On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 07:11 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> See https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2020/01/msg00205.html
AFAICT OnSuccess/OnFailure services don't recieve the output of the
succeeding/failing service. So the mail sending service needs to dig
around in the systemd journal. Or make
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 20:52:47 -0600, Sam Hartman
wrote:
>Let me try asking something more reasonable.
>If you end up tightening down world readableness, let me know so I can
>reject the umask patch, because I suspect if your decision to tighten
>down being world readable sticks, the 15 year old use
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 18:02:55 +0100, Christian Kastner
wrote:
>On 2022-03-13 11:06, Marc Haber wrote:
>> The anti-systemd faction in Debian is cordially invited to step in,
>> bring cron and cronie up to shape, before asking the rest of the
>> Distribution to stick with essential system software th
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 09:29:56 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
>The cron feature of sending the output via email by default isn't
>possible to get easily with systemd timers or systemd-cron, unless you
>modify every single timer to manually send email or use systemd-cron
>and have every single timer fail.
On Mar 14, Paul Wise wrote:
> AFAICT OnSuccess/OnFailure services don't recieve the output of the
> succeeding/failing service. So the mail sending service needs to dig
> around in the systemd journal. Or make the service output go to a file,
> FIFO or socket and then send that to a mail.
Yes, th
On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 09:47:01PM +0100, Philip Rinn wrote:
> On 13.03.22 at 18:47, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> > Now, wouldn't be nice to have the latest version uploaded to main and
> > the renamed alternative to NEW?
>
> Absolutely, that's what I just did - at least the first part. Uploading it
On Mon, 14 Mar 2022 at 11:47:33 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Mar 14, Paul Wise wrote:
> > AFAICT OnSuccess/OnFailure services don't recieve the output of the
> > succeeding/failing service. So the mail sending service needs to dig
> > around in the systemd journal.
>
> Yes, this is true. These
On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 11:47 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Mar 14, Paul Wise wrote:
>
> > AFAICT OnSuccess/OnFailure services don't recieve the output of the
> > succeeding/failing service. So the mail sending service needs to dig
> > around in the systemd journal. Or make the service output go
On 2022-03-10 12:09 -0700, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Steve" == Steve McIntyre writes:
>
> Steve> Why on earth *would* you mess around using Debian revisions
> Steve> on a native-format package, though?
>
> You're trying to produce packages from CI builds or other automation
> where you
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 01:10:19PM +, Wookey wrote:
> > You're trying to produce packages from CI builds or other automation
> > where you sometimes have native Debian revisions.
> >
> > * you are producing a package where you have distinct upstream and
> > debian branches, and you cannot co
On 2022-03-14 08:48, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 18:02:55 +0100, Christian Kastner
>> I don't think that's a very constructive line of argument. As a former
>> maintainer, it was evident that user crontabs (crontab -e) are still
>> very popular, as are some other perhaps niche features
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 09:29:56AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-03-13 at 18:02 +0100, Christian Kastner wrote:
> > I don't think that's a very constructive line of argument. As a former
> > maintainer, it was evident that user crontabs (crontab -e) are still
> > very popular, as are some
Hi Peter,
Am Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 07:40:26PM +0200 schrieb Peter Pentchev:
> > there was a (private) request to upgrade libzstd to latest 1.5.2.
> >
> > I'd like to repeat that I'm really convinced that libzstd should *not*
> > be maintained in the Debian Med team but rather some core team in
> >
On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 15:28 +, Colin Watson wrote:
> I'm not particularly anti-systemd - there are lots of things about it
> that I like and use. However, I'm not sure the ergonomics of it
> weighed up against user crontabs are particularly favourable.
I think we are only talking about possib
Am 14.03.22 um 16:28 schrieb Colin Watson:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 09:29:56AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
On Sun, 2022-03-13 at 18:02 +0100, Christian Kastner wrote:
I don't think that's a very constructive line of argument. As a former
maintainer, it was evident that user crontabs (crontab -e) are
Hi,
> I think we can all agree upon bumping the lintian severity to
> warning.
I am not sure there is unanimous support. Instead, I would like to
propose the following compromise (as I have before).
> 1.0 native is sometimes better than 3.0 (native) because dpkg-source
> refuses to build a 3.0 n
Michael Biebl wrote:
> I'd agree here. user crontabs are such a niche case where systemd's
> own facilities don't provide a direct replacement.
>
> That said, my main point was about packages shipping cron files.
>
> As a distro we'd benefit if those shipped native systemd timers
> (instead or in a
Am 14.03.22 um 20:43 schrieb Josh Triplett:
Michael Biebl wrote:
I'd agree here. user crontabs are such a niche case where systemd's
own facilities don't provide a direct replacement.
That said, my main point was about packages shipping cron files.
As a distro we'd benefit if those shipped na
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> We are currently considering the following dates as our freeze
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Hi Paul,
These dates are in the past, was it intended for the dates to be in
Janruay, February, and March of 2023 instead of 2022?
Jesse
On 2022-03-14 5:36 p.m., Paul Gevers wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We are currently considering the following dates as our freeze
> dates. If you are aware of major
On Mon, Mar 14 2022, Paul Gevers wrote:
> We are currently considering the following dates as our freeze
> dates. If you are aware of major clashes of these dates with anything
> we depend on please let us know. We also like to stress again that we
> really would like to have a short Hard and Full
On 2022-03-13 01:07, Simon McVittie wrote:
> - reserving an environment variable like SKIP_CRON_JOB_UNDER_SYSTEMD=1
> to act as a request to skip parsing this cron job on systemd systems
> (it would also be set like any other environment variable when the cron
> job is executed on a non-syste
On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 11:47 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Yes, this is true. These are the unit and script that I use, and I think
> that Debian would benefit from having something like this available in
> some common package.
...
> $(systemctl status "$FAILED_UNIT" --full --lines=100)
Unfortuna
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 6:23 PM Jameson Graef Rollins
wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 14 2022, Paul Gevers wrote:
> > We are currently considering the following dates as our freeze
> > dates. If you are aware of major clashes of these dates with anything
> > we depend on please let us know. We also l
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 09:43:15PM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote:
> > We are currently considering the following dates as our freeze
> > dates. If you are aware of major clashes of these dates with anything
> > we depend on please let us know. We also like to stress again that we
> > really would like to
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