Re: Bits from the DPL (August 2019)

2019-10-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Sorry about the lateness here, been busy... On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 12:22:34PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Sean" == Sean Whitton writes: > > Sean> You might separate your detailed, narrative descriptions of > Sean> how discussions went from what you took away from the > Sean>

Bug#942180: ITP: golang-github-lk4d4-joincontext -- Golang library to join contexts

2019-10-11 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Smirnov X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pkg-go-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org Control: affects -1 src:nomad Package name: golang-github-lk4d4-joincontext Version: 0.0+git20171026 Upstream Author: Alexander Morozov

Re: Bits from the DPL (August 2019)

2019-10-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/1/19 5:06 PM, Enrico Zini wrote: > If I say something that 1000 people like and one person hates, the > net visible effect in my inbox is probably one angry reply. I very much agree with that. Which is why I don't feel comfortable when Sam making summaries and conclusions of discussions we h

Re: Bits from the DPL (August 2019)

2019-10-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 9/19/19 6:30 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > > On 19/09/2019 00:46, Sam Hartman wrote: > >> Init System Diversity >> = > >> So perhaps sysvinit and init scripts have had their chance and it is >> time to move on. We could move away from init scripts as the default >> re

Init systems and docker

2019-10-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
I have had bugs filed against more than one package I maintain regarding issues with sysv init scripts when used in docker. I have been told by docker users (I'm not one) that systemd as provided on Debian can't be used in docker. I have no idea if that's true or not. I try really hard to kno

Re: Bits from the DPL (August 2019)

2019-10-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/1/19 9:24 PM, Samuel Henrique wrote: > and the centralization > of the discussion in a "tree like" structure are things that I miss a > lot here. Are you saying that you're reading -devel without the "tree like" display of the thread? Outch! I'd strongly suggest using a better client if your

Re: Init systems and docker

2019-10-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2019-10-11 at 18:49 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I have had bugs filed against more than one package I maintain regarding > issues > with sysv init scripts when used in docker. > > I have been told by docker users (I'm not one) that systemd as provided on > Debian can't be used in do

Re: Init systems and docker

2019-10-11 Thread Jose-Luis Rivas
Hello Scott, On 10/11/19 18:49, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I have had bugs filed against more than one package I maintain regarding > issues > with sysv init scripts when used in docker. > > I have been told by docker users (I'm not one) that systemd as provided on > Debian can't be used in dock

Re: Init systems and docker

2019-10-11 Thread Jose-Luis Rivas
Forgot to add that docker has a recommended way of running multiple processes per container and it actually avoids init systems launching its own micro init: https://docs.docker.com/config/containers/multi-service_container/ On 10/11/19 19:25, Jose-Luis Rivas wrote > Here's a little bit of history

Re: Init systems and docker

2019-10-11 Thread Russell Stuart
On Fri, 2019-10-11 at 19:25 -0400, Jose-Luis Rivas wrote: > There's not much sense in using systemd inside a docker container, to > be honest. To put it another way, in the container world the init system belongs outside of the container. That is because the closest thing equivalent to a containe

Re: Init systems and docker

2019-10-11 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 18:49, Scott Kitterman wrote: If it is true, then to the extent we want Debian to be useful for docker does that mean we ought to maintain sysv init scripts? If it's not true, can someone point me to documentation that explains using systemd on Debian in docker?