On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 10:58:33 +, "Andrew M.A. Cater"
wrote:
>Video drivers: we have some basic video modes that work for text mode on
>nearly all cards / embedded chipsets. Other than that, almost everything
>requires a non-free driver. AMD/Intel/Nvidia are all, in their own ways,
>equally b
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 05:01:30 +, Philip Wyett wrote:
> Installing Debian testing and now also using bullseye-DI-alpha3, the
> default desktop install/gnome is still installing vino and not
> installing gnome-remote-desktop by default.
The version of meta-gnome3 in GNOME team git Suggests gno
On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 09:27:28 -0800, Russ Allbery
wrote:
>"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes:
>> It already does: the second or third question gives you the option to
>> install non-free firmware, if needed, from a USB stick. That method does
>> work but very few people use it.
>
>This is the method that
On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 10:58:33 +, "Andrew M.A. Cater"
wrote:
>It already does: the second or third question gives you the option to install
> non-free firmware, if needed, from a USB stick. That method does work but
>very few people use it.
I have seen a site with thousands of Debian installat
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 01:53:24 +, Paul Wise wrote:
>On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:52 PM Russell Stuart wrote:
>
>> Testing doesn't produce netinst with non-free firmware
>
>There are both daily and weekly testing netinsts with firmware:
>
>https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-i
Quoting Marc Haber (2021-01-17 11:33:28)
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 09:27:28 -0800, Russ Allbery
> wrote:
> >"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes:
> >> It already does: the second or third question gives you the option
> >> to install non-free firmware, if needed, from a USB stick. That
> >> method does work
On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 20:20:56 +0100, Andreas Tille
wrote:
> IMHO the fact that people claim that
>"Ubuntu is easy to use but Debian is not" is to quite some amount based
>on this kind of experience of users who do not know that kind of basics
>and are not able to fix a rudimentary system afterwards
On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 20:20:56 +0100, Andreas Tille
wrote:
>But my personal experience is that random users
>do not even try Debian since they know from "competent friends" that
>Debian is way harder to install than Ubuntu. I admit I'm a bit bored by
>this discussion and I do not really want to ope
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Marc Haber writes:
> My workaround is to plug in a network cable for installation. But
> alas, I have up to now been able to avoid hardware without built-in
> Ethernet. I guess that many USB Ethernet interfaces will work out of
> the box without non-free, right?
Yes, even integrated LTE/5G modem
On 17.01.21 11:51, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 20:20:56 +0100, Andreas Tille
> wrote:
>> IMHO the fact that people claim that
>> "Ubuntu is easy to use but Debian is not" is to quite some amount based
>> on this kind of experience of users who do not know that kind of basics
>> and are
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On Sun, 2021-01-17 at 10:31 +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 05:01:30 +, Philip Wyett wrote:
> > Installing Debian testing and now also using bullseye-DI-alpha3,
> > the
> > default desktop install/gnome is still installing vino and not
> > installing gnome-remote-desktop b
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 12:08:35 +0100, Philipp Kern
wrote:
>It's not very relevant today anymore, but my first Linux distributions
>(including Debian) were actually store-bought. If we had needed to rely
>on firmware back then (which we did not) and would it not have been
>included in the box, the us
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 11:49:00 +, Philip Wyett wrote:
> I am no Pipewire expert like you
Please don't mistake me for a Pipewire expert! I'm only doing drive-by
uploads because we need it for GNOME. I do not have the bandwidth to be
responsible for Pipewire and you'll notice I have deliberatel
On Sun, 2021-01-17 at 12:53 +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 11:49:00 +, Philip Wyett wrote:
> > I am no Pipewire expert like you
>
> Please don't mistake me for a Pipewire expert! I'm only doing drive-
> by
> uploads because we need it for GNOME. I do not have the bandwid
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:33:28AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> My workaround is to plug in a network cable for installation. But
> alas, I have up to now been able to avoid hardware without built-in
> Ethernet. I guess that many USB Ethernet interfaces will work out of
> the box without non-free, ri
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 18:16:04 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin
wrote:
>On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:33:28AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> My workaround is to plug in a network cable for installation. But
>> alas, I have up to now been able to avoid hardware without built-in
>> Ethernet. I guess that many USB
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:36:58AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 10:58:33 +, "Andrew M.A. Cater"
> wrote:
> >It already does: the second or third question gives you the option to install
> > non-free firmware, if needed, from a USB stick. That method does work but
> >very few
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Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 01:53:24 +, Paul Wise wrote:
> >On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:52 PM Russell Stuart wrote:
> >
> >> Testing doesn't produce netinst with non-free firmware
> >
> >There are both daily and weekly testing netinsts with f
On Jan 15, Emanuele Rocca wrote:
> So the current situation is that we make an active effort to produce two
> different types of installation media: one that works for all users, and
> one broken for most laptops. Some sort of FOSS version of an
> anti-feature. Then we publish the broken version
On Sunday, January 17, 2021 6:06:15 AM EST Bjørn Mork wrote:
> All these USB devices work only because they come with firmware on a largish
> flash.
That's not the complete case. Of the modern libre USB WiFi dongles I know of,
carl9170 (firmware for AR9170 chips) is included in firmware-linux-free
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On 17.01.21 14:19, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 18:16:04 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin
> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:33:28AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>>> My workaround is to plug in a network cable for installation. But
>>> alas, I have up to now been able to avoid hardware without
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 18:02:38 +0100, Philipp Kern
wrote:
>On 17.01.21 14:19, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 18:16:04 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin
>> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:33:28AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
My workaround is to plug in a network cable for installation. But
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 13:22:25 +, "Andrew M.A. Cater"
wrote:
>On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:36:58AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 10:58:33 +, "Andrew M.A. Cater"
>> wrote:
>> >It already does: the second or third question gives you the option to
>> >install
>> > non-free fir
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 06:52:11PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> I was not aware of that feature. It is good to have that, but I would
> be embarrassed to seriously suggest this way because we can't manage
> to get WLAN working in the installer for political reasons.
Indeed, hence the more serious sug
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On Du, 17 ian 21, 17:42:48, Marek Ľach wrote:
> Package: gnome-notes
> Description: a note editor designed to remain simple to use
> Severity: wishlist
> - formerly was known as ''Bijiben''.Very useful for jotting down
> thoughts quickly, wi
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 23:18:57 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 17 ian 21, 17:42:48, Marek Ľach wrote:
> > Package: gnome-notes
...
> > - formerly was known as ''Bijiben''.
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bijiben already exists. Is that the package
you wanted?
smcv
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021, Marc Haber wrote:
Absolutely. The Installation Experience is one of the first contacts
with the distribution for most people¹, and since we all know that the
Yep. I think using the live environment for installation could be more
user-friendly as the user is already famili
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