I proceed?
[...]
Since it was only released in lenny and was removed from unstable over 3
years ago, I think you can consider the name to be free.
I don't know whether the QA page will reset if you upload an entirely
new source package under the same name. If not, you may wish to choose
a
laris.
>
> Now, who is going to pay the patent and license fees for each Debian
> installation which uses SystemD?
When is Oracle going to kill OEL?
Because if there is an OEL 7, and it's still a clone of RHEL, Oracle
will have to licence those patents to everyone without fee.
B
lf. To me, it looks a lot more logic
> and probable that those who don't know just don't care about VoIP. Those
> who need a VoIP client will have enough knowledge to choose.
[...]
And this sort of attitude is why Skype has won.
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o handle the situation, IMO, would
> be to at least fall back to the shell with a comprehensive error message.
That would be better, though not much better. You'll need either local
access or a remote serial console either to use the shell or to select a
fallback entry at the GRUB m
ious releases - but not that it should be the recommended
installation image in general.
[...]
> * There were concerns about accessibility support, "particularly for the
> blind"[2].
[...]
Which is unfortunately quite bad in most free graphical desktop
environments. Is it actual
s for the use
> of the attacker.
That ship sailed long ago. :-/
Some BMCs (like recent iDRAC) run Linux which means there may be some
opportunity for an outside project to modify and improve their security.
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On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 09:23 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> > That ship sailed long ago. :-/
> >
> > Some BMCs (like recent iDRAC) run Linux which means there may be some
> > opportunity for an outside project to mod
al hardware no one but Wookey has seen.
[...]
Given that, it seems like a good time to add arm64 to src:linux with a
configuration that will run on at least a typical QEMU ARM64 emulation.
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On Sun, 2014-04-20 at 16:28 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-04-20 at 16:13 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Sun, 2014-04-20 at 16:30 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > > On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 02:27:01AM +0100, Wookey wrote:
> > > > You may or may not have
ity kernel package could be included in Debian
as a separate source package.
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g-term upstream support, which for jessie would
presumably mean using 3.13 as a base, whereas src:linux will be a later
version.
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On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 17:34 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:45:10PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 22:41 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
[...]
> > The options I see are:
> > - Provide a source package based on src:linux t
nd directories to make
coinstallation and upgrades work properly. You should ask the glibc
maintainers how this works for x86 and
how it could translate to mips.
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On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 16:28 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-04-25 at 16:39 +0800, Yunqiang Su wrote:
> [...]
> > On mips64el system:
> >
> > libc6-mips32 make /lib/ld.so.1 link to /lib/ld-2.18.so
> > (yes, quite strange, mips system asks for use
refusing to do it. I’ve got no idea how to enforce DevRef on
> them, though.
You apparently didn't read chapter 1 of the Developer's Reference.
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s you have blacklisted radeon (for udev auto-loading) in some
other module configuration file?
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an creative? And the idea that vendors could
claim images made with their products (very likely with no explicit
action to use the profile) to be derivative works is appalling.
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Among economists, the real world is often a special
ng and will miss the next release. The effect on end users is
not immediate (package is still in stable and unstable) but there is
breakage that other maintainers need to fix.
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it's more important for make.
>
> Thinking about the poor people trying to bootstrap things, I'm tempted
> to suggest doing this as two separate source packages. Make is *so*
> far down the bottom of the stack that adding a dependency on another
> language could cause significan
h a message explaining
how to reopen and reassign if the bug is still present in emacs24.
Alternately, ask whether it is still present and then reassign/close
depending on the response (or lack of response within a time limit).
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guration and is installed by default (whether it blocks
anything would have to be a debconf question).
For firewall routers, I don't think we need to pick a default.
> * Some bugs happened in the Debian kernel package, and the kernel
> currently in Jessie comes without nf_tables enabled [0
x27;wontfix') when it is not clearly RC
and there is no expectation that it will ever be worked on. I agree
that a non-maintainer should not take that decision, though.
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There appears to be no repository for this package.
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urce packages, where the file name
essentially includes two full Perl module names. If that's specified in
current Perl policy, it should be fixed (and can be fixed without
confusing users).
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ccompanied by a build log. This would need a
bit of infrastructure to file the build log away.
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his connected to the
IPv6 goal? For IPv6 it is at least using iproute2 and not bad old
ifconfig...
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On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 00:01 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Mar 30, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> > > > For the IPv6 and LFS legacy release goals I think it would be best if we
> > > > would welcome massive (automatic?) tests to find all of the outstanding
> &
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> On 03/21/11 14:22, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-03-21 at 06:17 +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> >>
> >> Do you think that dkms should
m scratch,
>
> A daemon will never be able to replace ifupdown.
ifupdown will never work correctly.
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t doesn't support many of the configurations that people
want, and because it will try to re-enter the configured state again
after e.g. a link reset.
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> Hi Ben,
>
> On 03/31/11 15:22, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 10:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Of course I unders
I am
> happily using network manager on my laptop, because unlike ifconfig it's
> easy to configure for use on new wireless networks.
>
> I am not happy that network manager bypasses ifconfig to do this;
[...]
I am. NM
final decisions.
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On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 10:24:26AM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Ben Hutchings [2011-04-03 20:56]:
>
> > The kernel necessarily holds the working network configuration, though
> > it lacks e.g. credentials for WPA or 802.1x which are handled by
> > user-space. Us
robably
best, but for those, Y is better.' (I suspect that no single X could be
recommended for all configurations.) Giving users 5 choices and no
guidance would be unhelpful.
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no discrimination here.
>
> I'm not a guru, but I don't understand why Debian must be broken to
> please a user who doesn't want to read anything.
For most people, a computer is just a tool. A versatile and complex
tool, yes, but not all that complexity has to
" and so on.
> This is definitely not ASCII; it's about as close to it as to EBCDIC.
And we already have the 'iconv' and 'recode' commands to do conversion
between arbitrary character encodings.
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been deliberately
disabled by setting their shell to a nonexistent path. I know that's a
dumb way to disable an account, but that doesn't make this any less of a
security hole.
How about checking for the configured shell in /etc/shells before
enabling the fallback?
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On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 09:41 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> > And we already have the 'iconv' and 'recode' commands to do conversion
> > between arbitrary character encodings.
>
> These are not char
-A (>= 2.6.3).)
[...]
Do you mean, 'with debhelper, but without debhelper compat 9'?
debhelper is of course not mandatory.
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On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 02:16:30PM +0300, Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:56:15 +0100
> Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> > > Does this imply that "fixing" ifupdown to query the state(s) via
> > > netlink instead of rel
nly in this
> case), start a DHCP client;
> 3. make things still work after a suspend/resume.
[...]
The average user doesn't know what an IP address, MAC address or DHCP
are. There's a reason why d-i defaults to DHCP without even asking
now.
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On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 06:34:18PM +0300, Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:30:53 +0100
> Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> > Why is that necessary? So far as I can see, the purpose of the state
> > files is:
> > - Let ifup refuse to reapply a
ing it later on.
I think you're missing step 0: the release team consults with the whole
body of developers, presumably with a suggested freeze date/month as a
starting point. This would also mean step 1 would be delayed slightly.
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e if the system has 4 GB RAM and the '686-bigmem' flavour is not
available for some reason.
Please use 'reportbug installation-report' to provide more information.
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etween RAM
> and disk access times, having swap is often quite a disadvantage)
[...]
Under Linux, swap space is a requirement to defragment RAM. (This may
change in the future.) Without swap space, the kernel eventually
becomes unable to make large physically-contiguous allocations. Don&#
allers).
But I think this is a bug in the configuration of the CD/DVD creation:
the amd64 flavour is on DVD 1 but the 686-bigmem flavour is on DVD 2.
The latter definitely should be on DVD 1 (and CD 1 or 2, rather than CD
10!).
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> contiguous allocations. I think the exceptions are mainly I/O regions for
> DMA.
Heap allocations also have to be contiguous. And every thread needs a
kernel stack which is at least 2 contiguous pages on most architectures.
> And you're probably not using that heavily on suc
and 'linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64'
packages.
> One problem I have felt so far is about Virtualbox OSE, which brings a
> kernel problem while installing from Debian Packages.
Use the 'reportbug' command to report a bug on whichever package seems
;
Everybody, please make sure to scrub your archives. Email is serious
business.
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On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 09:19 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 à 14:02 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit :
> > On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 20:47 +0800, YANG,Chao wrote:
> > > dpkg --print-architecture shows
> > > i386.
> > >
> &
looked that was
> refused because it eats RAM to have it available but not turned on.
I'm (slowly) working on a way to build in all LSMs and then free memory
for those that aren't used.
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uld not be able to cause a crash, unless the device or port has an
electrical fault (e.g. short circuit).
Given that Atanas says says the drive could be mounted, I think this is
a kernel bug. See the section 'required information' at
<http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-bu
Requires.private is no indicator of a lack of support for
> --static. There are many libraries which could link statically but
> which have no need for any data in Requires.private.
[...]
Libs.private = -fstatic-linking-is-not-supported
;-)
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es in the distribution?
[...]
And those translations can't be shared with upstream, so all that effort
is being duplicated.
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en repositories (they really were a stupid idea in a
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On Sun, 2011-04-24 at 02:31 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 03:06:39PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > I would like to see policy forbid the use of commit hashes in versions.
> > They aren't ordered, and the information about exactly which commit the
>
uld be something like 'win32-i386' rather than just
'win32'. The non-x86 ports of NT 3.x and 4.0 are not really relevant
but an ARM port of Windows is supposed to be coming soon.
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On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 22:25 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 04:54:46AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Sun, 2011-04-24 at 02:31 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 03:06:39PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > > I would
name
> clashes appear now or in future, since this would require the code
> snippet to be changed.
I'm pretty sure there is a name clash already, though not among DMs.
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y the installation using Debian 6.0.1. If the current kernel
based on Linux 2.6.32 does not work for you, please report *that* as a
bug.
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ou have added yet another bug on the pile that no one
> ever reads, since there are no real maintainers for poppler.
Where is your RFH bug?
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mounting read-write. I suppose the problem then is that some
mount options can't practically be changed when remounting. (Worse, the
failure to change them is silent in some cases. And that is definitely
a bug.)
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ic records in DNS should not use SLAAC
addresses, since swapping the NIC will change those addresses.
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g wrong with a library changing those parameters for its
own thread. (However, creating new threads that the application doesn't
know about it can bring its own problems. It is common practice on
Windows and has led to some nasty bugs and workarounds there.)
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ackages in testing/unstable should be expected to support
any kernel version older than that in stable. It's the same same rule we
apply to any other dependency.
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e options for '586' and '586
with TSC', both of which result in -m586, so gcc does not appear to
assume the existence of rdtsc. I would not expect gcc to generate
cmpxchg8 except through an intrinsic, but I could be wrong.
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ts 486-class processors is more of
an aspiration. What maintainer has the time to test on such antiques
regularly?
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; LX (better GX); NX (similar to Athlon XP)
> (for the first time in year 2003 / 2004)
>
> My CPU "AMD Geode LX" already run with i686 kernel:
[...]
However, a 486 kernel will probably be faster and will be the only
option from 2.6.39 onward, as this processor doesn't support
7;s up to
> date (still mentioned hal) and it does not have links to such database.
That page appears to be very outdated. There is little point in
maintaining a database; any failures belong in a bug tracker.
Ben.
> Anything I could provide for more info?
>
> Thanks for the help.
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 14:44 +0700, Arief M Utama wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
>
>
> On 05/19/2011 08:36 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 13:53 +0700, Arief M Utama wrote:
> >> Latest try with only pm-utils package, I can do hibernate and resume
> >
es to notice when additional IP addresses come up
> and listen there if the service is configured for that IP address
> (b) Parse the configuration of each service in the init script and
> wait for the configured IP addresses to actually come up.
[...]
(c) Set the IP_FREEBIND soc
On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 20:29 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sat, 21 May 2011 14:31:45 +0100, Ben Hutchings
> wrote:
> >On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 15:01 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> >> with the increasing deployment of IPv6 I begin to see an issue
> >> icreasingly often: When
ription, in case you
don't know what PAE is.
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You are correct that most Pentium M processors do not have PAE (or do
not advertise it in CPU feature flags). I didn't know some of the
Pentium Ms were also called 'Celeron'; I'll see if I can rephrase the
description accordingly.
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ly other single Celerons having the pae capability.
>
> Nothing happens. You just won't be able to use pae capabilities. Which
> means you are limited to ~3.5GiB physical memory.
Also no SMP.
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On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 23:12 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On May 30, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> > There are likely to be many programs and build scripts that test for a
> > kernel version prefix of '2.6' vs '2.4' and will behave incorrectly when
> >
Please reply to debian-kernel as originally requested.
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 00:09 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> OoO Lors de la soirée naissante du lundi 30 mai 2011, vers 18:52, Ben
> Hutchings disait :
>
> > As you may have seen, the next version of the Linux kernel will
o drivers it woke up in less then 5 secs.
Please send the kernel log (output of dmesg) after booting, suspending
and resuming.
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On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:03:01AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2011, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On May 30, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > There are likely to be many programs and build scripts that test for a
> > > kernel version prefix o
ixed in unstable
> - digikam: fix a crasher (might be blocked by dependencies)
> - libvirt: security issues fixed in unstable
linux-2.6 (plus linux-kbuild-2.6, linux-latest-2.6):
security issues fixed in unstable: CVE-2011-1748, CVE-2011-1759,
CVE-2011-1581, CVE-2011-1770, CVE-2011-1776, CVE-2011-1
similar protocols work requires TCP proxying.
[...]
The majority of published references to VCS repositories are URLs for
anonymous access. Also regular Alioth users will be more aware of the
Alioth reconfiguration than others, and will know that they need to
change the read-write/push URLs. Therefor
e email request
> below (sent 2 weeks ago).
REMINDER: You are not the first social science researcher to send a
survey to 'open source' developers. Most of us have got tired of
them. Also, Debian generally describes itself as part of the free
software community, which isn'
hould be the default.
More packages means more user confusion. And the first behaviour is
definitely the correct default, as installing a boot loader package
almost always means you want to install the boot loader in the boot
sector.
What is your use case for the second behaviour?
> Don't
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 09:08:01PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 05:07:52AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > And the first behaviour is
> > definitely the correct default, as installing a boot loader package
> >
per list is debian-b...@lists.debian.org.
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produces oh so useful:
> (amd64)$ arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc -print-multi-os-directory
Indeed, I saw a complaint from David Miller that building gcc from
upstream source fails at present (on sparc, I assume).
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On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:03:04AM -0700, Geoff Levand wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 06/26/2011 02:35 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > We wouldn't consider this as a distinct port, as the PS3 will run the
> > same powerpc binaries as we already provide. But I assume there is some
>
s a Linux emulation layer) or Hurd (a
long-running joke) and they are lacking these features. This doesn't
serve users, it serves those developers.
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On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 14:00 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Ben Hutchings writes ("Re: A few observations about systemd"):
> > What's more, neither of the 'ports' to other kernels increases hardware
> > support.
>
> What they do provide is healthy compet
to maintain
> and nobody that wants to is able to.
>
> In most cases, if a package is buggy on some platform, the porters will
> either fix it or exclude it from that platform. Nevertheless, we expect
> Essential packages to work on all of our systems.
[...]
Er, no: http://packages
dpkg -s 'linux-image-2.6.32-5-686'.)
Also, you must send the panic messages. Use a serial console or
digital camera to capture them.
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On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 12:51 +0200, Hector Oron wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Getting late to discussion, apologies for that.
>
> 2011/7/26 Jonas Smedegaard :
> > On 11-07-26 at 12:03pm, Paul Wise wrote:
>
> >> We were thinking that it might be nice to add support to
> >> openssh-server for installing th
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 01:34 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Aug 13, Colin Watson wrote:
>
> > > Marco, do you have any plans for using this scheme as an option or as
> > > the default?
> Yes, because the upstream maintainers decided that the current scheme
> cannot work and will remove support fo
On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 10:43 +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, Iustin Pop wrote:
> > There is also information on Wikipedia about various compression
> > benchmarks, but IMHO if we want to switch from gzip then bzip2
> > doesn't make sense for /usr/share/doc.
>
> I'd like to see z
nd on the new package.
As for who maintains the new package, no I am not volunteering.
Ben.
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Yes, I said systemd - which presumably means we'll have to wait
another 5 years for this to be fixed.
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On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 19:03 +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 05:41:22PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 05:39:16PM +0200, Jan Möbius wrote:
> > > sometimes rpc.statd binds to port 631 udp which is used by cups.
> > > There
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 23:56 -0400, compn wrote:
> mplayer2 is a very poor fork name used to confuse users.
>
> it doesnt help that debian is using that name as a package:
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mplayer/news/20110817T173341Z.html
>
> debian and uoti are setting themselves (and us) up fo
On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 14:36 +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 05:39:16PM +0200, Jan Möbius wrote:
> >> sometimes rpc.statd binds to port 631 udp which is used by cups. Therefore
> >> cups is unable
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