Re: autopkgtest/sbuild environment variables: LC_ALL, HOME, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR etc

2022-04-29 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 02:32:49PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 14:02:46 +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 10:16:30AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > > According to the autopkgtest spec[1], > > > > > > Tests can expect that the $HOME environment

Re: autopkgtest/sbuild environment variables: LC_ALL, HOME, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR etc

2022-04-29 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 02:32:49PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > That's interesting; I don't find any code that sets HOME in > > autopkgtest. > > The purpose of autopkgtest is to run the tests in a realistic environment > that resembles a real Debian desktop or server, but it doesn't know much

Re: autopkgtest/sbuild environment variables: LC_ALL, HOME, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR etc

2022-04-29 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 10:43:40 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Does that mean that autopkgtests that directly or indirectly use the > dbus-run-session tool to setup a temporary D-Bus session are buggy? There's no single answer to that. For unit-test-style testing, it's often more convenient to start a

Re: autopkgtest/sbuild environment variables: LC_ALL, HOME, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR etc

2022-04-29 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 08:34:48 +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > So can I suggest that > sbuild-setup(7) explains this a bit more and discusses setting up a > meaningful HOME directory? I'm sure patches are accepted, but the problem with this is that what you want for sbuild does not match what you w

Re: autopkgtest/sbuild environment variables: LC_ALL, HOME, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR etc

2022-04-29 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Quoting Simon McVittie (2022-04-29 10:58:34) > On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 at 08:34:48 +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > So can I suggest that > > sbuild-setup(7) explains this a bit more and discusses setting up a > > meaningful HOME directory? > > I'm sure patches are accepted, but the problem with this i

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Steve McIntyre
Paul Wise wrote: > >During the discussions about NEW on debian-devel in recent times, I had >the idea that instead of the current mechanism of sending REJECT mails, >Debian could switch to using the BTS for most feedback on NEW packages. > >This means that most discussion about NEW packages would b

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-04-29 at 08:36, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Paul Wise wrote: > >> During the discussions about NEW on debian-devel in recent times, I >> had the idea that instead of the current mechanism of sending >> REJECT mails, Debian could switch to using the BTS for most >> feedback on NEW packages. >>

Help in setting up lxc for autopkgtest - autopkgtest-build-lxc fails

2022-04-29 Thread Julian Gilbey
Following Simon's suggestion, I decided to try setting up lxc to use autopkgtest-lxc, mimicking the ci.debian.org setup. I haven't managed to do so yet, and have run into lots of problems. I'd really appreciate some advice on what to try, and them we can record advice somewhere on the Debian wiki

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 8:54:05 PM EDT Paul Wise wrote: > Hi all, > > During the discussions about NEW on debian-devel in recent times, I had > the idea that instead of the current mechanism of sending REJECT mails, > Debian could switch to using the BTS for most feedback on NEW packages. >

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Scott, thanks a lot for becoming involved into this discussion. Am Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 11:26:33AM -0400 schrieb Scott Kitterman: > 2. Not rejecting packages with serious defects: > > I'm not sure I understand what it proposed: > > > The ftpmasters could simply file severity serious bug rep

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, April 29, 2022 12:08:21 PM EDT Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Scott, > > thanks a lot for becoming involved into this discussion. > > Am Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 11:26:33AM -0400 schrieb Scott Kitterman: > > 2. Not rejecting packages with serious defects: > > > > I'm not sure I understand wha

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2022-04-29 at 13:36 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Just to clarify: is this suggesting that packages from NEW would end > up in the archive even with serious bugs? If not, what's the point of > the "eventual removal" above? I'm not following you here... No, the bugs I propose to be filed

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2022-04-29 at 11:26 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > 1.  Making reject/prod emails more public: > > There are actually two different types of messages we can send while > reviewing > packages in DAK: > > a.  Reject: As indicated by the name, this is an email that accompanies the > pack

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 29, 2022 11:04:57 PM UTC, Paul Wise wrote: >On Fri, 2022-04-29 at 13:36 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> Just to clarify: is this suggesting that packages from NEW would end >> up in the archive even with serious bugs? If not, what's the point of >> the "eventual removal" above? I'm n

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2022-04-29 at 18:08 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > To give some actual examples that IMHO are candidates for accept + bug > report: Packages with incomplete or incorrect debian/copyright information currently would recieve a REJECT rather than acceptance. The proposal would not change that

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2022-04-29 at 23:32 +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I don't understand why this is any better than just rejecting the > package?  Once it's been determined that the upload won't be > accepted, I don't see a benefit to having it remain in New. The initial upload might not get an ACCEPT, bu

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 29, 2022 11:44:54 PM UTC, Paul Wise wrote: >On Fri, 2022-04-29 at 23:32 +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> I don't understand why this is any better than just rejecting the >> package?  Once it's been determined that the upload won't be >> accepted, I don't see a benefit to having it r

Re: feedback for NEW packages: switch to using the BTS?

2022-04-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2022-04-30 at 00:13 +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I'm still not understanding how any of that needs to have a package > we've decided not to accept sitting in New? My thinking is that debbugs would require a package (imported from new.822) to exist for maintainer addresses. If you file

Bug#1010382: ITP: mkdocstrings-python-legacy -- Legacy Python handler for mkdocstrings

2022-04-29 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Carsten Schoenert X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: mkdocstrings-python-legacy Version : 0.2.2 Upstream Author : Timothée Mazzucotelli * URL : https://github.com/mkdocstrings/python-legacy * License