Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/07/2024 02:31, Scott Kitterman wrote: On July 2, 2024 12:26:49 AM UTC, Soren Stoutner wrote: That adds some needed clarification. I agree that in that circumstance, adding an epoch is the best way forward. It allows you to maintain the current upstream program version number, while u

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Alec Leamas
Hi Jens, On 02/07/2024 06:38, Jens Reyer wrote: You may avoid the epoch if upstream is willing to provide a separate package for about 2 years. (I did something similar to get rid of an epoch in Ubuntu's wine packages a few years ago, replacing them with our Debian packages): package 9000.5

Re: Mandatory LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 during package building

2024-07-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 02 Jul 2024 at 03:47:29 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Fri, 2024-06-07 at 15:40:07 +0200, Alexandre Detiste wrote: > > Maybe a compromise would be to at least mandate some UTF-8 locale. > > dpkg-buildpackage: Require an UTF-8 (or ASCII) locale when > building packages Allowing ASCII seem

Bug#1074623: ITP: python-milc -- Opinionated Batteries-Included Python 3 CLI Framework

2024-07-02 Thread Agathe Porte
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Agathe Porte X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, gag...@debian.org * Package name: python-milc Version : 1.8.0 Upstream Contact: skullydazed * URL : https://github.com/clueboard/milc/ * License : Expat Program

Bug#1074624: ITP: qmk -- program to help users work with QMK Firmware

2024-07-02 Thread Agathe Porte
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Agathe Porte X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, gag...@debian.org * Package name: qmk Version : 1.1.5 Upstream Contact: skullydazed * URL : https://github.com/qmk/qmk_cli * License : Expat Programming Lang: P

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 05:17:09PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I would use an epoch. yes. [...] > Basically, you'd be burning a lot of social capital with upstream for no > really good reason and you probably still wouldn't be able to convince > them. I don't think it's worth it. yes. > I wo

Re: Mandatory LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 during package building

2024-07-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-07-02 at 09:52:05 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jul 2024 at 03:47:29 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-06-07 at 15:40:07 +0200, Alexandre Detiste wrote: > > > Maybe a compromise would be to at least mandate some UTF-8 locale. > > > > dpkg-buildpackage: Requi

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2024-07-02 at 03:32:53 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Tue, 2024-07-02 at 00:54:13 +0100, Wookey wrote: > > Quite. People are quite resistant to spoiling neat version numbers > > with epochs, and no-one likes them, but they don't do any actual harm > > (except sometimes break scripts

Bug#1074772: ITP: gecode-snapshot -- low-level modelling language for constraint problems

2024-07-02 Thread Kari Pahula
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kari Pahula X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: gecode-snapshot Version : 6.2.0+gitMMDD Upstream Contact: Guido Tack , Mikael Zayenz Lagerkvist * URL : https://www.gecode.org/ * License : MIT

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Alec Leamas dijo [Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 01:59:26AM +0200]: > So, at least three possible paths: > > 1. Persuade users to uninstall PPA packages before installing official > packages and also generation 2 PPA packages with sane versions like 5.10.x > > 2. Use versions like 9000.5.10, 9000.5.12. etc

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Alec Leamas
On 02/07/2024 20:46, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Alec Leamas dijo [Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 01:59:26AM +0200]: So, at least three possible paths: 1. Persuade users to uninstall PPA packages before installing official packages and also generation 2 PPA packages with sane versions like 5.10.x 2. Use versions

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 7/1/24 14:48, Alec Leamas wrote: [...] Hi Alec, opencpn is currently in a beta phase targeting a 5.10.1 release. The beta versions are like "5.9.2-beta2+dfsg-1ubuntu1~bpo2204.1". The upstream policy is to use 5.9.2-beta2, 5.9.3-beta3 so this ordering is, although a bit strange, still

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Alec Leamas
Hi Milan, On 02/07/2024 23:54, Milan Kupcevic wrote: On 7/1/24 14:48, Alec Leamas wrote: [...] Hi Alec, opencpn is currently in a beta phase targeting a 5.10.1 release. The beta versions are like "5.9.2-beta2+dfsg-1ubuntu1~bpo2204.1". The upstream policy is to use 5.9.2-beta2, 5.9.3-bet

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-02 Thread Debian GNU|Linux
On 7/3/24 00:28, Alec Leamas wrote: The upstream shall consider adopting 5 digit release version numbering [...] The upstream "shall" not do anything, they are open for discussions but certainly not for dictates. thou shalt not ask if thou wisheth for no answers. (please keep in mind tha