Linguistic Translation Solutions

2024-06-10 Thread Preety Ahuja
Respected Sir/Ma’am, I would like to introduce a translation. *The company has* specialized in providing t*ranslation and interpretation* (on a contract or permanent basis) for the last 21 years. The company is a pioneer in the fields of translation and interpretation across the globe. It has

Re: Enabling some -Werror=format* by default?

2024-06-10 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Fri, Jun 07, 2024 at 12:19:28AM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > We recently increased the time_t size on certain architectures and some > packages started failing to build because they were using a format > specifier too narrow for the wider time_t, e.g. #1067829. > But the only reason those

MBF: Move remaining files into /usr

2024-06-10 Thread Helmut Grohne
As many were so happy with the upload of the debootstrap set, we want to direct your attention to the long tail of the /usr-move transition that we want to see fixed in trixie: Moving aliased files in all remaining packages to /usr. More precisely, the transition should be fully completed in trixie

Re: Enabling some -Werror=format* by default?

2024-06-10 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 07:48:59AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > > We recently increased the time_t size on certain architectures and some > > packages started failing to build because they were using a format > > specifier too narrow for the wider time_t, e.g. #1067829. > > But the only reason tho

Re: Suggestions about i386 support

2024-06-10 Thread rhys
> On Jun 10, 2024, at 01:44, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 08:39:27PM -0500, r...@neoquasar.org wrote: It's not just a matter of "buy something better." That's easy. >> >>> Indeed, that is easier and cheaper. >> >> Of course, continuing to use a system I alread

Re: Suggestions about i386 support

2024-06-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-06-10 at 08:09, rhys wrote: > On Jun 10, 2024, at 01:44, Andrey Rakhmatullin > wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 08:39:27PM -0500, r...@neoquasar.org >> wrote: >>> Reuse is better than recycle for complex things like electronics. >>> >> You were suggested to resuse an old amd64 machi

Re: Suggestions about i386 support

2024-06-10 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi The (2024.06.10_12:22:14_+) > How to get access to the right parts of the waste stream to be able to > pull out some working 64-bit hardware is another question, and one where > I don't have an answer that wouldn't involve spending money (which would > presumably make the proposed alternativ

Re: Enabling some -Werror=format* by default?

2024-06-10 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2024-06-10 at 16:06:13 +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 07:48:59AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > > > We recently increased the time_t size on certain architectures and some > > > packages started failing to build because they were using a format > > > specifi

Re: Enabling some -Werror=format* by default?

2024-06-10 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 04:24:54PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > > > We recently increased the time_t size on certain architectures and some > > > > packages started failing to build because they were using a format > > > > specifier too narrow for the wider time_t, e.g. #1067829. > > > > But the

Re: Suggestions about i386 support

2024-06-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 at 12:43:27 +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > The point here is that the Debian project is not intending to support > new hardware on the i386 architecture. The architecture is being kept > around primarily to support running old i386 binaries. ... and the most appropriate answers

Re: Enabling some -Werror=format* by default?

2024-06-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 at 16:24:54 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > In general I think it's good (in principle) to enable -Werror flags > that detect actual bugs in code, the problem is always going to be > the amount of fallout and work that creates Yes. The difficult thing here is balancing "detect ac

Re: Enabling some -Werror=format* by default?

2024-06-10 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 04:24:54PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > Do you think it makes sense to add this a flag that enables -Werror=format > > to dpkg-buildflags(1), before, or after a test rebuild, before, or after > > the MBF if we do one? > > If by adding you mean adding a new feature flag t

Re: Suggestions about i386 support

2024-06-10 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 04:02:54PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 at 12:43:27 +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > > The point here is that the Debian project is not intending to support > > new hardware on the i386 architecture. The architecture is being kept > > around primarily to

Re: Mandatory LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 during package building

2024-06-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 at 02:14:36 +0900, Simon Richter wrote: > Reproducibility outside of sterile environments is however a problem for us > as a distribution, because it affects how well people are able to contribute > to packages they are not directly maintaining If our package-building entry poi

Re: Suggestions about i386 support

2024-06-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 at 20:17:27 +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 04:02:54PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > several important upstreams no longer consider i386 to be useful (and > > especially i386-without-SSE2), so so the burden of supporting 32-bit > > CPUs in modern s

Re: Enabling some -Werror=format* by default?

2024-06-10 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2024-06-10 at 20:09:21 +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 04:24:54PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > > Do you think it makes sense to add this a flag that enables -Werror=format > > > to dpkg-buildflags(1), before, or after a test rebuild, before, or after > >

Re: Enabling some -Werror=format* by default?

2024-06-10 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 04:06:13PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > Do you think it makes sense to add this a flag that enables -Werror=format > to dpkg-buildflags(1), before, or after a test rebuild, before, or after > the MBF if we do one? I think that a test rebuild and the MBF are reasonabl

Seeking consensus on file conflict between python3-proto-plus and nanopb

2024-06-10 Thread Yogeswaran Umasankar
Hello, There is a file conflict between python3-proto-plus and nanopb. The conflict arises due to both packages has a file at /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proto/__init__.py [0]. I am maintaining python3-proto-plus, and I am seeking guidance. The module name "proto" is an integral part of the p

Re: Enabling some -Werror=format* by default?

2024-06-10 Thread Fay Stegerman
* Helmut Grohne [2024-06-10 18:01]: > Ideally, we'd not just do a rebuild with the flags, but also do a > rebuild without and then compare the binary .debs. In the event that we > misguide configure, we expect the .debs to differ and otherwise to equal > due to the work of the reproducible builds

Re: Seeking consensus on file conflict between python3-proto-plus and nanopb

2024-06-10 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 06:40:02PM -0400, Yogeswaran Umasankar wrote: > There is a file conflict between python3-proto-plus and nanopb. The > conflict arises due to both packages has a file at > /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/proto/__init__.py [0]. I am maintaining > python3-proto-plus, and I am se