Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/04/19 at 08:52 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 05:35:40PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 04:55:12PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > biococoa (U) does not use Debhelper (no compat level found) > > > (source version: 2.2.2-4) > > >

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Niels Thykier
Lucas Nussbaum: > On 16/04/19 at 08:52 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 05:35:40PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 04:55:12PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: biococoa (U) does not use Debhelper (no compat level found) (source version:

Bits from /me: Difficulties in Deep Learning Framework Packaging

2019-04-16 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi people, This message is neither a good news, nor asking for help. I'm writing to share some of my points about Deep Learning Framework packaging, after a re-evaluation of the status of TensorFlow's latest build systems. My thoughts are concluded from failures instead of success. That said, they

[prototype] Debian User Repository Toolkit 0.0a release

2019-04-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 09.04.19 05:32, Mo Zhou wrote: Hi, > I drafted a 0.0 alpha release[1] for the toolkit, and created a logo for > the DUPR project. From now on I'll try to add more packaging scripts > (maybe I should call them recipes) to the default collection[2]. > Packaing plans are tracked here[3], and mayb

Re: Bits from /me: Difficulties in Deep Learning Framework Packaging

2019-04-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Dear Mo, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:12:44AM +, Mo Zhou wrote: > ... > This time I'm really giving up all related efforts [12], and shall never > touch them again. I don't feel pity, even if these points seem to be > tightly connected to some of my Debian activities. Apart from that, I'm > stil

Re: [Idea] Debian User Repository? (Not simply mimicing AUR)

2019-04-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 10.04.19 03:53, Russ Allbery wrote: Hi, > Possibly my least favorite> thing about RPMs is the spec files, because by > smashing everything> together into the same file, the syntax of that file is absurd. This bit> is a shell script! This bit is a configuration file! This bit is> human-read

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi again, speaking about false positives: libhmsbeagle (U) should switch to dh. Current build system: debhelper (source version: 3.1.2+dfsg-5) I have no idea what might have triggered this on the current d/rules file[1]. Kind regards Andreas. [1] https://salsa.debian.org/me

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Niels Thykier
Andreas Tille: > Hi again, > > speaking about false positives: > >libhmsbeagle (U) should switch to dh. Current build system: > debhelper (source version: 3.1.2+dfsg-5) > > I have no idea what might have triggered this on the current d/rules > file[1]. > > Kind regards > >

Re: PPAs (Re: [Idea] Debian User Repository? (Not simply mimicing AUR))

2019-04-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 10.04.19 16:56, Helmut Grohne wrote: Hi, > I looked into this. Your reasons are sound and you are scratching your> itch. > This is great. ACK. It's always good when people make their hands dirty and work on solving actual problems. Even if the actual output (=code, etc) finally doesn't get wi

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Niels, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 12:54:00PM +, Niels Thykier wrote: > > speaking about false positives: > > > >libhmsbeagle (U) should switch to dh. Current build system: > > debhelper (source version: 3.1.2+dfsg-5) > > > > I have no idea what might have triggered this on the c

Re: PPAs (Re: [Idea] Debian User Repository? (Not simply mimicing AUR))

2019-04-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 11.04.19 09:44, Mo Zhou wrote: > Different from that, duprkit's design don't hope to limit> the user with any > pre-defined "sequence", but enable the users to> selectively call the functions they need. In other words, the> user can define how to deal with the prepared source+debian directorie

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 13.04.19 10:20, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > TL;DR: see https://trends.debian.net and > https://trends.debian.net/#smells > > Hi, > > Following this blog post[1] I did some work on setting up a proper > framework to graph historical trends about Debian packaging practices. > The result is now avail

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Niels Thykier
Andreas Tille: > Hi Niels, > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 12:54:00PM +, Niels Thykier wrote: >>> speaking about false positives: >>> >>>libhmsbeagle (U) should switch to dh. Current build system: >>> debhelper (source version: 3.1.2+dfsg-5) >>> >>> I have no idea what might have trig

Re: Bits from /me: Difficulties in Deep Learning Framework Packaging

2019-04-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Thanks for the feedback. In the accessibility team we had interest in https://github.com/mozilla/DeepSpeech but I got quickly afraid but the mention of "TensorFlow" in dependencies, it seems I was right in not taking time to have a look, unfortunately. Samuel

Bug#927225: ITP: upass -- console UI for password-store

2019-04-16 Thread Dominik George
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominik George -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: upass Version : 0.3.0 Upstream Author : Chris Warrick * URL : https://github.com/Kwpolska/upass * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang:

Re: Bits from /me: Difficulties in Deep Learning Framework Packaging

2019-04-16 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Andreas, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 02:29:54PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Thanks a lot for the summary and all your previous work you've spent > into this. As far as I understand your summary it would be even > "burning" a student if we would throw theses packaging task on a > student in a GSo

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 01:57:00PM +, Niels Thykier wrote: > > > Similarly > > > > prottest (U) should switch to dh. Current build system: > > debhelper (source version: 3.4.2+dfsg-3) > > python-pyfaidx (U) should switch to dh. Current build system: > > debhelper (source v

Bug#927238: ITP: dte -- Small and easy to use console text editor

2019-04-16 Thread Mirek Kratochvil
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mirek Kratochvil * Package name: dte Version : 1.7 Upstream Author : Craig Barnes * URL : https://craigbarnes.gitlab.io/dte/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Small and easy to use console text ed

Re: Golang >= 1.12 in Buster?

2019-04-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 4/15/19 9:24 AM, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 21:11:09 +0200 > > "Dr. Tobias Quathamer" wrote: > >> I think it's the right decision of the release team to stick with golang > >> 1.11 for buster. The previous migration from golang 1.10

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 4/13/19 10:20 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > TL;DR: see https://trends.debian.net and > https://trends.debian.net/#smells > > Hi, > > Following this blog post[1] I did some work on setting up a proper > framework to graph historical trends about Debian packaging practices. > The result is now ava

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/04/16 21:51, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I'm not sure if I should say thanks, or just hide myself behind the > wall, considering how much work there would be to fix all of these > packages that I need to fix... :/ Heh, that's exactly why these graphs are so great! Rome wasn't built in a day ei

Re: Bits from /me: Difficulties in Deep Learning Framework Packaging

2019-04-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 02:29:54PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >... > As far as I understand your summary it would be even > "burning" a student if we would throw theses packaging task on a > student in a GSoC / outreachy project (I'm aware that we are usually > not supporting packaging tasks in th

Re: Introducting Debian Trends: historical graphs about Debian packaging practices, and "packages smells"

2019-04-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/04/19 at 15:55 +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 13.04.19 10:20, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > TL;DR: see https://trends.debian.net and > > https://trends.debian.net/#smells > > > > Hi, > > > > Following this blog post[1] I did some work on setting up a proper > > framework to

Bug#927248: ITP: redfishtool -- redfish command-line client

2019-04-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: redfishtool Version : 1.0.8 Upstream Author : DMTF, https://www.dmtf.org/standards/feedback * URL : https://github.com/DMTF/Redfishtool * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Python

Re: Bits from /me: Difficulties in Deep Learning Framework Packaging

2019-04-16 Thread Roger Shimizu
Dear Mo, Thanks for your work! On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:53 PM Mo Zhou wrote: > > The student may also need access to a strong build machine. My Xeon > E5-2687v4 x1 [1] takes about 20 minutes to finish a build, while my > laptop (I5-7440HQ) takes ~90 minutes. Have you tried ccache? Interested

Re: Bits from the Release Team: buster freeze update

2019-04-16 Thread Hugh McMaster
Hi Jonathan, On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 7:38 am, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > At the time of writing 150 release-critical bugs affect buster. This is the > number which needs to reach zero before the release can take place. What’s the easiest way to get a list of these RC bugs? Hugh

Re: Bits from the Release Team: buster freeze update

2019-04-16 Thread Boyuan Yang
在 2019-04-17三的 08:44 +1000,Hugh McMaster写道: > Hi Jonathan, > > On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 7:38 am, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > > At the time of writing 150 release-critical bugs affect buster. > > This is the > > number which needs to reach zero before the release can take place. > > What’s the easie

Re: Bits from /me: Difficulties in Deep Learning Framework Packaging

2019-04-16 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Adrian, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:07:34PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > How many percent of the paid GSoC and Outreachy student workers > continue unpaid afterwards and become a DM or DD? It's not realistic to expect a student to continue any unpaid effort after the GSoC / Outreachy particip

Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-16 Thread Matthias Klose
On 13.04.19 17:01, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 15371 March 1977, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > >>> How is the move to debian-ports supposed to happen? I won't have the >>> time to do anything about it within the 2 weeks. > >> The process to inject all packages to debian-ports is to get all the >> deb, ud

Re: Bits from /me: Difficulties in Deep Learning Framework Packaging

2019-04-16 Thread intrigeri
Adrian Bunk: > Outreachy is a complete failure.[1] > […] > [1] If anyone has data to prove that I am wrong, please let me to know. I only have one single data point: the only person I've been an Outreachy mentor for is now an active, uploading DD. Cheers, -- intrigeri

Re: Bits from the Release Team: buster freeze update

2019-04-16 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 08:44:20AM +1000, Hugh McMaster wrote: > > At the time of writing 150 release-critical bugs affect buster. This is the > > number which needs to reach zero before the release can take place. > > > What’s the easiest way to get a list of these RC bugs? https://udd.debian.or