Re: libsystemd [was: Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?]

2016-08-27 Thread Dmitry Bogatov
> > > * conntrackd & systemd are very good integrated (using libsystemd) > > > > I hugely support idea of dynamically loading libsystemd. > > Please don't, no. While I do think packages should keep sysvinit > support as long as it continues to work and doesn't make other paths > worse, I don't t

Re: libsystemd [was: Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?]

2016-08-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:33:36AM +0300, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > > > I hugely support idea of dynamically loading libsystemd. > > > > Please don't, no. While I do think packages should keep sysvinit > > support as long as it continues to work and doesn't make other paths > > worse, I don't think

Re: removal instead of orphaning?

2016-08-27 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Sebastian Reichel , 2016-08-27, 02:24: rc-alert -dU `wnpp-alert | grep "^O " | cut -d' ' -f 3` I don't think this handles the case when the RC bug was filed against a binary package that has a different name than the source package. Anyway, it's not like orphaned are the only packages that

Bug#835579: ITP: r-bioc-biomformat -- GNU R interface package for the BIOM file format

2016-08-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-bioc-biomformat Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Author : Paul J. McMurdie * URL : http://www.bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/biomformat.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: GNU R

Re: libsystemd [was: Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?]

2016-08-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 at 10:33:36 +0300, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > > > > > * conntrackd & systemd are very good integrated (using libsystemd) > > > > > > I hugely support idea of dynamically loading libsystemd. > > > > Please don't, no. While I do think packages should keep sysvinit > > support as l

Problem with "systemd-logind" service on an LDAP client

2016-08-27 Thread Matthias Scheler
Hello, I'm running Debian Sid 64bit inside a KVM virtual machine. The system is an LDAP and NFS client of a Debian 8 server. This setup has been working fine for month. At some point this week (Wednesday?) a new version of "libc-bin" was released and I rebooted the machine afterwards. Si

Re: libsystemd [was: Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?]

2016-08-27 Thread Dmitry Bogatov
> Once per thread about systemd, I point out that dbus-daemon links to both > libapparmor and libselinux - which results in at least one useless library > for literally everyone with dbus installed, since "major" LSMs don't > stack, so nobody can possibly be using both AppArmor and SELinux at the

Re: removal instead of orphaning?

2016-08-27 Thread Paul Gevers
On 26-08-16 23:40, Julien Cristau wrote: >> Who is this a burden for? As long as there are no RC bugs filed for >> the orphaned packages, I don't see any a direct reason to remove >> them. If no-one used the package, then sure, the package is really >> useless. But if at least some people are using

Bug#835516: General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie

2016-08-27 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 09:36:12AM -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > > Package: general > Severity: important > > Dear Debian developers, > > I am currently testing ISPConfig with Debian Jessie and Jailkit. > > Apparently the chrooted SSH users are not able to log on. I'm using > Debian GNU/Linux

Re: removal instead of orphaning?

2016-08-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: > I suggest that everybody that orphans a package makes a statement in the > wnpp bug report on why (s)he believes orphaning is better than removal. > If people agree with my idea here, I'll suggest a change to the > reportbug template for orpha

Re: removal instead of orphaning?

2016-08-27 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 27 août 2016 12:23 CEST, Andrew Shadura  : >> Today I was, once again, surprised to see how many (low popcon) orphaned >> packages we have. I believe that orphanage is a burden to our community >> in the sense that not all packages are picked up by a new maintainer and >> these packages need so

Re: removal instead of orphaning?

2016-08-27 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi On 27-08-16 13:33, Vincent Bernat wrote: > Sometimes, a package is still worthwhile even without a maintainer. And all I ask is the original maintainer to take this into account (of course only making an estimate for the users) when (s)he is deciding what to do with the package. Paul signa

Re: libsystemd [was: Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?]

2016-08-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-08-27 at 06:26, Andrew Shadura wrote: > On 27 August 2016 at 10:33, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > >> Like compat package, which provides libsystemd.a static library >> and headers, that mirrors interface of libsystemd. This library >> would forward call to actual libsystemd, if it exists and r

Re: removal instead of orphaning?

2016-08-27 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Paul, On 27-08-16 13:15, Paul Wise wrote: > The long tail of less used and orphaned packages has value. > Deletionism is bad on Wikipedia and in Debian too. Can you also please explain WHY you have this opinion? Because I don't understand it. I think I understand it for Wikipedia, but why for

Re: removal instead of orphaning?

2016-08-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 02:02:39PM +0200, Paul Gevers wrote: > And how do we balance the work it takes for those doing QA on those > packages (for whatever reason) versus the value mentioned by Paul? As > mentioned so often, popcon has it's value, but is definitely not the answer. We have several

Re: How to distinguish .udeb files from regular .deb files?

2016-08-27 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2016-08-19 at 13:47:15 +0200, Philipp Hahn wrote: > I accidentally called "dpkg-name" on some *.udeb files and they got > renamed to .deb. Yes, and the reasons are a bit ugly, so you might want to skip the following paragraph… This is the consequence of the half-assed integration of

Re: libsystemd [was: Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?]

2016-08-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 07:36:02AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > There is one minor/cosmetic downside of libsystemd as currently > provided, however: the apt-listchanges changelog. > > The only '*systemd*' package which I have installed is libsystemd0. > However, whenever I dist-upgrade (which is a

Bug#835516: General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie

2016-08-27 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, Santiago. Thanks for your reply. El sábado 27 de agosto del 2016 a las 12:07:58 +0200, Santiago Vila escribió: > It would be a bug, yes, but that's not a change that we made. > > A standard install of Debian jessie is usually made by a program > called debian-installer. This program runs fr

Bug#835516: General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie

2016-08-27 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, 2016-08-27 at 12:07 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 09:36:12AM -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote: [...] > > I think that jailkit just copies the permissions that Debian has set as > > default for /bin which are different now according to the jailkit shell. > > > > There see

Bug#835516: General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie

2016-08-27 Thread Daniel Bareiro
El sábado 27 de agosto del 2016 a las 12:36:47 -0300, Daniel Bareiro escribió: > Here I find a pattern, since the difference of permissions mentioned in > the previous mail was found in a KVM virtual machine installed using the > netinstall CD. > > But I have checked in other Jessie virtual machi

Re: Bug#835516: General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie

2016-08-27 Thread Hans
Hello all! What is correct? 755 or 775? I have 775, and I did install from the DVD (however, about 7 years ago!). I never changed any permissions manually, so I believe, this settings are now for a lng time. Best Hans

Bug#835626: ITP: fonts-mononoki -- a font for programming and code review

2016-08-27 Thread Vasudev Kamath
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vasudev Kamath * Package name: fonts-mononoki Version : 1.2 Upstream Author : Matthias Tellen * URL : https://github.com/madmalik/mononoki * License : OFL-1.1 Programming Lang: font Description : a font for progra

Bug#835516: General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie

2016-08-27 Thread Daniel Bareiro
El sábado 27 de agosto del 2016 a las 17:37:05 +0100, Adam D. Barratt escribió: > fwiw I think this might be a side-effect of the issues described in > https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2016/03/msg00035.html and > surrounding messages. Hi, Adam. Thank you for your contribution. Maybe Santi

Bug#835516: General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie

2016-08-27 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 07:59:32PM +0200, Hans wrote: > What is correct? 755 or 775? I have 775, and I did install from the DVD > (however, about 7 years ago!). We want it to be 755, so if they end up being 775, that's a bug. It should be harmless because /bin is owned by root, and by default o

Bug#835516: General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie

2016-08-27 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 835516 debian-installer thanks I think this is a bug in debian-installer, because debootstrap is apparently not affected by the umask setting (be it 002 or 022). Reassigning accordingly. Dear d-i people: Short summary: New systems installed from Debian 8 netinst image have /bin with mod

Processed: Re: Bug#835516: General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie

2016-08-27 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 835516 debian-installer Bug #835516 [general] General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'debian-installer'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #835516 to the same values

Re: libsystemd [was: Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?]

2016-08-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Dmitry Bogatov writes: > You convinced me. If I pursue simplicity, it would be better to just > recompile packages to get rid of unwanted dependencies. I strongly suspect the amount of time you have spent participating in this thread already exceeds all benefit you will ever achieve from recompi

Re: Bug#835516: General: Incorrect permissions on /bin for Debian Jessie

2016-08-27 Thread Santiago Vila
I have finally reassigned this to sed: # dpkg -c sed_4.2.2-4+b1_amd64.deb | grep bin drwxrwxr-x root/root 0 2014-11-08 19:28 ./bin/

Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?

2016-08-27 Thread Bart Schouten
Holger Levsen schreef op 26-08-2016 14:16: So, obviously from my point of view, lack of sysvinit support is not a bug. And policy supports your view, considering the above (*) are "compelling reasons" to do so. (*) and the fact that conntrackd is linux only… Personally I do not run a non-

Re: removal instead of orphaning?

2016-08-27 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 11:40:03 +0200, Paul Gevers wrote: > On 26-08-16 23:40, Julien Cristau wrote: > > off the top of my head: > > - it's wasting time of anyone doing QA work > > - it's wasting time of any user who looks for a piece of software to > > do > > $stuff and gets to eliminate all the

Bug#835654: RFH: net-snmp -- SNMP configuration script, MIBs and documentation

2016-08-27 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the net-snmp package. I was active maintainer from Jan 2013 to Apr 2015 but lost interest in it, other members in team seems to be busy. So, someone who want to continue to use snmp will be the maintainer is welcome. The packa

Re: libsystemd [was: Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?]

2016-08-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:33:36AM +0300, Dmitry Bogatov wrote: > > > I hugely support idea of dynamically loading libsystemd. > > > > Please don't, no. While I do think packages should keep sysvinit > > support as long as it continues to work and doesn't make other paths > > worse, I don't think