Hi,
Adding smcv to the thread.
Le mar. 7 sept. 2021 à 23:25, Bastien ROUCARIES
a écrit :
>
> Le mar. 7 sept. 2021 à 21:16, Zebediah Figura
> a écrit :
> >
> > On 9/7/21 12:05 PM, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> > > I disagree.
> > >
> > > Le mar. 7 sept. 2021 à 17:48, Zebediah Figura a
> > > écrit
On Wed, 08 Sep 2021 at 07:31:59 +, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> Simon, do you think you could implement a version of libcapasule for PE
> object ?
Given that libcapsule is very glibc- and ELF-specific, doesn't work
properly without new glibc feature work that isn't in Debian yet (I've
lost trac
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Hi,
On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 10:22:15AM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> Some users want proxy but they can configure their settings.
> So just change "default setting for {deb,security}.debian.org"
> is not so harmful, IMO.
I fear you are putting this upside down. In reality, some sites (not
use
On Wed, 2021-09-08 at 13:09 +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 10:22:15AM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> > Some users want proxy but they can configure their settings.
> > So just change "default setting for {deb,security}.debian.org"
> > is not so harmful, IMO.
>
> I fear yo
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 01:37:37PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> Maybe we should just find out who is responsible for this decision and
> reassign the bug to them. The installer team maintaining d-i and
> debootstrap or the mirror team seem reasonable choices?
We've already tried that approach on the /u
On Wed, 2021-09-08 at 13:53 +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 01:37:37PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> > Maybe we should just find out who is responsible for this decision
> > and
> > reassign the bug to them. The installer team maintaining d-i and
> > debootstrap or the mirror team s
On Wed, 8 Sep 2021, Helmut Grohne wrote:
I do see the advantages of using https. I do not see how to not make it
happen without breaking relevant use cases. Same with the /usr-merge. I
do see the advantages. I've stopped counting the things that broke. Most
recent one is the uucp FTBFS. Change h
On Wed, 2021-09-08 at 13:13 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:
> This is a bit tongue in cheek, but how about these sites where the
> .debs are downloaded from publish their *private* key? They openly
> accept that anyone can MITM them.
If you have access to the private key, you can request the CA to revok
On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 04:41:49PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Sep 2021, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> > It must be noted that no actual network operation happen, so this
> > doesn't fall into the "no network activity" bucket.
> >
> > This is the bug that was filed against dnspython:
> > h
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 02:01:03PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> So what do you suggest then? Tech-ctte as with merged-/usr? Or a GR? Or
> something else?
I propose that the proponents pay the cost. In this case, it is a bit
unclear what that means precisely (which likely is the reason they
haven't done
On Wed, 2021-09-08 at 15:41 +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 02:01:03PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> > So what do you suggest then? Tech-ctte as with merged-/usr? Or a
> > GR? Or
> > something else?
>
> I propose that the proponents pay the cost. In this case, it is a bit
> unclear
On 9/6/21 4:39 PM, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> during the year, a src:dnspython change made it so that any software
> importing that library now requires a valid /etc/resolv.conf with at
> least one nameserver configured.
>
> This also made it so that something between 50-100 packages now fai
On ബു, സെപ്റ്റം 8 2021 at 04:18:46 വൈകു
+0200 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Therefore, I am in the opinion that we should let the package run its
test as much as possible, especially considering that it's not doing
actual network outbound connections.
Can't we run these tests as autopkgtest
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 07:57:20PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> On ബു, സെപ്റ്റം 8 2021 at 04:18:46 വൈകു +0200 +0200, Thomas Goirand
> wrote:
> > Therefore, I am in the opinion that we should let the package run its
> > test as much as possible, especially considering that it's not doing
> > act
On 9/8/21 3:13 AM, Simon McVittie wrote:
On Wed, 08 Sep 2021 at 07:31:59 +, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
Simon, do you think you could implement a version of libcapasule for PE object ?
Given that libcapsule is very glibc- and ELF-specific, doesn't work
properly without new glibc feature work
On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 04:39:39PM +0200, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> Do anybody on the list have any opinion on where is the bug, on
> dnspython, or on the build environment?
I concur that the absence of /etc/resolv.conf is a sensible
configuration. Indeed, it is my method-of-choice for implementing
Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> during the year, a src:dnspython change made it so that any software
> importing that library now requires a valid /etc/resolv.conf with at
> least one nameserver configured.
>
> This also made it so that something between 50-100 packages now fail to
> build if the build sy
I have two Debian servers: one is buster and one is bullseye. They both
run the openafs-client service. When I run "gbp buildpackage mypackage"
it completes successfully on both servers as long as the directory where
I run "gbp" is _not_ in AFS. If I run "gbp" in an AFS directory it
completes s
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 05:44:34PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 04:39:39PM +0200, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> > Do anybody on the list have any opinion on where is the bug, on
> > dnspython, or on the build environment?
>
> I concur that the absence of /etc/resolv.conf is a se
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On 9/8/21 5:44 PM, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> As such, I err on dnspython being in need of a fix.
Dnspython isn't broken in any ways, it doesn't do any network access.
The only thing you're going to achieve is:
- more work for the maintainers (who will need to disable or patch the
tests).
- probably l
On ബു, സെപ്റ്റം 8 2021 at 06:10:56 വൈകു
+0300 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 07:57:20PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
On ബു, സെപ്റ്റം 8 2021 at 04:18:46 വൈകു
+0200 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Therefore, I am in the opinion that we should let the package run
its
> t
Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2021-09-04 20:02:57)
> Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (2021-09-04 19:52:50)
> > Le ven. 3 sept. 2021 à 01:03, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
> > >
> > > Quoting Bastien Roucariès (2021-09-02 23:45:30)
> > > > Perl is an option I implemented the privacy breach test in perl.
> > >
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 01:09:13PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
Enabling https by default quite simply breaks the simple recipe of
installing auto-apt-proxy. Would you agree with auto-apt-proxy's
postinst automatically editing your sources.list to drop the s out of
https? The answer repeatedly giv
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 03:56:14PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
On Wed, 2021-09-08 at 15:41 +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 02:01:03PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> So what do you suggest then? Tech-ctte as with merged-/usr? Or a
> GR? Or
> something else?
I propose that the proponents pay
All,
I am against automatically setting HTTPS. Their should be an option in
the installer to set or unset HTTPS while configuring the mirror! I
like a lot of folks am on a metered internet connection with a UTM
proxy firewall. I have multiple computers that need patched and only
having to download
On 9/8/21 3:13 AM, Simon McVittie wrote:
> As far as I understand it, the PE loader used for Wine is part of Wine,
> so it has total control over the libraries that it loads and how it loads
> them. This means that if Wine developers (the experts on this codebase)
> have decided a libcapsule-like a
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 8:23 PM Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Later on, the class calls the method read_resolv_conf that has:
It also fails if the file exists but has no nameservers:
if len(self.nameservers) == 0:
raise NoResolverConfiguration
> So, any test case that does that fai
On 9/8/21 8:12 PM, Paul Wise wrote:
On 9/8/21 3:13 AM, Simon McVittie wrote:
As far as I understand it, the PE loader used for Wine is part of Wine,
so it has total control over the libraries that it loads and how it loads
them. This means that if Wine developers (the experts on this codebase)
h
On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 9:51 PM Pirate Praveen wrote:
> I don't think the default autopkgtest environment should be as
> restrictive as the build environment. So adding this to default
> autopkgtest enviroment is not the same as adding it to default build
> environment.
It is already the case that
On Wed, 2021-09-08 at 23:47 -0500, Zebediah Figura wrote:
> Unfortunately, while thinking about the answer to this question, I
> realized another snag, which I think really does make using
> identically-named dynamic libraries impossible: if system library A
> loads system library B dynamically
On 9/9/21 12:15 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
On Wed, 2021-09-08 at 23:47 -0500, Zebediah Figura wrote:
Unfortunately, while thinking about the answer to this question, I
realized another snag, which I think really does make using
identically-named dynamic libraries impossible: if system library A
loads
On Thu, 2021-09-09 at 00:39 -0500, Zebediah Figura wrote:
> Right, but we don't have any guarantee that library A will load library
> B in its constructor routines. In fact, if it's loading library B
> dynamically, it's probably not doing that.
Can the loader tell which library asked it to load
On 9/9/21 12:45 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
On Thu, 2021-09-09 at 00:39 -0500, Zebediah Figura wrote:
Right, but we don't have any guarantee that library A will load library
B in its constructor routines. In fact, if it's loading library B
dynamically, it's probably not doing that.
Can the loader te
2021, സെപ്റ്റംബർ 9 4:42:18 AM IST, Michael Stone ൽ എഴുതി
>On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 01:09:13PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
>>Enabling https by default quite simply breaks the simple recipe of
>>installing auto-apt-proxy. Would you agree with auto-apt-proxy's
>>postinst automatically editing your s
* Michael Stone [2021-09-08 19:12]:
Why not simply automate setting it at install time using preseed? I'm
honestly not sure who the target audience for auto-apt-proxy
is--apparently someone who has an infrastructure including a proxy,
possibly the ability to set dns records, etc., but can't ch
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