If there's a well-supported social or technical reason to remove the
i386 Debian installer, I think that it would still be disappointing,
but acceptable.
I don't know what those reasons are yet (I've imagined that they could
be maintainer burden -- but as mentioned, I don't think there's much
comp
Hi,
On 5/31/23 05:42, James Addison wrote:
* It allows other devices on the local network segment to inspect the
content that other nodes are sending and receiving.
That is very theoretical:
- when you use switches, the local network segment has no other nodes
- if there were other
Hi,
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:53:00AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> In effect, this bug report is an instance of a bug class. I am in the
> process of quantifying its effects, but I do not have useful numbers at
> this time. As an initial gauge, I think it is about 2000 binary packages
> that shi
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 12:51:06AM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> While it may be a no-brainer for a person with a $/€ 1000 a month residual
> income to just buy new hardware whenever they feel like it, that is not the
> case for everyone.
[...]
> It's absolutely true that modern machines are m
Le mer. 31 mai 2023 à 12:44, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> 20+ year old machines are typically more power hungry, more expensive,
> less performant, and less reliable than an up-to-date raspberry pi.
Embedded systems and medical one can be crazily expensive to maintain
and even more to replace but
On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 11:18, Helmut Grohne wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 11:53:00AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > In effect, this bug report is an instance of a bug class. I am in the
> > process of quantifying its effects, but I do not have useful numbers at
> > this time. As an i
On Tue, May 30 2023, Steve Langasek wrote:
> For businesses, the transition from 32-bit to 64-bit was several
> depreciation cycles ago.
>
> In my city, there is a non-profit that accepts donations of old computers,
> refurbishes them, installs Linux, and both sells them and provides them free
> t
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 01:00:42PM +0200, Alexandre Detiste wrote:
Hi,
> Embedded systems and medical one can be crazily expensive to maintain
> and even more to replace but some will run on i386 for a long time more
The question is: Is that a target for a future Debian installation and/or
a tar
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 07:29:38AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
Hi,
> I guess the question is: is this use case too niche for Debian to
> continue supporting? I would suggest that as long as we have 32-bit
> ARM, are the challenges for 32-bit x86 really worse?
If I assume for a moment that the De
Hi Simon - thanks for the response. Please find my reply inline below:
On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 11:07, Simon Richter wrote:
>
> On 5/31/23 05:42, James Addison wrote:
>
> >* It allows other devices on the local network segment to inspect the
> > content that other nodes are sending and re
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Alexandre Detiste dijo [Wed, May 31, 2023 at 01:00:42PM +0200]:
> Le mer. 31 mai 2023 à 12:44, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> > 20+ year old machines are typically more power hungry, more expensive,
> > less performant, and less reliable than an up-to-date raspberry pi.
>
> Embedded systems and medi
John Goerzen dijo [Wed, May 31, 2023 at 07:29:38AM -0500]:
> (...)
> I guess the question is: is this use case too niche for Debian to
> continue supporting? I would suggest that as long as we have 32-bit
> ARM, are the challenges for 32-bit x86 really worse?
Do note, however, the ARM64 started a
On 2023-05-31 07:29 -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > Hanging on to systems using power-hungry chips from 20 years ago instead of
> > intercepting a system such as this is not reducing the number of computers
> > that end up in the waste stream, it just keeps you stuck with a more
> > power-hungry sy
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 10:45:15PM +0200, Ricardo Ribalda Delgado wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I think I have the first version of virtme-ng.
>
> @Héctor Orón Martínez can you help reviewing and pushing
> https://salsa.debian.org/ribalda/virtme-ng ?
>
> Maybe you could also create salsa.debian.org/debian
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On Wed, 2023-05-31 at 19:48 +0100, Wookey wrote:
> On 2023-05-31 07:29 -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
>
> > > Hanging on to systems using power-hungry chips from 20 years ago instead
> > > of
> > > intercepting a system such as this is not reducing the number of computers
> > > that end up in the was
On Wed May 31, 2023 at 12:44 PM CEST, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 12:51:06AM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> > While it may be a no-brainer for a person with a $/€ 1000 a month residual
> > income to just buy new hardware whenever they feel like it, that is not
the
> > case
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 11:24:15PM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> On Wed May 31, 2023 at 12:44 PM CEST, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 12:51:06AM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> My point is: what about people who don't have the option to *buy*
> anything (new or used), for fi
Hi,
- when you use switches, the local network segment has no other nodes
- if there were other nodes, they would likely miss some packets in
the conversation, which means they cannot generate checksums
- there is no software that can perform this inspection
Yep, there are limitation
On Wed, 2023-05-31 at 00:51 +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> I would be VERY disappointed if Debian would abandon people who do NOT have
> the means to just buy new equipment whenever they feel like it.
There are Debian contributors who are in this position (although
perhaps not with i386 hardwa
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