Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-08 Thread intrigeri
Hi Adam, Adam Borowski: > I also hate with a passion so-called "UX designers". I would love if we tried to make Debian more welcoming to folks with skills that our project lacks, such as UX design and graphics, rather than the opposite. > They work from a Mac while not having to actually use wha

Re: ZFS in Buster

2019-06-08 Thread Aron Xu
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 4:16 PM Philipp Kern wrote: > > On 6/6/2019 8:09 PM, Aron Xu wrote: > > Key interest in the thread is getting some insights about how to deal > > with the awkward situation that affects ZFS experience dramatically - > > Linux will remove those symbols in LTS kernel release,

Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 05:24:17PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: In general: could we please do something to appearance beyond choosing a wallpaper once a release? I fully support more effort on improving the usability, consistency etc. across the GUI stuff we provide. Timing-wise it's best done

Re: ZFS in Buster

2019-06-08 Thread Ondřej Surý
> On 8 Jun 2019, at 10:56, Aron Xu wrote: > > Even further, it's distributed in > the form of dkms source and theoretically not in Debian (contrib) to > save people of Software Freedom Conservancy from being upset about > losing their position of Linux GPL enforcement. I don’t care much about

Re: Question about Debian build infrastructure

2019-06-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 08 Jun 2019 at 02:25:44 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > Am Do., 6. Juni 2019 um 20:33 Uhr schrieb Kyle Edwards > : > > 2. According to https://wiki.debian.org/BuilddSetup, there seems to be > > a distinction between the build broker (wanna-build) and the build > > workers (buildd). Do eithe

Re: ZFS in Buster

2019-06-08 Thread Aron Xu
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 5:33 PM Ondřej Surý wrote: > > > > On 8 Jun 2019, at 10:56, Aron Xu wrote: > > > > Even further, it's distributed in > > the form of dkms source and theoretically not in Debian (contrib) to > > save people of Software Freedom Conservancy from being upset about > > losing th

dMagnetic - A magnetic Scrolls Interpreter just had its release 0.15

2019-06-08 Thread dettus
Hello. I couple of days ago I submitted my project "dMagnetic" to your WNPP list. Today I released Version 0.15. Just wanted to keep this bugreport updated. Thomas

Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:24 PM Adam Borowski wrote: > In general: could we please do something to appearance beyond choosing a > wallpaper once a release? Please note that modifying the appearance of apps can annoy upstreams: https://stopthemingmy.app/ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/05/open-l

Bug#930216: ITP: python-noise -- Perlin noise for image generation

2019-06-08 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Moeller * Package name: python-noise Version : 1.2.3 * URL : https://github.com/casemane/noise * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : Perlin noise for image generation To be team maintained

Re: Suspending Offer to Reimburse Expenses for Attending Future Bug Squashing Parties

2019-06-08 Thread Tobias Frost
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:10:12PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 09:19:03AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Handling reimbursements for BSPs has significantly crossed my threshhold > > for not being fun with our current procedures. We absolutely should > > reimburse developer

Bug#930219: ITP: node-dagre-layout -- Graph layout for JavaScript

2019-06-08 Thread Pirate Praveen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pirate Praveen X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name : node-dagre-layout Version : 0.8.8 Upstream Author : Tyler Long * URL : https://github.com/tylingsoft/dagre-layout#readme * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Descrip

Re: ZFS in Buster

2019-06-08 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2019-06-08 18:11:28 +0800 (+0800), Aron Xu wrote: > On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 5:33 PM Ondřej Surý wrote: > > On 8 Jun 2019, at 10:56, Aron Xu wrote: > > > Even further, it's distributed in the form of dkms source and > > > theoretically not in Debian (contrib) to save people of > > > Software Fre

Bug#930223: ITP: node-dagre-d3-renderer -- D3-based renderer for Dagre

2019-06-08 Thread Pirate Praveen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pirate Praveen X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name : node-dagre-d3-renderer Version : 0.5.8 Upstream Author : Liad Yosef * URL : https://github.com/tylingsoft/dagre-d3-renderer#readme * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript

Re: Suspending Offer to Reimburse Expenses for Attending Future Bug Squashing Parties

2019-06-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Tobias" == Tobias Frost writes: Tobias> On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:10:12PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 09:19:03AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: >> > Handling reimbursements for BSPs has significantly crossed my >> threshhold > for not being fun with o

Re: ZFS in Buster

2019-06-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Jeremy" == Jeremy Stanley writes: Jeremy> Your earlier message also implied the motives behind Jeremy> Conservancy's recommendations to be something other than a Jeremy> desire to protect projects relying on free/libre open source Jeremy> software licenses from making costl

Re: speeding up installs

2019-06-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 at 19:29:49 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > A desktop install can writeout > while the user answers installer questions I can't help wondering whether the right answer for a finite number of relatively predictable installations (a minimal system, or all of Priority: standard, or

Re: speeding up installs

2019-06-08 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/06/08 19:36, Simon McVittie wrote: > If the pre-prepared installation image is in a suitable format (for > example an unpacked tree, squashfs or OSTree, but not a tarball or an > OCI image), then there's no reason it couldn't also be bootable as a > stateless live system. It might be usefu

Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 10:21:22AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 05:24:17PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > In general: could we please do something to appearance beyond choosing a > > wallpaper once a release? > > I fully support more effort on improving the usability,

Concern for: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-06-08 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:11:14AM -0700, Mo Zhou wrote: > Hi people, I see your good intention but this is basically changing status-quo for the main requirement. > https://salsa.debian.org/lumin/deeplearning-policy > (issue tracker is enabled) I read it ;-) > This draft is conservati

Re: speeding up installs

2019-06-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 06:36:30PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 at 19:29:49 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > A desktop install can writeout > > while the user answers installer questions > > I can't help wondering whether the right answer for a finite number > of relatively pr

Re: @debian.org mail

2019-06-08 Thread Florian Reitmeir
Am 06.06.2019 um 12:49 schrieb Bjørn Mork: Daniel Lange writes: We have more people registered for DebConf ("the Debian Developers' conference") with @gmail.com than @debian.org addresses. You can't fix @gmail.com. It is deliberately broken for commercial reasons, and that won't stop with SP

Re: speeding up installs

2019-06-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 07:45:50PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > It might be useful to some that we'll have a 'standard' image for Debian > Live Buster. This is a base image with Debian standard that doesn't > contain any desktop environment. It ships with d-i with a module that > just unsquashes

Re: speeding up installs

2019-06-08 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/06/08 21:43, Adam Borowski wrote: > I like this. The d-i is nothing but a glorified live image already. On > every not completely non-eventful install I find myself wishing this live > system wasn't crippled for space reasons. This crippling was intentional -- > d-i was designed in the d

Re: Suspending Offer to Reimburse Expenses for Attending Future Bug Squashing Parties

2019-06-08 Thread Dominik George
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, > I'm hurt reading your message and Holger's. > I wrote to the project saying that the current situation sucked for me. > I got some great offers of help and I think this issue will be easy to > resolve. > > But then I got a message from holger

Re: ZFS in Buster

2019-06-08 Thread Jeremy Stanley
[No need to Cc an extra copy, I've been a d-d subscriber since... the 1990s?] On 2019-06-08 13:00:02 -0400 (-0400), Sam Hartman wrote: > Jeremy Stanley writes: > > Your earlier message also implied the motives behind > > Conservancy's recommendations to be something other than a > > desire to pro

Re: speeding up installs

2019-06-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 3:44 AM Adam Borowski wrote: > So if you took current d-i and planted it into a regular live image IIRC debian-live used to have that but it was too buggy so it got removed. Later Calamares replaced it. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Concern for: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-06-08 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Osamu, On 2019-06-08 18:43, Osamu Aoki wrote: >> This draft is conservative and overkilling, and currently >> only focus on software freedom. That's exactly where we >> start, right? > > OK but it can't be where we end-up-with. That's why I said the two words "conservative" and "overkilling".

Re: Concern for: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-06-08 Thread Yao Wei (魏銘廷)
Hi, >> With a labeling like "ToxicCandy Model" for the situation, it makes bad >> impression on people and I am afraid people may not be make rational >> decision. Is this characterization correct and sane one? At least, >> it looks to me that this is changing status-quo of our policy and >> pra