Re: Redefining critical bug severity

2014-05-18 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 01:02:08PM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Over the years, I've seen endless confusion about the current definition > > of a critical bug severity: Totally agree. > > makes unrelated software on the system (or the whole system) break, or > > causes serious data l

Re: Bug#745872: ITP: profanity -- a console based XMPP client

2014-06-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 09:32:05PM +0200, Stefano Rossi wrote: > Hello Dariusz and Andrey, > > I'd love to see a Profanity package for Debian. Are you, Dariusz, still > working on it? > I also would like to know, why would the OpenSSL requirement make it > impossible t

Bug#620272: ITP: dwarftherapist -- Helper tool for Dwarf Fortress game

2011-03-31 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrey Rahmatullin * Package name: dwarftherapist Version : 0.6.10+hgNN Upstream Author : Trey Stout * URL : http://code.google.com/p/dwarftherapist/ * License : Expat Programming Lang: C++ Description : Helper

Bug#622172: ITP: git-hg -- Script to track mercurial repositories in git

2011-04-10 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrey Rahmatullin * Package name: git-hg Version : 20110408-1 Upstream Author : Barak A. Pearlmutter * URL : https://github.com/barak/git-hg * License : Expat Programming Lang: Bash Description : Script to

Re: Bug#622172: ITP: git-hg -- Script to track mercurial repositories in git

2011-04-10 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 07:52:52PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > The right approach for mercurial tracking is IMHO > https://github.com/SRabbelier/git/tree/remote-hg I've asked about the right way to do that at http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2011/04/msg00171.html yesterday and didn't receive

Re: Something wrong with eglibc 2.13-3 ?

2011-05-12 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:35:16AM +0200, Lech Karol Pawłaszek wrote: > You've just encountered: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626450 > > I've fixed it this way: > # /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 /bin/ln -s /lib /lib64 > # /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 /usr/bin/dpkg --configure -a Not

Re: /run in experimental

2011-05-13 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 08:29:40PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > Switching to /run/ triggers a critical bug in ifupdown's init script > > (#623076, #623523, proposed change in #625204). This completely breaks > > any kind of network access (including lo), if /etc/network/run is a > > symlink to /

Re: Additional info about recommended/suggested packages

2011-05-17 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:26:13PM +0200, Eshat Cakar wrote: > At the moment there is no way to get more information about > suggested/recommended packages, except their names. In particular I am > talking > about which functionality is added when also installing them. Yes, I think there should

Re: double checking Debian's 686-pae vs. -486 probe

2011-05-24 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 05:32:08PM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > JM> How about trying a “grep pae /proc/cpuinfo” instead of looking for > JM> approximate CPU descriptions? > And indeed lshw says > product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.40GHz > capabilities: fpu fpu_exc

Re: double checking Debian's 686-pae vs. -486 probe

2011-05-24 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 08:58:43AM -0700, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > JM> How about trying a “grep pae /proc/cpuinfo” instead of looking for > > > JM> approximate CPU descriptions? > > > And indeed lshw says > > > product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.40GHz > > > capabilitie

Re: Bug#629641: ITP: filo -- FILe and stream Operations

2011-06-08 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 08:02:34PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > shuffle will randomize the order of lines in a file. In other words, > if you have a sorted file, shuffle will undo the sort. sort -R Also, biosquid package contains /usr/bin/shuffle. > stats is a small utility for computing desc

Re: Bug#634811: ITP: dillo -- fast and light web browser based on FLTK 1.3

2011-07-20 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:42:07AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > How does the (unreleased) version compare with Arora (my current > > candidate for "small but usable web browser") and how soon is it > > likely to be ready for release? > Arora is just a yet another interface for webkit; it takes

Re: Bug#634811: ITP: dillo -- fast and light web browser based on FLTK 1.3

2011-07-20 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 07:40:40PM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: > > > On the other hand, Dillo's support for CSS and such is sketchy at best. > > > There's no javascript or anything of that kind as well. > > What about links2 -g? > > JavaScript support in links2 has been killed by upstream in the 2.

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:46:47PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Anyway, qemu-img can convert a raw disk image > into many other formats. So you generate one raw image, and then > convert it to any other formats using qemu-img. Also, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_disk_image#Vir

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-31 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 05:04:21PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Having said that, I do agree with you that it could benefit from either > better documentation, or a command for system admins to use which would > enable or disable initscripts. RedHat (and similars) have 'chkconfig' > which does t

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-31 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:20:45PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > >That this is not particularly useful is not specific to any init > > >implementation. I hate 'ENABLED=' configuration options with a passion. > > >They do not make *any* sense, even init.d has a documented (and what's > > They do

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 08:27:04PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 05:38:43PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > I would be glad if all services (at least network-enabled or especially > > insecure for other reasons) didn't start by default. > Maybe eve

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 12:14:31PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > > I would be glad if all services (at least network-enabled or especially > > > > insecure for other reasons) didn't start by default. > > > Maybe everyone would be happy if there were a central place to set > > > the administrator

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:52:13PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > even init.d has a documented (and what's > > more, actually *working*) implementation of not starting daemons at > > boot. It's called 'remove the *** symlink'. > If you remove them, they'll be recreated by the next upgrade; th

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 08:27:04PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > > I would be glad if all services (at least network-enabled or especially > > insecure for other reasons) didn't start by default. > Maybe everyone would be happy if there were a central place to set > the administrator's preferred poli

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 05:59:45PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > > > I would be glad if all services (at least network-enabled or especially > > > > insecure for other reasons) didn't start by default. > > > Maybe everyone would be happy if there were a central place to set > > > the administra

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-05 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:35:49PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > If you do want it started, that means you need to install it first. Then > it makes very much sense it is started automatically. Logical fallacy: "run" implies "install", but "install" doesn't always mean "run". -- WBR, wRAR sig

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-05 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:12:58PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > > If you do want it started, that means you need to install it first. Then > > > it makes very much sense it is started automatically. > > Logical fallacy: "run" implies "install", but "install" doesn't always > > mean "run". > Whi

Re: The archive now supports xz compression

2011-08-15 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:25:42AM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > What about zless & Co.? Are they available for xz as well? xz-utils contains xzless, xzcat etc. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Dependencies of metapackages

2011-08-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 04:40:30PM +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > they decided to remove one of (typically) gnome's dependencies, which > caused the metapackage to be removed as well. That also causes an effect of "GNOME gets removed!" even without any additional autoremoved packages :( -- WBR

Re: Where can I found resource to make very simple Debian package like doc-linux-html… ?

2011-08-31 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 09:54:28AM +0200, Stéphane Klein wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to make very simple Debian package to install very > simple file on my system, only static file, like documentation. The only difference between a project with static files and a project with software is usually

Re: DEP5: proposed versioned url for Format: does not work

2011-09-06 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 05:56:25PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > This is a minor issue,but I would propose to change it to > > http://svn.debian.org/viewvc/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?revision=REVISION > > if the Format field should point to a specific svn version of the > > document. However, as f

Re: Bug#641624: ITP: wcslib -- Implementation of the FITS WCS standard

2011-09-15 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
within the international astronomical community, from the radio to gamma-ray regimes, for data interchange and archive, and also increasingly as an online format. Setting up an upstream tracker [1] for wcslib ... [1] http://linuxtesting.org/upstream-tracker/versions/wcslib.html -- Andrey P

Bug#642311: ITP: ipdb -- IPython-based pdb replacement

2011-09-21 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrey Rahmatullin * Package name: ipdb Version : 0.6 Upstream Author : Godefroid Chapelle * URL : http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ipdb * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : IPython-based pdb

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-25 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 08:03:44PM +, Noel Torres wrote: > > > Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of > > > signature? Are they trying to insinuate that Debian is theirs? > > > > Wow! A dipshit crazy conspiracy theory about systemd and its > > proponents. Haven't see

Re: Please respect Freeze Policy

2014-12-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 03:36:37PM +, Sam Hartman wrote: > Didier> (Snipping others' parts, and moving to -devel) > > Didier> Given the (current) small exposure of > Didier> testing-proposed-updates (aka the repository has very few > Didier> users, therefore the packages there

Re: Please respect Freeze Policy

2014-12-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 09:39:48PM +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > > Hi. You assert that even for leaf packages we should not make changes > > > in unstable targeted beyond jessie. I can see an argument for that > > > prior to the important bug deadline. However, past that point, I don't > > > see

Re: Should .a library contains non-reallocatable code?

2015-02-22 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 08:18:33PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > Here are two scenarios where building a static library (libfoo) with > > -fPIC is desirable: > > > > * libbar has a stable API, so it should be shipped as a .so, > >but if it links libfoo.a, and libfoo.a is not -fPIC, then

Re: setlocale doesn't change the language. Why?

2015-03-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 01:27:21PM +, Joerg Desch wrote: > Switch to 'en' > New LOCALE: 'C' > Hello World > Switch to 'de' > New LOCALE: 'C' > Hello World So these cases are expected to you? > Switch to 'de.utf8' > New LOCALE: 'de_DE.UTF8' > Hallo Welt > > And on the embedded PC: > # ./sample

Re: GooString

2015-06-24 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:11:25AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > GooString is referenced in pdftohtml.cc. What is its purpose > or purposes? Wrong list? -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#790399: ITP: structlog -- tructured Logging for Python

2015-06-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:22:30AM +0200, Adrien CLERC wrote: > Le 29/06/2015 02:51, Filippo Giunchedi a écrit : > > * Package name: structlog > Hi, > > It seems to be a Python library (in the main site, I can read that it is > used as an imported module), it should be named python-structlog.

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 04:55:58PM +, lumin wrote: > I have no trouble on making my personal choises, what I want to know > is, what would you do to protect your software freedom, when the > reality requires you to touch non-free blobs? ... such as firmwares in various microcontrollers in your

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 07:48:26PM +0200, Michael Ole Olsen wrote: > non-free, only the developer wins, and those that have enough money to buy > > free software lets poor countries use pcs. You are making a grave mistake here (and below). Should I point it to you? -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc D

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 07:40:28PM +0200, Jan Gloser wrote: > So from my perspective - feel free to use non-free software, but remember > to pay for it, at least if the price is reasonable ;-). What to do with non-free software that doesn't require payment? It's the matter the original message was

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-18 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 10:52:33AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > > Distributing them to Debian recipients makes the implicit promise that > > they are free by the DFSG, or that they should be removed from Debian if > > that's discovered to be untrue. > > Can't we just put non-free logos to non-fre

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

2015-07-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:10:10PM +0200, Antonio Diaz Diaz wrote: > >TBH this smells like FUD. For example I've never heard of corruption in > >.xz files due to non-robustness, I'd expect that corruption to come from > >external forces, and that integrity would help or not detect it. > > Sure it

Re: Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

2015-07-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 07:11:15PM +0200, Antonio Diaz Diaz wrote: > I guess we are thinking about different use cases here: verifying a package > that can be easily downloaded again in case of corruption, vs decompressing > the only copy of an irreplaceable file. Indeed. > BTW, telling a user tha

Re: A couple a questions regarding the packaging

2015-07-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 08:26:23PM +0200, Marcin M. wrote: > 1. There are two repos on GitHub, yhara/down (upstream) and marmistrz/down. > In marmistrz/down I'll create all the adaptation for Debian packaging. In > Vcs-Git, should I point to my repo or to the upstream one? https://www.debian.org/do

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

2015-07-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 09:20:33PM +0200, Antonio Diaz Diaz wrote: > >>I guess we are thinking about different use cases here: verifying a package > >>that can be easily downloaded again in case of corruption, vs decompressing > >>the only copy of an irreplaceable file. > >Indeed. > So you agree th

Re: Bits from the Wanna Build team

2015-08-22 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 04:35:15PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > I feel that arch:all packages requiring a specific architecture (or not > > buildable on amd64) are quite marginal. > On the other hand, there's a crapload of arch:all packages that fail on > !amd64 despite having no valid excuse.

Re: Bits from the Wanna Build team

2015-08-22 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 09:26:07PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > >> -- are arch:all packages not building on other architectures worth filing > >> FTBFS bugs for? > > > > I think this should be reported (it's probably common sense that you > > should be able to rebuild a package on a given support

Re: Minutes from the "32bit architectures in Debian"-bof

2015-08-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 09:38:04AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > Specific issues: > > > - for i386, there is still sold new hardware with 32bit-only. Are > > > there open issues for i386 (apart from the 32bit-generic ones)? > > > > FWIW, for x32, the security team would prefer if support in

Re: no{thing} build profiles

2018-10-24 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 03:40:12PM +, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > What are the values of the crypt_use_gpgme setting in each case? > Could it be that mutt and neomutt actually have different defaults > (one using gpg(1) directly and the other using GPGME) here? According to codesear

Re: Installer: 32 vs. 64 bit

2018-10-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 02:41:31PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > I've been encouraging my students to install Debian on their personal > machines, and we've found out that a lot of them get the wrong Debian > installer: > > - some of them attempt to install an AMD64 version of Debian in >

Re: julia_1.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-25 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 08:37:28PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > >> Before we get there, we should first start autoremoving packages from > >> unstable, if we consider rc-buggy in unstable to be unacceptable. We > >> do have quite a bit of things in unstable, that are neither getting > >> fixed, nor

Re: julia_1.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-11-25 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 10:25:44AM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > >> If someone does want to come along and fix the package, having it pass > >> through NEW again is not a good use of ftpteam time. > > Sounds like NEW is the problem, not other parts? > > Not sure what you mean. I mean it seems tha

Re: NEW and RC bugs (Re: julia_1.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2018-11-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 08:38:56AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > The experimental distribution is a good place for work in > > > progress. Maybe the rules for automatic rejects can be relaxed for > > > experimental so a package can go into the archive (and have e.g. the BTS > > > used for tha

Re: Is using experimental distribution for shelter during freeze useful?

2018-11-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 08:38:46PM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > Cons) > - Harder to get users for test with testing-proposed-updates repository My understanding of the current consensus is that this is the main reason for using the current workflow. Nobody would test anything except sid and test

Re: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-28 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 07:52:08AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > As long as there is one Debian Developer (or any other person who has the > right to upload binary packages) who has a merged /usr on his system used > for building packages, there is a risk of reintroducing the bug through hi

Re: Tainted builds (was Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-28 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 02:48:32PM -0200, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > Would you be willing to also implement > > Tainted-By: not-built-in-a-chroot That doesn't mean anything. You can build in a bad chroot and you can build in a clean minimal sid system which is not a chroot but a VM. > (ischr

Re: Tainted builds (was Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-28 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 06:40:46PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Wed, 2018-11-28 at 22:13:41 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 02:48:32PM -0200, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > > (ischroot(1) is from debianutils which is Essential). > > > &quo

Re: Plugin link options

2018-12-13 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 03:39:40PM +0200, Tommi Höynälänmaa wrote: > Should the linker option "-Wl,--as-needed" be used for plugins, e.g. guile > plugins? Debmake suggests using the option for the linker. Are they actually buildable with that option? -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Depends of libnss3

2018-12-18 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 01:19:54PM +, Daniel Reichelt wrote: > why does libnss3/buster depend on libc6 >= 2.28 for i386 but for amd64, > >= 2.14 suffices? Symbols, I'm sure. > Is there a technical rationale for this You can compare the symbol lists to find the differences, I suppose. -- WBR

Re: Conflict over /usr/bin/dune

2018-12-18 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
Even firefox was renamed twice. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Pkg-julia-devel] julia_1.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2018-12-20 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 01:49:29PM +, Mo Zhou wrote: > I'm declaring this in advance, so if anyone see something dirty happend > on the Julia binary packages, please don't report any bug against that > dirty solution. I'm afraid it doesn't matter for a broken package if the brokenness is declar

Re: Nix and non-standard-toplevel-dir

2019-01-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 07:10:06PM +0100, Kai Harries wrote: > [4] https://nixos.org/~eelco/pubs/phd-thesis.pdf This is an interesting text. It shows that the author has read the FHS but chose to ignore it. The only ref to FHS is in the following text: """ For instance, storing components in an es

Re: package management symlink

2019-02-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Feb 05, 2019 at 07:22:21AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > You need to create a Debian package that contains your symlink (or bash > script), and then either find someone to sponsor uploads of your package > into Debian, or become a Debian Maintainer or Developer to do so > yourself. > >

Re: Use of the Build-Conflicts field

2019-02-16 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 07:44:29AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > I think it boils down to the question of «Are builds outside of a > minimal + build-essential + build-deps» supported?». If they're not, we > can just ignore the problem and deprecate the Build-Conflicts field > (since it has no us

Re: Please drop anacron from task-desktop

2019-03-08 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 07:28:11PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > There's a problem with extending the syntax: we have not one but five cron > implementations in the distributions, and all would need to be in sync, Not necessarily. Being in sync isn't required for init scripts. -- WBR, wRAR sign

Re: Seeking hardening flag / blhc expoert

2019-04-05 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 09:07:01PM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Is there any hardening flag / cmake expert around who could help me > get the hardening flags perfect in MariaDB 10.3? Start with https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening#Notes_for_packages_using_CMake > d/rules: > https://salsa.debian.or

Re: Seeking hardening flag / blhc expoert

2019-04-05 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 09:55:34PM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Hello! > > > > Is there any hardening flag / cmake expert around who could help me > > > get the hardening flags perfect in MariaDB 10.3? > > Start with https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening#Notes_for_packages_using_CMake > > I've rea

Re: Seeking hardening flag / blhc expoert

2019-04-05 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 10:17:16PM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > So apparently the 'D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' is in CPPFLAGS (not read by > cmake) but not in CXXFLAGS (read by cmake)[1]. That's what the wiki page says, yes. > So maybe I should define? > CXXFLAGS=$(CXXFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) That's the spir

Re: Seeking hardening flag / blhc expoert

2019-04-05 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 09:07:06PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > CMake is a bit "special" in that regard. To get the right hardening > flags to work for some parts of Bacula, we had to include the following > patch to kind-of brute force the flags: > https://salsa.debian.org/bacula-team/bacula/blob/m

Re: [Idea] Debian User Repository? (Not simply mimicing AUR)

2019-04-07 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
Isn't the Bikesheds initiative just this? -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Idea] Debian User Repository? (Not simply mimicing AUR)

2019-04-07 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 02:17:00PM +, Mo Zhou wrote: > However, I got a hint from a fellow developer and learned that > "Bikeshed" has its own meaning under Debian's context, according > to some old mailing list fragments[2][3] -- which refers to a > dak feature (This is the first time I heard

Re: duprkit User Repository

2019-04-08 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 09:58:26AM +, Mo Zhou wrote: > AUR's PKGBUILD, Fedora/CentOS/RedHat's .spec, Gentoo's .ebuild, > all of them are single-file format. The advantages of single-file > format includes easy distribution, e.g. copying & pasting from > webpages (you cannot copy a directory fro

Re: is Wayland/Weston mature enough to be the default desktop choice in Buster?

2019-04-08 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 01:08:42PM -0400, Peter Silva wrote: > https://www.cnx-software.com/2018/08/27/rockpro64-rk3399-board-linux-review-ubuntu-18-04/ > > 71fps or es2gears? Is es2gears a benchmark, unlike glxgears? -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: is Wayland/Weston mature enough to be the default desktop choice in Buster?

2019-04-08 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 05:59:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > * nvidia proprietary: doesn't work with new kernels. It does, even nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms says "Building the kernel modules has been tested up to Linux 4.20.". -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: PPAs (Re: [Idea] Debian User Repository? (Not simply mimicing AUR))

2019-04-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 09:54:47AM +, Mo Zhou wrote: > Any link please? Both apt-file-search and google found nothing. It's in contrib. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/game-data-packager -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: native packages? (Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells")

2019-04-13 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 12:59:19PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > I see no point whatsoever in 3.0 (native). > > The main advantage of 3.0 (native) is that it makes it explicit that > > the package is deliberately native [...] > > ok, sorry, I ment to say: I see no point whatsoever in native pa

Re: Bits from the Release Team: buster freeze update

2019-04-16 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 08:44:20AM +1000, Hugh McMaster wrote: > > At the time of writing 150 release-critical bugs affect buster. This is the > > number which needs to reach zero before the release can take place. > > > What’s the easiest way to get a list of these RC bugs? https://udd.debian.or

Re: native packages? (Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells")

2019-04-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 02:27:58PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > > > > I see no point whatsoever in 3.0 (native). > > > > What's the point/advantage of native packages? > > > No need to make a separate orig tarball. > > the irony here is that native packages also require an upstream tarball, S

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-04-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:40:39AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > that's a monstrosity -- my personal preference is raw git, where updating to > a new upstream is "git merge v3.14.15" gbp allows this too, of course. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-04-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:18:48AM +0200, Gard Spreemann wrote: > For one of my packages, I maintain two public git branches: one is > upstream/latest, where I've been importing upstream's released tarballs, > and the other is debian/sid that contains the packaging. > > Recently, upstream has fina

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 12:02:26AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > We have various applications that only want to extract single members of > > the package (changelog, NEWS, copyright, ...); tar is a really bad > > format for such an operation. Other formats (zip, 7z, ...) are more > > suited for

Re: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH

2019-05-14 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 11:11:46AM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > How well are you testing such conversions? > Based on work I've seen from you I'd guess your NMU would be better than > average. Unfortunately this is not generally true. > > Based on what enters the archive, "debdiff between old and

Re: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH

2019-05-14 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 09:10:04AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 02:07:11PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > One can go further and say that people uploading broken packages are the > > actual problem. After all, we have several classes of bugs cause

Re: @debian.org mail

2019-05-28 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 11:19:37PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > Forwarding mail from @debian.org to my mailbox makes me apply > complicated filters to stay subscribed to ML I wish. Why? -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices)

2019-05-28 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 08:43:55AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > IMHO this touches another burning topic: Its not that we do not want to > provide some PPA equivalent - its just that we do not realise it. I do > not remember how many years ago we talked about bikesheds (and > obviously we even fo

Re: Survey: git packaging practices / repository format

2019-05-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 02:14:09PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > [...] > > My understanding is that this unusual difference between the .orig > > tarball and what's in git is an attempt to "square the circle" between > > two colliding design principles: "the .orig tarball should be upstream's > > o

Re: Survey: git packaging practices / repository format

2019-05-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 12:20:23PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > >> Perhaps we should update policy to say that the .orig tarball may > >> (or even "should") be generated from an upstream release tag > >> where applicable. > Andrey> This

Re: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH

2019-06-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 01:37:46PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > I’d also throw in that monocultures are not good, and that people > in general are happier when they aren’t forced into anything. Yet people in general are also happier when they don't need to learn all ways to do something. > Just

Re: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH

2019-06-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 04:10:38PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > I’d also throw in that monocultures are not good, and that people in > > > general are happier when they aren’t forced into anything. > > Yet people in general are also happier when they don't need to learn > > all ways to do

Re: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH

2019-06-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 02:27:03PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > No. A maintainer normally deals with their own packages, or with > .dsc and debdiff, for NMU. (This is also an answer to the reply > from wrar. Oh, jonas also said so, reloading the list index page.) A maintainer normally deals with

Re: getting rid of "testing"

2019-06-24 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 08:08:22AM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > Hi, > > what do people think about getting rid of current suite names ("stable", > "testing", "unstable") for most purposes? We already recommend using > codenames instead as those don't change their meaning when a new release > happens. A

Re: getting rid of "testing"

2019-06-25 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 09:46:00AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > Related to that I would like to be able to write something like > > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian debian11 main > > deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security debian11-security main > > in sources.list as codenames confus

Re: Content Rating System in Debian

2019-06-25 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:43:56PM +0200, Paride Legovini wrote: > My question is: are we trying to solve an actual problem here? No, and please note that the author is not even a Debian user: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2019/06/msg00376.html -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PG

Re: getting rid of "testing"

2019-06-25 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 06:28:13PM +0200, Alf Gaida wrote: > > oldoldstable has the value of demonstrating some of what's wrong with > > the current system > > Can you please explain, i don't get it That name is stupid. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: getting rid of "testing"

2019-06-25 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:40:01PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > and so on - i take the older releases only as reference. > > I just do something like look at https://packages.debian.org/ssh > Or, if I'm really curious about versions, then something like > http://snapshot.debian.org/package/open

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 01:53:35PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote: > TLDR; year based release identifiers should be prefered since they are > much more intuitive to reason about than codenames and sequentialy > numbered release identifiers. > > If Debian should improve/change release identifiers, the

Re: Let's consider using year based release identifiers [was: Re: getting rid of "testing"]

2019-06-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 06:17:12PM +0400, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > >>> As others here I am starting to get confused by the release code > >>> names, as are my peers that are not that much into Debian. And > >>> sequential release numbers are devoid of any semantics except for > >>> their monotonicall

Re: Survey: git packaging practices / repository format

2019-07-01 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 03:04:26PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 29.05.19 17:41, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > >> Perhaps we should update policy to say that the .orig tarball may (or > >> even "should") be generated from an upstream

Re: Seeking advice re: CVE-2019-13179 (insecure permissions for initramfs)

2019-07-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 08:59:26AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > The rationale is that on systems with full disk encryption the initramfs > probably isn't encrypted > > I personally think sticking your full disk encryption keys onto the > initramfs doesn't have a lot of value. These two things are

Re: buster backports question/status

2019-07-10 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:54:21AM +0200, olivier sallou wrote: > So, am I doing something wrong? You tried to install a package (what package? they don't exist) from a repo that doesn't exist. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: buster backports question/status

2019-07-10 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:29:01AM +0200, olivier sallou wrote: > I tried a package that is not in backports, it was just for test (for an > automation tool I use) > It should fail with a *package not found* , but should not fail about > buster-backports being non available. I don't think the faili

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