Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 01:16:14PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > So now, the list of packages in violation of non-free font licenses: ... > feh > - contains 'helmetr' (Sun)[1] > > gozer > - contains 'helmetr' (Sun)[1] ... > xplanet > - contains &#x

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:54:37PM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote: > For the author of ttf-larabie-*, i tried that when i made these > packages. The licence we got does NOT fulfill all DFSG requirements, but > is already very liberate. I don't think we'll get further than that. > So please don't press

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:35:30PM +0200, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote: > On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 01:16:14PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > > [1] I have been told that the OpenOffice fonts are not free and were > > pulled from CVS a short while ago. This puts ttf-op

Re: Bug#156503: microsoft changed its policy, msttcorefonts broken

2002-08-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 03:36:42PM +0300, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: > Actually, I don't see why we should use TrueType fonts instead of Type1 > fonts. There is a set of excellent Type1 fonts from URW included in > gsfonts package under GPL; there is an extension of these fonts with > Cyrillic glyphs

Re: Linux Fonts

2002-08-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 06:47:21AM -0700, Dustin Mofos wrote: > Download the font here: > http://www.cheapskatefonts.com/fonts/Dustismo.zip Hm. I tried dropping it in as a replacement for tuxpaint's current font (simply by renaming the fonts in /usr/share/tuxpaint/fonts out of the way and copying

Re: Bug#156503: microsoft changed its policy, msttcorefonts broken

2002-08-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 05:39:13PM +0300, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: > BA> Portability. > > Can you elaborate? Which of Debian-supported platforms to not have Type1 > fonts support, and why? You are focusing on the wrong problem. Application designers choose TrueType for portability. SDL applica

Re: Linux Fonts

2002-08-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
In case Dustin doesn't pick up on this today ... On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 10:32:15AM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote: > I'll check it out asap. Have you viewed it in linux yet? I have viewed the font with gfontview. It looks OK in a few sizes and not so OK in some others. So I'm guessing the hinti

Re: Linux Fonts

2002-08-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 11:40:44AM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote: > Yes, you're right about removing the free part. I simply wanted to > make a single package of truetype fonts for ease of use. I see now > that there are a number of ttf packages, but they seem to all be asian > charsets. I'm trying

Re: Linux Fonts

2002-08-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 12:22:41PM -0700, Dustin Mofos wrote: > Making a perfectly hinted font is very, very diffecult > (the guy who made Times New Roman has said he spent 2+ > years on the hinting alone). I chose to embed bitmaps > for all the smaller sizes (no small chore). Is it > possible tha

Re: Bug#156852: ITP: ttf-dustismo -- general purpose gpl'ed truetype sans serif font

2002-08-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 04:35:01PM -0700, Michael Cardenas wrote: > Ben suggested that I make > a package for each foundry, and then a virtual package that includes > all of them. If Dustin agrees to gpl the rest of his fonts, I'll just > make a ttf-cheapskate package. Meta package. A virtual pac

Re: Bug#156852: ITP: ttf-dustismo -- general purpose gpl'ed truetype sans serif font

2002-08-19 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 12:12:41AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > That doesn't mean we have to mindlessly stick to it when packaging a 100k > font though. We also have the example of freefont, which used uner 3 mb for > 79 smaller type 1 fonts. No, but neither does it mean we need to follow the freefon

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-19 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 10:43:06PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > I think something like the LPPL would merely do the trick. Modifying the > font would be allowed, but would also require a name change. After looking over the LPPL, it looks like it would do the job. Do you know of any precedent

Re: Bug#158631: ITP: mp32ogg -- Converts mp3 file to Ogg Vorbis

2002-08-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:21:42AM +1000, Ben Burton wrote: > > > Maybe, but I think lots of people will have to convert mp3 to vorbis if mp3 > > decoder dispear from Debian. > > mp32ogg is the way to help us. > > But I still don't understand how we can have mp32ogg if mp3 decoders > disappear fr

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 05:34:20PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > hey how about something much less cryptic like "forge". Nothing worse than > having to guess what woman's name some silly coder named the program I am > looking for. > > And since most of us aren't French the names mean very

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:11:26PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > The machine itself has a name already (quantz). Oh, I retract my objection then. If the machine has a name already, why bother naming the service something obscure? Service names should be easy to remember. Ben -- nSLUG

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:34:45PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: > Ben Armstrong (2002-11-28 11:14:50 -0400) : > > Oh, I retract my objection then. If the machine has a name already, > > why bother naming the service something obscure? Service names > > should be easy to remember.

Re: keyserver.debian.org.com

2002-12-03 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 09:58:18AM -0800, Philip Brown wrote: > Has anyone noticed that someone has pseudo-hijacked > keyserver.debian.org.com > > Is this supposed to be there? > It seems to be kinda worrying that someone has registered that hostname. > Particularly since I found it by doing a dn

Re: bill gates Linux

2002-12-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 07:19:33PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > BTW: Linux has a special filesystem called "umsdos" which would allow > you to store Windows and Linux files on the same "C:" partition, but > this is not the optimal way to run Linux, so Debian does not support > umsdos-based install

Re: What should go into "How Software Producers can distribute their products directly in .deb format"?

2002-12-09 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:42:43AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think not. Debian packages from *anywhere* are not under control of BTS > > and as a consequence they have no quality assurance. > > An offhand observation: In my experience,

Re: New project proposal: debian-lex

2003-04-21 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 07:48:08PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On 20 Apr 2003, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > > OK, thanks. Here (http://people.debian.org/~terminus/debian-lex/) is a > > rough Web page which I have shamelessly plagiarised from your Debian-Med > > project. > I just builded the Debian-me

Bug#190971: ITP: libsdl-sound1.2 -- Decodes several sound file formats including wav and mp3

2003-04-27 Thread Ben Armstrong
and behind-the-scenes, if the programmer desires. I am packaging this out of necessity, since I am adopting gltron, and since version 0.62, gltron depends on SDL_sound. Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 12:10:08PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > It has become quite clear that the culture that the DD community > shares has evolved in my absence. My absence disallowed me to > evolve with it. The culture you now enjoy is not the one I left. Eh? Culture? Look, your anti-spam mea

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: > Hi, > > Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website > and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good > initiative, but there are many others that are being > excluded from the website.I've some ideas: > > - Guidel

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:51:14PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: > > Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website > > and many others[1] aren't? > > You're on crack. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/ > > It's hard to

Re: problems with atari800

2001-04-30 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:58:42PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > http://atari800.atari.org/ > > is listed as the canonical source for all things atari, but a ping of this > address simply hangs. $ whois atari.org ... NS1.ATARI.ORG212.73.17.43 NS2.GEMSOFT.NET 195.

Re: /bin/ls is impure!

2001-09-19 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:53:10AM -0400, Chris Danis wrote: > brooks% echo $COLUMNS > 49151 ... > purity seems to be causing this. No idea why or how, but it seems to be > the culprit. It would seem this is why: diff -r purity-1/pt.c purity-1.fix/pt.c 792c792 < (void) ioctl(0,TIOCSWINSZ,&

Bug#141099: ITP: xpilot-ng -- XPilot game "next generation"

2002-04-03 Thread Ben Armstrong
n, so I will include that instead. There is also a C++ map editor, but that hasn't been worked on for many months. Hopefully once we get more users for this version, that will help spur along development of one or both of these editors. Ben Armstrong -- ,-. nSLUGhttp://www.nslug.ns

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-09 Thread Ben Armstrong
wearied by the petty bickering your innocent request has spawned, my sincerest apologies for the manner of my colleague. I am sure you are aware that in a volunteer organization it takes all kinds, with diverse, and often conflicting viewpoints. While I value Jeroen's contributions in other

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-09 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 08:58:20PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > Of course you can say that in the social contract says "Thus, although > non-free software isn't a part of Debian, we support its use," but if > I interpret that correctly, it just means the non-free software > packages provided by D

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-09 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:48:59PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > Hmm, I knew somebody would find something to complain about in my > second try to word my opinion. I'm not even going to try to do it a > third time. I'm sorry. That just doesn't wash. I read: "I knew somebody would ... complain"

Re: Bits from the Eee PC team, Spring 2009

2009-05-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sat, 23 May 2009 15:56:05 +0200 Samuel Thibault wrote: > Ben Armstrong, le Sat 23 May 2009 10:38:51 -0300, a écrit : > > Accessibility > > > > we understand that some users also need software synthesized > >text-to-speech, something for which the

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/15/2012 02:18 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > I am a bit scared by the catastrophic potential of > cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX > for X = valuable hard disk. I've wondered about that, too, when working on the relevant section of the Debian Live Manual. > Maybe one should advise people to first r

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/16/2012 06:10 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Bjørn Mork writes: >> No, you don't. On a default Debian system you need to be a member of >> the "floppy" group. From /lib/udev/rules.d/91-permissions.rules : > > Yeah but you are not a member of that group by default surely? $ debconf-sho

Re: greater popularity of Debian on AMD64?

2012-09-05 Thread Ben Armstrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/05/2012 02:10 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > Nothing we can do about it now. The news posting at http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2012/17/#amd64 could be edited to change the first reference to amd64 in the text to link to http://www.debian.org

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-11 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 09/11/2012 12:55 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Josselin Mouette writes ("Re: Gnome classic mode"): >> Can we move on now? I don’t even understand how a *one-time warning* >> explaining a user that his desktop will look different from what he >> might obtain on another Debian machine can even be a ser

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-11 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 09/11/2012 01:11 PM, Ben Armstrong wrote: > every time the live image is booted they will see this image unless they > happen to be using ^ I meant to say "see this error message", not "see this image". ug

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-11 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 09/11/2012 02:22 PM, Wookey wrote: > If the message tells people to select 'gnome classic' in the logon > menu to make it go away then that seems reasonable to me. Again, not really an option for our live images. Two obvious options are: 1. Modify the live image to silently fail over to gnome

[OT] Bridge burning

2013-07-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 28/07/13 09:51 AM, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > It doesn't look like trolling to me... Sure, the question is a bit odd > on a Debian forum, but it was posted in the "Offtopic" area, and I > think it's perfectly valid to ask that question there. Some people > might use Debian derivatives, and are on

Bug#719307: ITP: ruby-parseconfig -- Simple standard configuration file parser for Ruby

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Armstrong * Package name: ruby-parseconfig Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Author : BJ Dierkes * URL : https://github.com/derks/ruby-parseconfig & http://rubygems.org/gems/parseconfig * License : MIT Programming

Bug#719308: ITP: ruby-rack-flash3 -- Flash hash for Ruby Rack applications

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Armstrong * Package name: ruby-rack-flash3 Version : 1.0.3 Upstream Author : Pat Nakajima & Travis Reeder * URL : https://github.com/treeder/rack-flash & https://rubygems.org/gems/rack-flash3 * License

Bug#719310: ITP: ruby-simple-navigation -- A library to create navigations for Ruby web applications

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Armstrong * Package name: ruby-simple-navigation Version : 3.11.0 Upstream Author : Andi Schacke & Mark J. Titorenko * URL : https://github.com/andi/simple-navigation & http://rubygems.org/gems/simple-navigation *

Bug#719312: ITP: ruby-sinatra-simple-navigation -- Create simple navigations for Sinatra or Padrino web applications

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Armstrong * Package name: ruby-sinatra-simple-navigation Version : 3.6.0 Upstream Author : Andi Schacke & Mark J. Titorenko * URL : https://github.com/andi/sinatra-simple-navigation & http://rubygems.org/gems

Bug#719313: ITP: ruby-blockenspiel -- A comprehensive implementation of Ruby DSL blocks

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Armstrong * Package name: ruby-blockenspiel Version : 0.4.5 Upstream Author : Daniel Azuma * URL : http://dazuma.github.io/blockenspiel/ & http://rubygems.org/gems/blockenspiel * License : 3 Clause

Bug#719314: ITP: ruby-versionomy -- A generalized version number class for Ruby

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Armstrong * Package name: ruby-versionomy Version : 0.4.4 Upstream Author : Daniel Azuma * URL : http://dazuma.github.io/versionomy/ & http://rubygems.org/gems/versionomy * License : 3 Clause BSD Programming

Bug#719315: ITP: taskwarrior-web -- A web interface for the Taskwarrior todo application

2013-08-10 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Armstrong * Package name: taskwarrior-web Version : 1.1.11 Upstream Author : Jake Bell * URL : https://github.com/theunraveler/taskwarrior-web & https://rubygems.org/gems/taskwarrior-web * License : MIT, G

Bug#721611: ITP: libjs-tinycon -- Library to manipulate the favicon by adding an alert bubble

2013-09-02 Thread Ben Armstrong
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Armstrong * Package name: libjs-tinycon Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Tom Moor * URL : https://github.com/tommoor/tinycon * License : MIT Programming Lang: Javascript Description : A small library to

Re: Processed: Re: Bug#646019: general: torrent on USB-HDD cause disk disconnect

2011-10-20 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 20/10/11 08:31 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 17:39 +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: >> Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: >> >>> reassign 646019 cdimage.debian.org > > WTF? Isn't this a kernel driver bug? my mistake. i had not read it carefully enough.

Re: Bug#661565: ITP: nyancat -- Terminal-based Pop Tart Cat animation

2012-02-28 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 28/02/12 09:08 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Lars Wirzenius , 2012-02-28, 12:58: >> Is this worth including in Debian? It's funny for several >> microfortnights, but how many people really need to install this? > > Completely agreed. We should not accept any new packages in section > games and then

Document Debian version#s, not just codenames, (was: Feedback)

2012-12-25 Thread Ben Armstrong
Mistikos, In spite of your trollish approach to the topic, let's try to make something constructive of your request: On 25/12/12 08:50 AM, Mistikos Nik wrote: > It constantly refers to Debian versions by their nick names, and not their > versions. Please furnish links/references to specific pla

Bug#697270: PC 32-bit programs fails to work on amd64

2013-01-03 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 01/03/2013 02:16 PM, Alexey Eromenko wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >> >> release and lsb-base being Architecture: foreign). Patches are welcome to >> make >> Wheezy+1 more suitable to your needs. > > How about changing it from a kernel bug to tasksel fea

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 04/04/2013 12:05 PM, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote: > Do you think there is any way that the relevance of posts to a bug > report can be determined, without reference to the context in which they > appear, *all the preceeding discussion*? So far as I can see, nobody doubts your intentions. But y

Re: so long, and thanks for all the fish

2013-04-04 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 04/04/13 02:28 PM, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote: > On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:45:55 -0300 > Ben Armstrong wrote: > >> Just take care in future that the style of communications you used >> triggered someone's "wetware spam filter" with a false positive. >

Re: DPL 2013: Lats call for votes

2013-04-13 Thread Ben Armstrong
> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 8367b943-96ac-4530-afbd-529da5fc4fd5 > [ 3 ] Choice 1: Gergely Nagy > [ 2 ] Choice 2: Moray Allan > [ 1 ] Choice 3: Lucas Nussbaum > [ 4 ] Choice 4: None Of The Above > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These

Re: DPL 2013: Lats call for votes

2013-04-13 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 13/04/13 07:46 AM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 06:52:01AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: >>> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > [...] > > So you're the second person that doesn't follow the hea

Re: Upstream packaging (was Re: Derivatives, MongoDB and freezes)

2013-04-25 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 04/25/2013 09:40 AM, Andreas Tille wrote: > There are actually users who do not "see" the system but just the > topping. Yes, but I don't think we should encourage any users in this skewed view of the system. > I would never try to blame the user about this. Nor would I. However, I would not

Re: Removing packages from unofficial repositories

2014-01-02 Thread Ben Armstrong
Simon, On 01/02/2014 01:52 PM, Simon Ruggier wrote: > I'm writing to suggest that in the long term, Debian's package > management should have a general, user-friendly way to deal with > situations like this, such as a mechanism to remove a repository > subscription, and all package versions that c

Re: Removing packages from unofficial repositories

2014-01-03 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 01/03/2014 07:41 AM, Виталий Филиппов wrote: > AFAIK the apt_preferences method is rather simple: > > Package: * > Pin: release o=Debian > Pin-Priority: 1001 > > With that setting 'apt-get dist-upgrade' downgrades DMO packages to > official ones. At least it did in my case. > > For me, findin

Re: Removing packages from unofficial repositories

2014-01-03 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 03/01/14 01:39 PM, Виталий Филиппов wrote: > If you have other 3rdparty repos, you'll also need to set 1001 for all > of them (except DMO), that should be enough. Simon wanted "a general, user-friendly way to deal with situations like this". This is neither. > And of course strictly speaking i

Re: Back to technical discussion? Yes! (was: network-manager as default? No!)

2011-04-04 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 04/04/2011 10:06 AM, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: > There is only one thing that can be used without reading a manual. It > is a breast. All the other devices (and things, substances, etc) > required to be studied. While this paraphrase of a familiar quote may be applicable when taken in context (

Re: Back to technical discussion? Yes! (was: network-manager as default? No!)

2011-04-04 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 04/04/2011 10:31 AM, Stanislav Maslovski wrote: > I do not think that reading documentation before trying to achieve > something is that elitist. And in the case of wpa_supplicant, it is > definitely not dozens of pages. Basically, it is just > > man interfaces > man wpa_supplicant.conf > zless

Re: Back to technical discussion? Yes! (was: network-manager as default? No!)

2011-04-04 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 04/04/2011 11:03 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > I think squeeze already does a lot better, but there is still work to > do, especially with the installation process. > > On my personal wishlist for wheezy is d-i actually calling NM behind the > scenes to configure the network, instead of ifupdow

Re: Back to technical discussion? Yes!

2011-04-05 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 04/05/2011 05:21 AM, Stanislav Maslovski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 12:09:42PM +0400, Stanislav Maslovski wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 09:10:47AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >>> ]] Stanislav Maslovski >>> d-i doesn't use ifupdown, it uses netcfg. >> >> Hm, okay, I was pretty sure J

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 10:49 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > What's up with the hate? It's always convenient to have a package in > Debian, instead of hunting for it upstream. If it rots in Debian, then > it can easily be removed again (or left in Unstable). Wrong. Every additional package costs the whol

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Q: How many content management systems written in php does Debian need? > A: How about zero? > > Not exactly helpful. When developers are passionately opposed to a particular technology (and not without reason here, I think,) they can be a bit

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
We can stop CCing the bug# now, as this subthread is apparently no longer about the ITP itself, but about "proper" conduct in discussing an ITP. On 05/06/2011 01:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Strange that you read 'support' into my responses. By support, I hope you understand I mean the De

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 02:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > I was responding to someone who said I 'supported' inclusion of proposed > package. Ah, I misunderstood. My apologies. > Yeah, good point. So it's not enough for packager to say he will be > responsive to problems? Packages, once uploaded, en

Re: alternative dependency ordering - with respect of packages in main

2011-09-20 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 09/20/2011 08:43 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Package: bar > Depends: foo > > Package: foo-contrib > Provides: foo While that neatly sidesteps the issue, 7.5 says: To specify which of a set of real packages should be the default to

Re: alternative dependency ordering - with respect of packages in main

2011-09-21 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 20/09/11 06:24 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > In my intended case I believe they always end up with foo from main, > only if they choose foo-contrib will they get it, which is how I think > it should be. main should not reference packages from contrib/non-free > in any way. If that's how it works, then

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 16/01/15 08:15 AM, Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 07:32:41AM +1100, Riley Baird wrote: >> (Also, in any case, don't you think that this game is going a little too >> far? It's fine to be opposed to systemd, but don't do to Lennart > > Well, do you see a difference to the original

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
her a package is suitable to enter Debian or not. So yes, it's a necessary part of the process. > On 01/16/2015 03:48 PM, Ben Armstrong wrote: >> Do you honestly not see the difference between poking fun at an >> upstream that is at the center of an ongoing controversy vs. poking >

Re: Bug#775436: ITP: xlennart -- An XBill fork but with Lennart and SystenD instead of Bill and Wingdows

2015-01-16 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 16/01/15 11:34 AM, Markus Koschany wrote: > My personal opinion is that both XBill and xlennart are mildly > entertaining and it is rather immature to depict living people as a > "virus". The message is either silly or offensive. While we're talking about personal opinions, and clarifying for D

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-05 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: > 2.2 potatoe > 2.3 andy > 2.4 davis > 3.0 sergeant > 3.1 hannah Bo was taken, but how about "Peep"? Ben -- nSLUG http://www.nslug.ns.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chebuctohttp://

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: > > What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? > > > > The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The > > current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality. Lots of > > things don't work. It sounds like there will pro

Re: An abrupt End to Debian Live

2015-11-09 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 09/11/15 12:47 PM, Daniel Baumann wrote: > So long, and thanks for all the fish[7]. > > Daniel > > [7] http://live.debian.net/project/downstream/ > Enough bitter words have been said. I don't want to add any more. So: I'm proud. Indeed, that long list of downstreams does speak to the impact y

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