Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:54 PM Mo Zhou wrote: >lumin: An image of a QR code wouldn't be the preferred form of > modification. They are usually generated from something. If the file it > was > generated from isn't present and the tool to generate it isn't in Debian, > then > it can't

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Shengjing Zhu, le lun. 30 mars 2020 15:53:18 +0800, a ecrit: > IMO, the QR picture is preferred form of modification as well as the > origin text. Is there a program which takes a QR code, allows to modify the URL and the picture in the middle, and write the new QR code with the picture? > And, I

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 03:53:18PM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > But, these pictures are in the documents, not in the program We apply the same standards to both. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 30 Mar 2020, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > How should package maintainers deal with QR codes ethically? > > Asking package maintainers to rebuild functionally-equivalent QR-codes during > the build-process seems entirely reasonable to me. To me it looks like wasting my time. There

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:53 AM Shengjing Zhu wrote: > 1. There's no info loss if you convert from one to another. You definitely lose the (presumably non-free) television/game characters when converting from the original QR codes to plain text. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Raphael Hertzog, le lun. 30 mars 2020 10:14:13 +0200, a ecrit: > And on the opposite, if upstream changes the link, the you break it > without noticing Agreed, indeed. > (unless you put even more code to first extract the link from the > picture and then re-encode it). Actually that would argue

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Yao Wei (魏銘廷)
This case, in my interpretation, the text from the QR code is not upstream author's preferred form of modification. The QR code probably is author's preferred form of modification by changing the payment QR code as a whole. Ethics wise, we could ask author if they can accept other payment metho

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Paul Wise (2020-03-30 10:20:08) > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:53 AM Shengjing Zhu wrote: > > 1. There's no info loss if you convert from one to another. > You definitely lose the (presumably non-free) television/game characters when > converting from the original QR codes to plain text.

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:20 PM Paul Wise wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:53 AM Shengjing Zhu wrote: > > > 1. There's no info loss if you convert from one to another. > > You definitely lose the (presumably non-free) television/game > characters when converting from the original QR codes to p

Python3 modules not built for all supported Python versions

2020-03-30 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Hi, We've just finished the transition to python3.8 as the default python3 interpreter, which was a bit difficult due to some autopkgtest regressions in a few rdeps, and to the fact that many modules only build their extensions for the default python version, which means they have a strict depende

Re: RFC: Standardizing source package artifacts build paths

2020-03-30 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 30.03.20 00:52, Guillem Jover wrote: > And, of course there are always going to be remaining sticking points > not covered by features I or others have in mind, but IMO their presence > will still mean there's something to improve somewhere. This is the same debate we had in a lot of othe

Re: Python3 modules not built for all supported Python versions

2020-03-30 Thread Matthias Klose
On 3/30/20 1:24 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Hi, > > We've just finished the transition to python3.8 as the default python3 > interpreter, which was a bit difficult due to some autopkgtest regressions in > a > few rdeps, and to the fact that many modules only build their extensions for >

Re: RFC: Standardizing source package artifacts build paths

2020-03-30 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 13:54:27 +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > On 30.03.20 00:52, Guillem Jover wrote: > > And, of course there are always going to be remaining sticking points > > not covered by features I or others have in mind, but IMO their presence > > will still mean there's something to improv

Re: Python3 modules not built for all supported Python versions

2020-03-30 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Emilio Pozuelo Monfort (2020-03-30 13:24:01) > We've just finished the transition to python3.8 as the default python3 > interpreter, which was a bit difficult due to some autopkgtest regressions in > a few rdeps, and to the fact that many modules only build their extensions > for the d

Bug#955357: ITP: astra-toolbox -- Octave and Python toolbox of high-performance GPU primitives for 2D and 3D tomography

2020-03-30 Thread Sebastien Delafond
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastien Delafond * Package name: astra-toolbox Version : 1.8.3 Upstream Author : 2010-2016, iMinds-Vision Lab, University of Antwerp * URL : https://github.com/astra-toolbox/astra-toolbox * License : GPL-3 Programming

Re: Python3 modules not built for all supported Python versions

2020-03-30 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 15:30:01 +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote: > does this mean that build-depending on python3-dev is wrong in general and > should instead be replaced by build-depending on python3-all-dev? It is only wrong for packages that build Python 3 extensions (binary modules) that are int

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi fellow devs, I acknowlege that I sometimes do things in inappropriate ways unintentionally, and I accept the consequences of my fault. And this time I did something unprofessional, leaking messages from -private without asking for permission first. I was wrong. Sorry for that. Mo. On Mon, M

Bug#955361: ITP: python-pyscss2 -- fork of pyscss

2020-03-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-pyscss2 Version : 1.3.7 Upstream Author : Ivan Kolodyazhny * URL : https://github.com/e0ne/pyScss * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Description : SCSS compiler (fork

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi, Another public acknowledgement I should make is that I'm no longer an FTP Trainee ... So my name in the member list [1] is no longer valid. In the past indeed I have discussed about my shallow experience of working as a Trainee, and discussed about how some portions of the NEW queue workflow

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Johannes, I opened an issue at upstream: https://github.com/pymumu/smartdns/issues/452 (Note, written in Chinese) Let's wait to see the answer. On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:49:34AM +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Hi, > > Quoting Paul Wise (2020-03-30 10:20:08) > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:53

Bug#955365: ITP: libdist-zilla-plugin-minimumperlfast-perl -- Quickly detects the minimum version of Perl required for your dist

2020-03-30 Thread Dominique Dumont
Package: wnpp Owner: Dominique Dumont Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libdist-zilla-plugin-minimumperlfast-perl Version : 0.003 Upstream Author : Leon Timmermans * URL : https://metacpan.org

Re: Python3 modules not built for all supported Python versions

2020-03-30 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 30/03/2020 16:08, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 15:30:01 +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote: >> does this mean that build-depending on python3-dev is wrong in general and >> should instead be replaced by build-depending on python3-all-dev? > > It is only wrong for packages that buil

Bug#955369: ITP: python3-pykeepass -- keepass database library - Python 3.x Module

2020-03-30 Thread Henry-Nicolas Tourneur
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Henry-Nicolas Tourneur * Package name: python3-pykeepass Version : 3.2.0 Upstream Author : Philipp Schmitt * URL : https://github.com/libkeepass/pykeepass * License : GPL3 Programming Lang: Python Description : k

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le lundi, 30 mars 2020, 10.14:13 h CEST Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > > How should package maintainers deal with QR codes ethically? > > > > Asking package maintainers to rebuild functionally-equivalent QR-codes > > during the build-process seems

Re: Python3 modules not built for all supported Python versions

2020-03-30 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
> I don't know if I'm missing an argument to dh_python3 so that it knows the > python version, or even if there's a better workaround. But perhaps pybuild better workaround is to force cmake to install into versioned dist-packages (that's what I do in distutils) as I didn't find a reliable way to

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > Yet one is a string, and the other one an image. If you edit the string > before turning it into a QR code, you get a valid QR code (maybe > encoding a broken, or misleading URL, but still valid QR code). If you > edit the QR code directly, you _can_ get a valid QR

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Russ Allbery, le lun. 30 mars 2020 12:08:18 -0700, a ecrit: > Surely the QR code is an encoding of a string? Yes, but can you easily modify the URL in that form? Do you have an editor that can open it as such and let you check and modify the URL? > In other words, to me this feels like claiming

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Mon 30 Mar 2020 at 05:54AM +00, Mo Zhou wrote: > I think sometimes the DFSG has been over-interpreted. Here I'm talking about > the recent REJECTion of src:smartdns from our NEW queue, where QR code > pictures > used for donation have been deemed DFSG non-free [1]. I'm not satisfied wi

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/30/20 2:34 PM, Sean Whitton wrote: > The text quoted from the -private IRC channel is a bit misleading. I > was the one who rejected the upload, and it was not actually because of > the QR codes, but for other reasons. I think it was pretty clear from the original email that there was anothe

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le lundi, 30 mars 2020, 21.08:18 h CEST Russ Allbery a écrit : > Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > > Yet one is a string, and the other one an image. If you edit the string > > before turning it into a QR code, you get a valid QR code (maybe > > encoding a broken, or misleading URL, but still valid Q

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > Anyway, I am not really arguing that QR codes (even these) are not > redistributable in Debian source or binary packages (I'm leaving this to > the FTP masters). I am saying that with the tooling we have (qrencode is > one of plenty), it is really easy to produce fu

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Samuel Thibault writes: > Concerning base64-encoded text files, it's quite borderline. Possibly > some editor do support opening base64-encoded files, then it's fine to > have this as source code. Otherwise I don't see it as the preferred > format for modifications. This is not what preferred fo

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Russ Allbery, le lun. 30 mars 2020 13:32:05 -0700, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault writes: > > > Concerning base64-encoded text files, it's quite borderline. Possibly > > some editor do support opening base64-encoded files, then it's fine to > > have this as source code. Otherwise I don't see it as th

Bug#955392: ITP: erlgrind -- Convert Erlang fprof output to callgring output

2020-03-30 Thread Pierre Thierry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pierre Thierry * Package name: elgrind Version : n/a Upstream Author : Isac Sacchi e Souza * URL : https://github.com/isacssouza/erlgrind * License : BSD-2-Clause Programming Lang: Erlang Description : Convert Er

Re: Overinterpretation of DFSG? QR code for receiving donation is non-free???

2020-03-30 Thread James Cloos
> "ST" == Samuel Thibault writes: ST> Shengjing Zhu, le lun. 30 mars 2020 15:53:18 +0800, a ecrit: >> IMO, the QR picture is preferred form of modification as well as the >> origin text. ST> Is there a program which takes a QR code, allows to modify the URL and ST> the picture in the middle,