Using i386 by mistake on 64-bit hardware [was Re: i386 in the future 32-bit archs: a proposal)]

2023-05-20 Thread Josh Triplett
James Addison wrote: > Do we know how often the i386 installer is downloaded compared to > amd64, and could/should we start with updated messaging where those > are provided before removing users' ability to install on their > systems? How easily could we add 64-bit system detection to the i386 in

Re: i386 in the future

2023-05-20 Thread Ansgar
On Sat, 2023-05-20 at 04:25 +0100, Wookey wrote: > On 2023-05-19 12:42 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > If they're still running > > i386 *hardware*, then they should be replacing that hardware with more > > modern, more capable, more *efficient* stuff. > > I'm still using an i386 early acer netbo

Re: Using i386 by mistake on 64-bit hardware [was Re: i386 in the future 32-bit archs: a proposal)]

2023-05-20 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 20.05.23 16:15, Josh Triplett wrote: That might help reduce the number of actual installations of i386 by people who don't realize they could be and should be using amd64. Crossgrades are probably broken with systemd, but it might be possible to hack something that diverts /sbin/init

Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal

2023-05-20 Thread Wookey
On 2023-05-17 20:14 -0500, Richard Laager wrote: > > They mention, "We likely have to complete Modern C porting first to remove > any instances of -Wimplicit-function-declaration otherwise the redirects in > glibc for e.g. time->time64 won't actually work." > Has that issue been considered here?

Re: #932957 Please migrate Release Notes to reStructuredText

2023-05-20 Thread RL
Holger Wansing writes: > However, I may have some objections against the migration at all: > as far as I know, sphinx/reStructuredText is still lacking some functionality, > which is heavily used in the release-notes. > That is the use of substitutions within URLs. > In docbook speach these were

Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal)

2023-05-20 Thread James Addison
On Sat, 20 May 2023 at 09:39, Cyril Brulebois wrote:> > James Addison (2023-05-20): > > Replying individually, but may bring this back on-list depending on > > what I learn: > > > > On Sat, 20 May 2023 at 06:00, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > > > > > If you're concerned about the impact of no longer

Re: What *is* the amd64 ABI

2023-05-20 Thread Bastien Roucariès
Le mardi 16 mai 2023, 04:45:51 UTC Michael Hudson-Doyle a écrit : > On Tue, 16 May 2023, 15:42 Russ Allbery, wrote: > > > Sam Hartman writes: > > > > > We've all been talking about the x86_64 ABI, and I'm realizing I'm never > > > read it. > > > Are we talking about > > > https://refspecs.linuxb

Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal

2023-05-20 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2023-05-20 Wookey wrote: > On 2023-05-17 20:14 -0500, Richard Laager wrote: >> They mention, "We likely have to complete Modern C porting first to remove >> any instances of -Wimplicit-function-declaration otherwise the redirects in >> glibc for e.g. time->time64 won't actually work." >> Has t

Re: Using i386 by mistake on 64-bit hardware [was Re: i386 in the future 32-bit archs: a proposal)]

2023-05-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 09:15:00AM +0200, Josh Triplett wrote: > How easily could we add 64-bit system detection to the i386 installer, > and a message saying something like: > > "You're installing the i386 architecture on a 64-bit system. While this > will work, this is the last release it'll be

Bug#1035883: general: TMOUT and autologout are set to 3600, but logout occurs much earlier

2023-05-20 Thread Peter Wienemann
Dear Jim, On 10.05.23 17:01, Jim Anderson wrote: I realize that auto logout is a general security feature, but in my case, I have a secrure environment where only my wife and I have access to my computer. I strong prefer to NOT have my computer auto logout for 10 hours, allowing me to leave my c

Debian Med video conference tomorrow Sunday 2023-05-20 18:00 UTC

2023-05-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the next video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to organise the tasks inside our team. Meetings usually take us only 15-20min depending what we are talking about and how many people are joining. The next meeting is tomorrow https:/

Re: #932957 Please migrate Release Notes to reStructuredText

2023-05-20 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, RL wrote (Sat, 20 May 2023 12:52:25 +0100): > Holger Wansing writes: > > > However, I may have some objections against the migration at all: > > as far as I know, sphinx/reStructuredText is still lacking some > > functionality, > > which is heavily used in the release-notes. > > That is t

Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal)

2023-05-20 Thread James Addison
On Fri, 19 May 2023 at 22:58, Ansgar wrote: > > On Fri, 2023-05-19 at 19:40 +0100, James Addison wrote: > > Do we know how often the i386 installer is downloaded compared to > > amd64, and could/should we start with updated messaging where those > > are provided before removing users' ability to i