Re: wording: "reverse dependence" vs "depender"

2017-01-02 Thread Josh Triplett
Adam Borowski wrote: > I wonder, would it be better if we switched to using the word "depender" > in place of "reverse dependency"? It certainly sounds clumsier, but it > is far less likely to be confused, especially by new readers. I myself > often find sentences which include references to both

Re: wording: "reverse dependence" vs "depender"

2017-01-02 Thread Miguel Figueiredo
On 02-01-2017 08:00, Josh Triplett wrote: "packages that depend on" +1

Re: Feedback on 3.0 source format problems

2017-01-02 Thread Josh Triplett
Guillem Jover wrote: > I'm interested in what things people still find so off-putting to the > point of not wanting to use the new 3.0 source formats, or what makes > people use them in anger and similar (if people would state which one > of these apply that would be helpful). All these including o

Re: Feedback on 3.0 source format problems

2017-01-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 2 janvier 2017 00:57 -0800, Josh Triplett  : > I don't want the source format to care about details like those. If > people want to use quilt to manage a patch series within their packages, > they can do so, but the source format shouldn't care about that. The > source format should not atte

Re: Feedback on 3.0 source format problems

2017-01-02 Thread Josh Triplett
Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 2 janvier 2017 00:57 -0800, Josh Triplett : > > > I don't want the source format to care about details like those. If > > people want to use quilt to manage a patch series within their > > packages, > > they can do so, but the source format shouldn't care about that. T

Re: Feedback on 3.0 source format problems

2017-01-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 2 janvier 2017 01:45 -0800, Josh Triplett  : >> > I don't want the source format to care about details like those. >> > If people want to use quilt to manage a patch series within their >> > packages, they can do so, but the source format shouldn't care >> > about that. The source format shou

Re: Feedback on 3.0 source format problems

2017-01-02 Thread Josh Triplett
Vincent Bernat wrote: > > Personally, when I want to patch a random package, I run "debcheckout > > package-name", make changes, commit them, format-patch, and mail that > > to > > the BTS. If the package doesn't have an appropriate Vcs field for > > debcheckout to read, I instead run "apt source

Re: Feedback on 3.0 source format problems

2017-01-02 Thread Sean Whitton
Dear Josh, On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 03:25:29AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > Currently working on some improvements in that direction, to separate > repository format from workflow. I'd like to encourage you to read my dgit-maint-merge(7) workflow tutorial. Perhaps the work to which you refer cou

Re: [Fwd: [Pkg-pascal-devel] Bug#472304: marked as done (fpc: doesn't link dynamically)]

2017-01-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 00:29 +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > Dear All, > > Since last month I'm really stuck with a spammer closing this very same > bug#472304 as soon as I reopen it. > > I've reported abuse multiple times via the link at the foot of the bug page > but > nothing changed. That r

Re: dput: Call for feedback: What should change? What should stay the same? [and 1 more messages]

2017-01-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 07:07:31AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Much appreciated. Yes, one aspiration I eventually hope to achieve have > is to resolve the fork by merging the desirable features of both back > into ‘dput’, and discarding behaviour that we decide is no longer > helpful. Freedom of

Re: Feedback on 3.0 source format problems

2017-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Josh Triplett writes: > That page already captures my primary issue with "3.0 (quilt)": it acts > like a version control system, and interacts poorly with other version > control systems. I think it's better to think of it as a portable interchange format for version control systems than a versi

Re: [Fwd: [Pkg-pascal-devel] Bug#472304: marked as done (fpc: doesn't link dynamically)]

2017-01-02 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 12:29:35AM +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > Dear All, > > Since last month I'm really stuck with a spammer closing this very same > bug#472304 as soon as I reopen it. > > I've reported abuse multiple times via the link at the foot of the bug page > but > nothing changed.

Re: [Fwd: [Pkg-pascal-devel] Bug#472304: marked as done (fpc: doesn't link dynamically)]

2017-01-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 07:25:04PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > Banning those words in the Subject-line to our BTS would be too hars. ITYM "won't". -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Fwd: [Pkg-pascal-devel] Bug#472304: marked as done (fpc: doesn't link dynamically)]

2017-01-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 12:29:35AM +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote: > I've reported abuse multiple times via the link at the foot of the bug page > but > nothing changed. Probably we don't have enough people looking at the spam reports. That probably could be improved with better advertising, e.g. o

Re: Can we kill net-tools, please?

2017-01-02 Thread Martín Ferrari
On 31/12/16 09:23, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 14533 March 1977, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > dak override net-tools net optional > I: Will change priority from important to optional > Continue (y/N)? y Thanks! -- Martín Ferrari (Tincho)

Re: Feedback on 3.0 source format problems

2017-01-02 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jan 02 2017, Russ Allbery wrote: > Furthermore, it forces a rebased, clean representation of the patches, > which I for one hugely prefer to the mess that you get if someone was > packaging in Git and just randomly commits things directly to the > packaging branch intermixed with merges from up

Re: Feedback on 3.0 source format problems

2017-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Nikolaus Rath writes: > On Jan 02 2017, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Furthermore, it forces a rebased, clean representation of the patches, >> which I for one hugely prefer to the mess that you get if someone was >> packaging in Git and just randomly commits things directly to the >> packaging branch

Re: Feedback on 3.0 source format problems

2017-01-02 Thread Christoph Biedl
Vincent Bernat wrote... > For me, this is a great improvement over the previous format with > several different patching systems (quilt, dpatch, nothing, > custom). Now, most packages are using quilt, one less thing to > understand. That's for sure, and I doubt there are many people who consider

Re: [Fwd: [Pkg-pascal-devel] Bug#472304: marked as done (fpc: doesn't link dynamically)]

2017-01-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 2:28 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > Probably we don't have enough people looking at the spam reports. That > probably could be improved with better advertising, e.g. on > https://www.debian.org/intro/help Right now only the BTS admins can look at and act on spam reports. I

Converting to dgit (was: How to get history into dgit)

2017-01-02 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Dec 11 2016, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >>> I would like to start using dgit for one of my packages, using the >>> dgit-maint-merge workflow. >>> If I understood correctly, following the dgit-maint-merge(7) >>> instructions for the initial setup will give me a repository with only >>> the upstream gi

Re: compression support in kmod

2017-01-02 Thread Christoph Biedl
Christian Seiler wrote... > tl;dr: I don't think compression modules will increase boot times > on HDDs in any significant manner, but it may be a good idea to > support that just to reduce the amount of space required on disk. Well, sometimes I remember I was shocked to learn in the MBR partitio

Re: Converting to dgit (was: How to get history into dgit)

2017-01-02 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Nikolaus, On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 07:22:54PM -0800, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > I'll have to bring this up one more time. I just read > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794244, and that > sounds (in "USING GIT-DPM WITH DGIT FOR THE FIRST TIME") as if I should > also stitch the ex