Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-03 Thread Philip Hands
IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian GNU|Linux) writes: > anyhow here's my 2¢: > according to you¹, upstream have simply botched their package > versioning, which i would consider *a bug*. > bugs cause pain. AIUI the botching was done by whoever put the PPA together. If that's the same as upstream, fair

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-03 Thread Philip Hands
Alec Leamas writes: > On 02/07/2024 20:46, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> Alec Leamas dijo [Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 01:59:26AM +0200]: >>> So, at least three possible paths: >>> >>> 1. Persuade users to uninstall PPA packages before installing official >>> packages and also generation 2 PPA packages with san

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-03 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 09:27:03AM +0200, Philip Hands wrote: > IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian GNU|Linux) writes: > > > anyhow here's my 2¢: > > according to you¹, upstream have simply botched their package > > versioning, which i would consider *a bug*. > > bugs cause pain. > > AIUI the botching w

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-03 Thread Alec Leamas
On 03/07/2024 10:10, Philip Hands wrote: Alec Leamas writes: It seems better to take an "If we build it, they will come" approach. New installs will likely get the Debian version without ever needing to discover the PPA, and the rumour will spread (assuming the Debian package works at least a

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-03 Thread Holger Levsen
hi Alec, please stop mailing this thread and just use an epoch. Before adding^wintroducing an epoch one should consult debian-devel@l.d.o, you have done this, arguments were exchanged and (IMNSHO) no better solution was found, so please do what has done to >1000 source packages in the archive alr

Bug#1074793: ITP: git-ubuntu -- maintain an Ubuntu source package in a git tree

2024-07-03 Thread Benjamin Drung
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Benjamin Drung X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, bdr...@debian.org * Package name: git-ubuntu Version : 1.1 Upstream Contact: ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com * URL : https://launchpad.net/git-ubuntu * License

Vendoring an unmaintained library?

2024-07-03 Thread Alexandre Rossi
Hi, Unvendoring libraries that are already in Debian seems like the pragmatic approach to lower code duplication and be closer to better packaging pratices. #1073005 asks for the vendoring back of an unvendored library, arguing that this particular library is unmaintained upstream, implying that

Bug#1075715: ITP: cppi/1.18 -- adjusts or checks indentation of C and C++ preprocessor directives

2024-07-03 Thread Simon Josefsson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon Josefsson X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: cppi Version : 1.18-1 Upstream Author : Jim Meyering, FSF, et al * URL : https://www.gnu.org/software/cppi/ * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang

Re: Vendoring an unmaintained library?

2024-07-03 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Enriching original email: This is about whether packages transmission-gtk should use embedded copy of libb64 or depend on the outdated Debian package libb64. Upstream for libb64 seems dead and transmission devs have improved their embedded/vendored copy of libb64. Direct link: https://bugs.debia

Re: Vendoring an unmaintained library?

2024-07-03 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2024-07-03 Alexandre Rossi wrote: [...] > #1073005 asks for the vendoring back of an unvendored library, arguing > that this particular library is unmaintained upstream, implying that the > vendored fork is better maintained. > My view on this is that if the vendored fork is better maintained,

Q: Create non-free package

2024-07-03 Thread Alec Leamas
Dear list, The opencpn program can use an usb dongle to administrate commercial chart licenses. Most opencpn users purchases licenses locked to a specific computer and don't use this dongle. Using a dongle users can use one license on several machines by just moving the dongle. The dongle

Re: Q: Create non-free package

2024-07-03 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 03, Alec Leamas wrote: > 1. Is it possible to package such a solib in the non-free section? Is it actually redistributable? > 2. opencpn would have a weak Suggests: or Recommends: on this package. Would > it mean it has to move to contrib? Suggests, no. Recommends, yes. See policy 2.2.1.

Re: Q: Create non-free package

2024-07-03 Thread Alec Leamas
Hi Marco, thanks for taking time On 04/07/2024 00:56, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Jul 03, Alec Leamas wrote: 1. Is it possible to package such a solib in the non-free section? Is it actually redistributable? Yes 2. opencpn would have a weak Suggests: or Recommends: on this package. Would it