>> /bin/sh never hurt anybody!
>
> Except that it forces your interpreter to be written in sh, which Debian
> doesn't
> like[1][2].
>
> [1] http://lintian.debian.org/tags/script-with-language-extension.html
> [2] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-poli
ven for a severity:minor bug.
I think it should, might be even a higher severity, depending on what the
content of these files is - especially .install and similar files might produce
not so funny results if you execute them accidentally.
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gt; I guess I'll push it to unstable. If there are issues reported, we'll
> see about its inclusion for the stable release, then.
I'd suggest to do so, too. In the worst case it could be removed from testing
before the release. As soon as there is a software ta
a DEP should not do that at all, at
least not without asking on common lists first. No reaction on your DEP
could just mean that people consider it as a waste of time or don't like
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ain the patch for stable releases. But they are not willing to
support Debian as they neither use Debian nor have any interest in
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r me.
... and then it is just wishlist again. Having /tmp on / is as bad as
having /var/log on / on busy machines.
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to /etc/initramfs-tools - that is a sane and
obvious way to handle such things.
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equire *modifications to upstream code* to
> support socket-based activation.
Is that compatible to what systemd requires? Various projects start
supporting systemd, so enabling such a feature for upstart would be
easier if the systemd stuff is implemented alread
s absolutely
>> desirable to support several init systems in Debian.
>
> What is the benefit, for our users, to be able to choose between two
> implementations?
They are *free* in what they choose.
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en it starts to be the case because kFreeBSD doesn’t have a modern
> init system available, will you reconsider?
Yes. Reconsider to use Linux in case I'm forced to use stuff like systemd.
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>> On 03/17/2012 08:20 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>>> On Mar 17, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
>>>> Have you noticed that both myself and Phil Hands took the decision to
>>>> write a sy
; though probably just a subset so it's portable to other kernels and init
> systems.
Sounds like a good plan to make the fanboys of both sides of the world
happy - I have no idea if its possible, but maybe also generate upstart
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ce nearlly half a decade).
I think it might even be useful to talk to both upstreams to ask them to rename
one of the project to avoid such issues.
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> be implementing it.
The powerguys have an implementation, although what I've heard so far it still
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tion systems (e.g. R and Drupal both
> have their own package distribution mechanisms) and also because the
> Java issues go beyond those of us who develop in Java - e.g. people now
> use Eclipse for C++ and Python development.
Indeed, but then eclipses uses autofoo and distutils and
em automatically sounds like a good idea. It could even produce
open-rc init scripts. And users can choose whatever they like to run. Sounds
like good idea to me :)
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to do the same for debconf 15.
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soon as building them on the buildds is implemented.
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(ly inferior) solutions onto social
> problems... )
Sometimes simple technical solutions are easier to implement than fixing
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;> them (which is not surprising if you have ever looked at the ifupdown
>> source).
>
> Source? It's beautiful, I can say. It's literate. It's well-structured.
>
> Manpower? Here it is [points at himself].
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> upstream authors *at all*), IMHO
Ack! We need to be able to give our upstreams a fixed release date so
they can plan ahead to have their release ready in time. If they don't
manage to do so it is not our fault an
On 04/05/2011 06:55 PM, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Bernd Zeimetz [2011-04-05 15:04]:
>
>> On 04/04/2011 01:15 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
>>
>>> most of the work is done by our upstreams, and by simply telling
>>> them "we'll freeze PICK_YOUR_MONTH e
e present from early
>> boot, and which will replace /var/run.
>
> Why this change?
20110330152010.ge20...@codelibre.net and following thread.
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package itself).
Uh please not yet another file in yet another format.
If you really need yet another file, please don't use yet another markup
language, use something RFC822ish.
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ilable to maintain the
> port. Without that the task is impossible.
Getting used, old (even fast, like 1 GHz CPUs) hardware is not that
hard. But you will have to find a place to host it.
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e all of these?
Yes. For a distribution which is targeted to support servers properly, yes,
definitely. For everything else there is Ubuntu.
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> On 2011-04-13 10:53, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> Yes. For a distribution which is targeted to support servers properly, yes,
>> definitely. For everything else there is Ubuntu.
>
> The universal OS is only running on serv
On 02/13/2011 03:45 PM, Miguel Landaeta wrote:
> In fact I'm wondering if I should ask its removal from the
> archive. If nobody adopt it soon I'll ask for removal.
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e the 'Desktop' task for.
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nt for any DD before uploading to the
>> archive.
>
> No, it's not.
With some exceptions you are able to find here:
http://ftp-master.debian.org/static/lintian.tags
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igrate to the new functions properly - please link to it in your bug reports.
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Instead of Martin's project you might want to look into ipcfg by Wouter
Verhelst, which is in experimental already.
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enough to avoid the need to repeat them all over the
> place, IHMO.
While we don't need this kind of bashing, the issue needs to be fixed
somehow, indeed.
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best if you consider unstable always in production-mode by
> default.
Let's freeze unstable today, call it stable and never touch it again.
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nfiguration.
Or even better, use ferm instead.
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n be used
> to run any random stuff by anyone).
What happened to the crontabs? I hope that importing upstream's git and
svn repositories into those used for Debian development is not 'random
stuff'.
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not funyy and such massice changes without even discussing them first
makes the new alioth unusable for me.
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tp://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=devscripts/devscripts.git
Even better would be http://git.debian.org/devscripts/devscripts.git
which is easy to handle with some rewrites.
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nobody will be able to help you.
The only thing you are doing is to waste time.
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ewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/.+\.git.*$
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/repos/.*$
RewriteRule ^.*$ /gitweb.cgi%{REQUEST_URI} [L,PT]
which should be similar to alioth's needs.
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ly I fail to understand why it
should not be possible to find a sane way to make it available.
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heir awaited triggers?
>
> python-support seems to need that; python does not see files in
> /usr/share/pyshared/, so until update-python-modules has run, a python
> module cannot be used.
python-support should be removed at some point in the future.
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uld be taken care of as soon as possible imho. Unfortunately
I'm swamped with work so I want have the time to help and discuss, but
if you need a sponsor for packages don't hesitate to ask.
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On 05/31/2011 04:03 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Can't we fix that in a point release, by backporting fixes?
That would be appreciated!
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le to just accept some of the changes we've made even
> though you think it makes URLs uglier. They're done to avoid cyclic
> dependencies between services.
Please explain that. I can't see how a cyclic dependency could happen
there. And I still think loosing
On 07/05/2011 12:35 PM, SP wrote:
> Has this been fixed in upstream? Is there a work around?
>
> Bug has been filed here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dh-make/+bug/803882
Please file it in the debian bug tracker.
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On 07/17/2011 08:13 AM, Neil Williams wrote:
>
> More usefully, the dd-list of the packages is attached.
>
> Bernd Zeimetz
>gpsd
>zbar
Both fixed in git, will be included in the next upload.
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such a bugfree condition that it could be used without problems at all.
But its a long time ago that I looked into the differences and talked with the
maintainer about it.
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On 07/19/2011 11:16 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
> Couldn't you block the creation of weekly and daily builds when things
> like this happen?
Weekly and daily builds of the installer are done to be able to find such bugs.
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please file an ITP bug,
otherwise a RFP bug. See the 'Using wnpp' part of
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/
> Any advices are strongly welcome.
If you intend to maintain the package in Debian, http://mentors.debian.net/ is a
good start.
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would get a lot of issues which are nothing porters
need to solve, like libraries not being available as the hardware just
doesn't exist for that architecture or test suites failing for various
random reasons.
If you want a help from a porter, imho you should present a problem in a
wa
maintainer probably know the source times better than the porter and you
should be able to come up with something useful to debug much faster? We
don't have enough porters to throw all the longish tasks on them, imho
the maintainer should go to porters with an arch specific problem to
solve, no
On 08/29/2011 07:15 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 29/08/11 at 18:21 +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> On 08/29/2011 04:49 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>>> I'm also completely tired of investigating issues which are already
>>> known to porters, which is unavoidable if
ms which run Debian or derivates of Debian. So looking at the list
of architectures, the only one I could imagine to get rid of at some
point would be sparc, maybe powerpc and ia64.
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on edge firewalls because it's way easier
> for a standard linux / debian admin. And please don't put hurd-i386 in
> the same camp as kbsd. They're not.
Hurd is far away from being useful while kfreebsd offers a great mic of
a good kernel and a usable userland (instead of t
armel computers do ?
The mipsel port is used by the Lemote Notebooks/mini Desktops for example, which
come pre-installed with Debian. Not sure if they have popcon enabled at all. And
I guess mipsel is more a target for Embedian. No idea about usage statistics
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ribe to the bug
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to bts mails. May be also implement a weekly summary of bug mails
instead of spamming every single bug mail.
Just my 2c :)
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the licenses If
you just use Apache to serve stuff and the ldap server - then there are
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_CFLAGS = $(CFLAGS)
else
GMIC_CFLAGS = -g -O0
endif
endif
endif
Not the best solution as it means that gmic will be slow(er) on arm and mips at
least, but the only working solution.
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hink that is true - the exported *FLAGS broke various of the
packages I maintain, mainly due to LDFLAGS breaking the build of Python
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==
After the release i
On 10.03.2015 04:54, Paul Wise wrote:
Gitorious and Codehaus closing
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> I'd rather see gitlab.debian.net <http://gitlab.debian.net> :)
or gitblit, which would be easier to integrate into ldap/sso/ssh imho.
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1883f250e44ab66410c0f462 foo1.tar.lz
84393a8d1883f250e44ab66410c0f462 foo2.tar.lz
lzip indeed does what you'd like to have, but imho it is much easier for
you (and with you I mean the openstack people) to use pristine-tar
instead of trying to implement lzip support in dp
your file is in a
similar format.
--news
Specify that the newsfile (default debian/NEWS) is to be edited
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in Debian for years. Recently it was updated to the latest
> version. Please check https://packages.qa.debian.org/w/waagent.html
... it just never made it into a stable release
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Hi,
I'm wondering if somebody implemented a salsa pipeline to rebuild the
reverse-deps of a library?
Is there some example/docker image to build on?
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y try to talk to upstream?
That should be the first thing to do
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stead.
>>
>>
>> Thanx in advance
>>
>> Harri
>>
>> https://bugs.debian.org/888569
>> https://bugs.debian.org/888743
>> https://bugs.debian.org/858837
>> https://bugs.debian.org/924551
>>
>
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easing a hurd buster release using ports.
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tive I have is to make the release now with the RC
> bugs.
There is no real difference between the normal archive and ports.
Uploads will happen after buster was released. If your binary packages
are built on official debian machines or the debian-ports machines does
not make a big difference.
en as well).
I strongly second this, although I'm not sure if cdbs should be involed
or not, but yes, dh should be used these days and turning that into a
"must" should happen sonner than later in my opinion.
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understand that in any case. Doesn't matter if its dh, cdbs
or old dh_* stuff.
> dh will hide everything. It isn't simpler, it *LOOKS*
> simpler, but it's a way more complex.
No idea where you think that dh hides something - make and dh both print
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h a commit and it would be built and tested automatically.
afaik the CI runners use k8s to schedule their work, so I think using
the default CI stuff from gitlab requires an architecture supported by
k8s. arm64 is supported and I know that some people cross-compiled k8s
for mips(el?), but I doubt i
r
some other reliable build system - you might also need that if you want
to build the source on other architectures or cross-build it...
tl;dr - first fix the source and build-system, then think about Debian.
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ht
t gain worth pursuing.
definitely. we are able to see the daily logrotate/ run in our power
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we might also not be able to trust the
linked list of commits a git tag is pointing to.
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ime a service needs to
shutdown, so some random sleep was added instead of handling it in a
sane way. This issues are luckily fixed forever with systemd - it just
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> VCS Packaging Info
> ==
>
> If you have a public repo then you should use vcs-git and vcs-browser.
> I'm reasonably sure this is even already well documented.
Definitely. If that is not yet in policy, it should go in there asap.
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and drive it forward.
Please remember that it should be easier and more fun to contribute
to Debian. Keeping packaging in the stone age jsut because some
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have exactly the same amount of history you
keep in your repository when you discuss patch files in the BTS.
>
> You may not care about that, but others do.
>
> That's why there are interesting trade offs to balance.
>
> --Sam
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tion, no patch)
same for me, I'm happy to send pull requests, but usually you won't see
a patch from me in the BTS.
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es and discussion on salsa, and on the BTS you end up
with a mess of patches in the best case.
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since I have my bigger packages (like
open-vm-tools, gpsd...) on github/salsa, I've started to get *a lot*
more pull requests than I got patches in the bts on all of my packages.
Also it is much more easy to review pull/merge requests - I even do it
on the mobile phone sometimes - and merge
xample - otherwise you would install *all*
plugin dependencies with collectd, which would be a big waste of space.
The other option would be to make one packe per plugin as redhat does,
but do we really want 20 packages with a single file?
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e /usr/share/doc/zsh/changelog.gz (from zsh
package)
(By default it scans all packages...)
If md5sums are really something the Debian project should trust on and
if the way we ship them without an easy way to verify them.... its a
different issue.
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Bernd Zeimetz
h systemd-networkd now, but I
would rather spend time on supporting such a combination and getting
rid of all the old ways of configuring networking stuff than
implementing yet another "client" solution.
Bernd
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Bernd ZeimetzDebian GNU/Linux Developer
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, thereby, request to rebuild affected packages.
So as I understand it: this will be fixed by itself as soon as somebody
uploads or binNMUs the package?
Then I would wait for some point near the release. And packages that
haven't been touched since buster might need some qa
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