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:32:35PM +0200, "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 12:10:22PM -0600, Arthur H. Edwards wrote: > > I work at a government laboratory where computer games are prohibited. I > > also use the gnome desktop. When I try to re

Re: [Fwd: major problem with gnome-games dependency]

2005-10-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 03:13:30AM +0200, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > As mentioned in [1], we've been considering switching to Recommends > for KDE metapackges, and mention in the description about the use of > --with-recommends. > > What perhaps would be really

Re: [Fwd: major problem with gnome-games dependency]

2005-10-12 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 04:25:05PM +1000, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 03:13:30AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > Do not forget, though, that with aptitude becoming the prefered tool > > for package management (over plain apt-get), this is no l

Re: [Fwd: major problem with gnome-games dependency]

2005-10-12 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 11:48:54AM +0200, David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Well, the problem is the widespread misuse of Recommends and Depends. > People have a tendency to use Depends where a Recommends would be > enough, and a Recommends where a Suggests would do the trick

Re: [Fwd: major problem with gnome-games dependency]

2005-10-12 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 04:44:32PM +0200, Shot - Piotr Szotkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > In other words recommendations mean: "This package does not actually > > NEED the listed packages, but it is unlikely you will want to install > > this package without the listed package." >

Re: [Fwd: major problem with gnome-games dependency]

2005-10-12 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 02:26:04AM -0400, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 12:34:21PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:32:35PM +0200, "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> was hea

Are pure virtual Depends/Recommends entries bugs?

2005-11-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
As I'm sure everyone knows, pure virtual entries in a Depends line are strongly deprecated, due to the fact that frontends have a tendency to pick a random provider of the package. What I'm not sure is if this is just "ugly" or actually considered a bug. In particular, I can't remember and woul

Re: Are pure virtual Depends/Recommends entries bugs?

2005-11-05 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:55:18PM -0500, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > As I'm sure everyone knows, pure virtual entries in a Depends line are > strongly deprecated, due to the fact that frontends have a tendency to pick > a random provider of the pa

Re: Introducing security hardening features for Lenny

2008-01-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:31:00PM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Tuesday 29 January 2008 4:31:51 pm Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > On mar, 2008-01-29 at 15:47 -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > I notice, for instance, that the latest cups > > > requires avahi. Can we

Re: Possible mass bug filing: missing shared library dependencies

2008-02-03 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:35:35PM +0200, Niko Tyni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >heroes-common Whoops. The package started out binary-indep, then changed to binary-dep. I remembered to start invoking dh_shlibdeps on it .

Re: avoid conf file overwrite message?

2008-02-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 09:43:29PM -0800, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 06:24:37PM -0800, William Francis wrote: > > *** apache.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? Y > > Installing new version of config file /etc/twiki/apache.conf ... > > > Is there a

Re: the new style "mass tirage" of bugs

2008-02-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 04:53:20PM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Wed February 20 2008 3:43:18 pm Ben Finney wrote: > > Who other than the bug reporter would you suggest should try > > reproducing the bug? > > > > Suggesting "put that effort into fixing the bugs" is

Re: dpkg-buildpackage now reorganizing debian/control Depends field??

2008-02-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 02:54:20PM +0100, David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Il giorno Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:04:52 -0300 > Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > As I said, for APT, the order has meaning _always_. > > > > apt-get install foo bar > > > > Is compl

Re: dpkg-buildpackage now reorganizing debian/control Depends field??

2008-02-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 08:50:37PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > "Sergei Golovan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Then having a unique, well-defined order of packages in Depends is a > > > good idea. If packages are

Re: mass ITPs

2008-03-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 08:49:05PM +0100, Romain Beauxis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Le Saturday 01 March 2008 19:48:50 Christian Perrier, vous avez écrit : > > If someone cares to listen: when you think about ITPing each and every > > piece of FLOSS that pops around: think about *help

Best practices for handling API (not ABI) breaks?

2008-03-08 Thread Daniel Burrows
Hi, I'm the maintainer of libsigc++-2.0, a typesafe callback library for C++. Upstream has just released a new version, 2.2, which preserves the version 2.0 ABI but is not source-compatible: programs that compiled against the 2.0 series will break with this new release. There are 114 package

Re: actively notifying users of removed packages

2008-03-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 04:19:42PM +0100, Luca Brivio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Alle 14:57, mar 11 marzo 2008, Andreas Bombe ha scritto: > > It's no active notification, but aptitude lists all installed packages > > that aren't in any distribution included in sources.list under "Obso

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 02:21:45AM -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I guess there's an inequality like: > > > > images on mirrors <= images on torrents <= images via jigdo > > Is there any way we can construct the torr

Re: Installation of suggested packages: recursive or not?

2008-03-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:38:17PM +0900, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Le Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 02:05:05PM -0400, Joe Smith a écrit : > > >On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, Don Armstrong wrote: > > >> > > >>apt-get -o APT::Install-Suggests=true install foo; or similar. > > > I will s

Re: Installation of suggested packages: recursive or not?

2008-03-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 02:21:52PM +0900, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Le Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 08:13:30AM -0700, Daniel Burrows a écrit : > > > > BTW, aptitude already supports non-recursively installing Suggests, and > > flagging them

Re: How do I trace aptitude dependencies?

2008-04-28 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 01:17:24AM -0400, Bryan Donlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Currently I have a situation where attempting to upgrade imagemagick > from version 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-1+lenny1 to version 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg1-2+b1 > pulls in over 200mb of dependencies, including mozilla-brows

Re: How do I trace aptitude dependencies?

2008-04-28 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 07:05:24AM -0700, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > One option you have is to run "aptitude why -v imagemagick iceape-browser", > which will show you all the possible dependency chains between those > packages. O

Re: How do I trace aptitude dependencies?

2008-05-09 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 02:38:51PM -0400, Bryan Donlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Aha, why -v helped indeed. One note about it though: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] bd] aptitude why -v imagemagick iceape-browser > p imagemagick Dependslibmagick10 > p libmagick10 Dependsl

Re: analyzing popcon data for bogus recommends

2008-05-13 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:09:20PM -0400, Felipe Sateler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Joey Hess wrote: > > > It would be nice to have a list which Recommends are ignored/overridden > > the most when installing packages, to identify Recommends that need to be > > downgraded to Suggests.

pwsafe and OpenSSL?

2008-05-15 Thread Daniel Burrows
I notice that pwsafe is linked against openssl. Is it affected by the recent debacle and if so, how? Do I need to regenerate all my randomized passwords, or somehow re-encrypt the pwsafe database? Thanks, Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: RFS: figtoipe / difficulties with Replaces:

2008-05-17 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 03:48:03PM +0200, Alexander Bürger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > 0==0 > Info for debian-devel: we try to figure out how to package figtoipe. > Before version 6.0pre30-1, a version of figtoipe was

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:07:04PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > A saner solution would be to only use the BTS when it's not possible > to discuss the patch with upstream. We could do the following: > > - add pseudo-headers in the patches for: > + URL of the bug

Re: pwsafe and OpenSSL?

2008-05-19 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:46:13PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Daniel Burrows wrote: > > I notice that pwsafe is linked against openssl. Is it affected by the > > recent debacle and if so, how? Do I need to regenerate all my > &g

Re: Handling of removed packages

2008-05-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:17:44PM +0200, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > James Vega wrote: > > As of version 0.4.11, this does happen. From the NEWS file: > > * Command-line updates in aptitude will now list packages that are > > newly obsolete. This doesn't work when a

Re: Fwd: Re: [Pkg-virtualbox-devel] Bug#484624: virtualbox-ose depends on a

2008-06-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 06:01:20PM +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Is this something to do with apt/dpkg? If you recommend a pure virtual package, apt will pick an arbitrary provider (IIRC the first one that occurs in its internal cache) to fulfill the dependenc

Re: Non-related 'Recommends' dependencies - bug or not?

2008-06-12 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:31:22AM -0400, Felipe Sateler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Frans Pop wrote: > > > Dependencies should in principle be "top down", not "bottom up". And > > defining dependencies from libs to apps is almost per definition "bottom > > up". > > As a nice experim

Bug#551992: general: stopping squeeze chroot shuts system

2009-10-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 02:16:39PM +0200, Martin Boer was heard to say: > On this system I installed a squeeze chroot using the following command: > > debootstrap squeeze /chroot/squeeze-x64-lighttpd-chroot > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ > > This works as expected but when I stop the chroot,

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
I agree with Eugene: the spec as presented is flawed. All package management tools (you forgot to list dpkg) treat Depends-satisfaction as an invariant, and there isn't really a compelling reason for this to change. The wording you present is a little confusing, but once you work through it, it

Re: /etc/udev/rules.d non-symlinks

2007-04-10 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:11:57PM +0200, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007, Joey Hess wrote: > > The intent is to let users disable a udev rule by removing the symlink, or > > reorder a rule to a different number by renaming the symlink. Putting a > > rules

Re: Debian desktop -situation, proposals for discussion and change. Users point of view.

2007-05-15 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:55:40PM +0200, "Mgr. Peter Tuharsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Debian developers often see "Ubuntu the enemy" and are mocking it as > inferior technology. However, they fail to see, what does the Debian > really offer to desktop users eventually. They fai

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-17 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 06:22:11PM +0100, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Thu, 17 May 2007 11:29:16 +0200 > Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My problem with the current situation that you either do the policy of > > always > > installing such stuff or you do

Re: apt-get

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 10:50:06AM -0600, Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Friday 18 May 2007 08:03, Howard Young wrote: > > Thank you for this link. I have read the information but it seems not to > > have a specific option for what I want. > > If you use aptitude for eve

Re: apt-get

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 12:29:56PM -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Howard Young escribió: > > looking through the list I now see that may be quite possible to achieve > > what I wanted using, some sort of

Re: apt-get

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:19:28PM -0400, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > It was really hard for me to switch to using aptitude, but now since I > have, I get annoyed when I use apt-get, although I use apt-get regularly > on a certain machine. I'd still like to use aptitude, b

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