Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Tiago Ilieve
Pirate, On 8 April 2016 at 02:30, Pirate Praveen wrote: > I use 'cowbuilder --login' chroot to test gitlab installs on a clean system. Maybe you can use an environment that's a little bit closer to a standard system installation (at least to a point where you can expect normal APT behavior), lik

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 00:02:08 + (UTC) Felipe Sateler wrote: > On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 17:16:18 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 15:27:48 + (UTC) > > Felipe Sateler wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:18:10 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > >> > - other indicators > >>

Bug#820421: ITP: golang-github-smartystreets-assertions -- fluent assertion-style functions

2016-04-08 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Smirnov X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pkg-go-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org Control: affects -1 golang-github-smartystreets-goconvey Package name: golang-github-smartystreets-assertions Version: 1.6.0 Upstream Author:

Bug#820420: ITP: php7cc -- command line tool to detect PHP 7 incompatible code

2016-04-08 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Smirnov X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pkg-php-p...@lists.alioth.debian.org Package name: php7cc Version: 1.0.2 License: Expat URL: https://github.com/sstalle/php7cc Vcs-Browser: https://anonscm.debia

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 2016, ഏപ്രിൽ 8 12:42:30 PM IST, Tiago Ilieve wrote: >Maybe you can use an environment that's a little bit closer to a >standard system installation (at least to a point where you can expect >normal APT behavior), like a Docker or LXC container, which are >lighter than complete virtual machine

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Adrien CLERC
Le 08/04/2016 05:49, Harlan Lieberman-Berg a écrit : > [1]: I say default here, but really, systems which turn off installing > things which are Recommended are almost unusuable; I know for a while > it was the policy of #debian to just turn away people who had done > that because the system would

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 09:58:04 +0200 Adrien CLERC wrote: > Le 08/04/2016 05:49, Harlan Lieberman-Berg a écrit : > > [1]: I say default here, but really, systems which turn off > > installing things which are Recommended are almost unusuable; I > > know for a while it was the policy of #debian to jus

Re: /usr/bin/openssl failed on sso.debian.org

2016-04-08 Thread Enrico Zini
On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 08:05:17PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > some people have reported getting a "/usr/bin/openssl failed" error when > enrolling their browser on sso.debian.org, and I am not able to deal > with it. Help? The error is reproducible while running a checkout of debsso locally on a

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Pirate Praveen (2016-04-08 09:48:59) > On 2016, ഏപ്രിൽ 8 12:42:30 PM IST, Tiago Ilieve wrote: > >Maybe you can use an environment that's a little bit closer to a > >standard system installation (at least to a point where you can expect > >normal APT behavior), like a Docker or LXC con

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Adrien CLERC
Le 08/04/2016 10:10, Neil Williams a écrit : > On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 09:58:04 +0200 > Adrien CLERC wrote: > >> Le 08/04/2016 05:49, Harlan Lieberman-Berg a écrit : >>> [1]: I say default here, but really, systems which turn off >>> installing things which are Recommended are almost unusuable; I >>> k

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 10:47:16 +0200 Adrien CLERC wrote: > >> It makes me think I'd love a system where Apt::Install-Recommends > >> could be set to "ask" and let apt ask me if I want the recommended > >> packages for my current request. > > apt already shows you which packages are to be brought i

Re: /usr/bin/openssl failed on sso.debian.org

2016-04-08 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > The error is reproducible while running a checkout of debsso locally on > a ./manage.py runserver. See README for dependencies, and > django-oauth-toolkit and django-cors-headers are now at least in Debian > testing. > > I ran it loca

Bug#820432: ITP: r-cran-rnexml -- GNU R package for semantically rich I/O for the 'NeXML' format

2016-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-cran-rnexml Version : 2.0.6-1 Upstream Author : Carl Boettiger * URL : https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/RNeXML/ * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: R Description : GN

Re: /usr/bin/openssl failed on sso.debian.org

2016-04-08 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 11:22:53AM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > So, chrome just went and removed support for it. It now just silently > fails. It can be reenabled somehow, but then the key is not pushed into > the browser keystore, but only downloaded. No viable alternative > suggested to what they

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-08 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 18:26:32 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Felipe Sateler writes: >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 10:34:24 +1000, Brian May wrote: > >>> In the past I have maintained some important packages by doing regular >>> NMUs when the maintainer is not responsive (including emails asking to >>> tak

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 01:08:49PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016, at 12:20, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > That is, email debian-devel and the maintainer (again) with a very > > respectful mail saying you think the package needs help, that you're > > happy to help, and that unless th

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Ben, On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 01:52:19AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > For the packages in Debian Science and Debian Med I tend to think that > > it accommodates a bunch of packages that mostly are of historic value > > now. People may  use them to compare how well their new methods compare >

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Josh Triplett
Adrien CLERC wrote: > Le 08/04/2016 05:49, Harlan Lieberman-Berg a écrit : > > [1]: I say default here, but really, systems which turn off installing > > things which are Recommended are almost unusuable; I know for a while > > it was the policy of #debian to just turn away people who had done > >

Re: /usr/bin/openssl failed on sso.debian.org

2016-04-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Enrico Zini (2016-04-08 11:22:53) > On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:14:15AM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > > > The error is reproducible while running a checkout of debsso locally on > > a ./manage.py runserver. See README for dependencies, and > > django-oauth-toolkit and django-cors-headers are

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:49:38PM -0400, Harlan Lieberman-Berg wrote: > [1]: I say default here, but really, systems which turn off installing > things which are Recommended are almost unusuable; I know for a while it > was the policy of #debian to just turn away people who had done that > because

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2016-04-08 18:31 Josh Triplett: Agreed. I turned off Recommends years ago on all my systems, because it installs too many things I don't want (by both the mild "takes up space" criteria and in many cases the "don't want an extra daemon running" criteria). Here's a Python script (using python-a

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Adam Borowski (2016-04-08 21:05:23) > On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:49:38PM -0400, Harlan Lieberman-Berg wrote: >> [1]: I say default here, but really, systems which turn off >> installing things which are Recommended are almost unusuable; I know >> for a while it was the policy of #debian t

Re: /usr/bin/openssl failed on sso.debian.org

2016-04-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2016-04-08 21:06:33) > Quoting Enrico Zini (2016-04-08 11:22:53) >> So, chrome just went and removed support for it. [...] > The W3C public-rww list has some possibly interesting references > related to this issue: > https://www.w3.org/mid/https://www.w3.org/mid/20150730

Re: PHP 5 to PHP 7.0 transition and change of PHP packaging to allow coinstallable versions

2016-04-08 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi all that are checking their packages against php7.0, On 12-01-16 14:53, Ondřej Surý wrote: > PHP 7.0 has landed in unstable with substantial changes to the > packaging: > > 1. Every package built from src:phpMAJOR.MINOR now include > phpMAJOR.MINOR in the name, so f.e. php5-fpm is now p

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 09:51:18PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Adam Borowski (2016-04-08 21:05:23) > > On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:49:38PM -0400, Harlan Lieberman-Berg wrote: > >> [1]: I say default here, but really, systems which turn off > >> installing things which are Recommended a

Bug#820490: ITP: streflop -- STandalone REproducible FLOating-Point library

2016-04-08 Thread Kip Warner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kip Warner * Package name: streflop Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Nicolas Brodu * URL : http://nicolas.brodu.net/en/programmation/streflop/ * License : LGPL-2.1 Programming Lang: C++ Description : ITP: streflop

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Wookey
+++ Josh Triplett [2016-04-08 10:31 -0700]: > I wonder if debian-policy section 12 should talk about the desired > package relationship between and -doc? The world has changed since the policy was originally written. I do like to have -doc package for most things installed and find it very annoy

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Josh Triplett
Wookey wrote: > +++ Josh Triplett [2016-04-08 10:31 -0700]: > > I wonder if debian-policy section 12 should talk about the desired > > package relationship between and -doc? > > The world has changed since the policy was originally written. I do > like to have -doc package for most things instal

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Adam Borowski writes: > Like: > xfce4-power-manager -> upower -> libimobiledevice4 -> usbmuxd > Is the recommendation from libimobiledevice4 to usbmuxd valid? Sure it is > -- the library is useless without the daemon. > Is the dependency from upower to libimobiledevice4 valid? It is -- using

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Josh Triplett writes: > Wookey wrote: >> +++ Josh Triplett [2016-04-08 10:31 -0700]: >>> For instance, >>> "If is a build tool, command-line tool, or library, >>> already provides documentation in man, info, or text format, and >>> -doc provides HTML or other formats, should have a >>> 'Sugge

Re: PHP 5 to PHP 7.0 transition and change of PHP packaging to allow coinstallable versions

2016-04-08 Thread Ondřej Surý
You mean like the list in NEWS.Debian? php7.0 (7.0.3-6) unstable; urgency=medium * Several extensions have been split into separate extension packages: - php-dba - Database (dbm-style) Abstraction Layer - php-mbstring - Multibyte String - php-soap - SOAP - php-xml - DOM, SimpleXML,