Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 03:15:14PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 09:35:01AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > The point is to make things easier for our users. Right now, we're doing > > that for you but not for the users who don't care whether firmware is > > non-free.

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-16 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-01-16 at 05:58, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 03:15:14PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 09:35:01AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> >>> The point is to make things easier for our users. Right now, >>> we're doing that for you but not for the u

Videoconference tomorrow, Sunday 2021-01-17 18:00 UTC (Was: For those who want to keep on contributing (Was: Debian @ COVID-19 Biohackathon (April 5-11, 2020))

2021-01-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is the call for the nect video conference of the Debian Med team that are an established means to continue the COVID-19 hackathon in April[1] and we do it twice per month on every 2th and 17th of a month. So the next meeting is tomorrow 18:00 UTC For those who would like to join

uscan/watch regexp and multiple versions

2021-01-16 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Hi, I'm adding watch files for projects, and have a problem with multiple version number epochs in a github release. Some of the stack(s) i'm watching have versions, eg. "3.4.1" but also bundled version numbers "2020.10.1" that I wish to ignore; Is there any examples how to set watch files

Re: uscan/watch regexp and multiple versions

2021-01-16 Thread David Prévot
Hi Alastair, Le 16/01/2021 à 08:02, Alastair McKinstry a écrit : Some of the stack(s) i'm watching have versions, eg. "3.4.1" but also bundled version numbers "2020.10.1" that I wish to ignore; Why not use a regex that matches the first one but not the last one, maybe something like .*/v?(\d

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-16 Thread Russ Allbery
"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: > It already does: the second or third question gives you the option to > install non-free firmware, if needed, from a USB stick. That method does > work but very few people use it. This is the method that I personally always use, but I install systems infrequently an

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-16 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 09:27:28AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > The installer with non-free firmware built in would, I think, be better. > I know it exists, but last time I wasn't able to use it because I needed a > testing installer, not a stable installer, for some hardware reason, and I > couldn

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 10:50:19PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 09:27:28AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > The installer with non-free firmware built in would, I think, be better. > > I know it exists, but last time I wasn't able to use it because I needed a > > testing

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-16 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 06:18:07PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > That's the trail of breadcrumbs: > * I'm not sure _even if_ you put the non-free installer up on the front page, > that it would solve wifi problems for all values of wifi firmware It won't solve wifi problems for all values of

Re: Making Debian available, non-free promotor

2021-01-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On 15.01.21 13:42, Ansgar wrote: > On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 19:30 +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: >> Ah, yes I also wonder how much the world will improve >> if non-free would be split in non-free and non-free-firmware. >> Currently is non free firmware a hugh promoter of non-free in >> /etc/apt/sources.

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 10:58:33AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > It already does: the second or third question gives you the option to install > non-free firmware, if needed, from a USB stick. That method does work but > very few people use it. >From my own experience I tried to provide thos

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-16 Thread Russell Stuart
On 17/1/21 3:27 am, Russ Allbery wrote: "Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: Wifi is the tough one: The companies that dominate laptop chipsets - Broadcom/Realtek/Qualcomm don't make it easy to find out which particular chipset it is. For USB Wifi connectors it's even harder - lots of Realtek chipsets

Re: Making Debian available

2021-01-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:52 PM Russell Stuart wrote: > Testing doesn't produce netinst with non-free firmware There are both daily and weekly testing netinsts with firmware: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/daily-builds/sid_d-i/current/amd64/iso-cd/

testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop

2021-01-16 Thread Philip Wyett
Hi, Installing Debian testing and now also using bullseye-DI-alpha3, the default desktop install/gnome is still installing vino and not installing gnome-remote-desktop by default. As we know, vino does not work with wayland and is not being actively developed and focus has shifted to the wayland