Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Paul Wise schrieb: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: > >> I, myself, find our DFSG-freeness pickiness going too far, and I'm sick >> of this icon thing. So, here's what I'm going to do: unless I hear >> non-IANAL objection until the next upstream release due on august 11 >> (an

Bug#792660: ITP: cups-x2go -- Virtual X2Go printer for CUPS

2015-07-17 Thread Mike Gabriel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel * Package name: cups-x2go Version : 3.0.1.3 Upstream Author : Oleksandr Shneyder * URL : http://wiki.x2go.org * License : GPL Programming Lang: Perl Description : Virtual X2Go printer for CUPS X2Go

Huge data files in Debian

2015-07-17 Thread Ole Streicher
Hi all, again a question where I find it difficult to put it into one single box. However, please reply to debian-science. I am trying to get the package "astrometry.net" into Debian. This package exists for Ubuntu [1], but (with some minor changes) could be uploaded to Debian as well. I already

Bug#792664: ITP: ori -- secure distributed file system

2015-07-17 Thread Afif Elghraoui
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Afif Elghraoui X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: ori Version : 0.8.1 Upstream Author : Stanford University * URL : http://ori.scs.stanford.edu/ * License : ori (MIT-like) Programming Lang: C+

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 02:38:12PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > I, myself, find our DFSG-freeness pickiness going too far, and I'm sick > > of this icon thing. So, here's what I'm going to do: unless I hear > > non-IANAL objection until the ne

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Adrien CLERC
Le 17/07/2015 12:57, Mike Hommey a écrit : > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 02:38:12PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: >> >>> I, myself, find our DFSG-freeness pickiness going too far, and I'm sick >>> of this icon thing. So, here's what I'm going to do: unle

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Zlatan Todoric
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/17/2015 12:57 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 02:38:12PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: >> >>> I, myself, find our DFSG-freeness pickiness going too far, and >>> I'm sick of th

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ian Jackson chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: >For example, in this case, it would be technically possible for >(say) Google (or someone masquerading as Google) to change the icon >offered to Debian's Iceweasel to one which looks very like >Wikipedia's icon. FWIW, there are DuckDuc

Bug#792680: ITP: flask-flatpages -- Provides flat static pages to a Flask application.

2015-07-17 Thread Orestis Ioannou
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: flask-flatpages Version: 0.6 Upstream Author: SimonSapin , playpauseandstop URL: https://github.com/SimonSapin/Flask-FlatPages/ License: BSD-3 Programming Lang: Python De

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ian Jackson chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: > The problem is simply that the icons are non-DFSG-free. You could make a screenshot from where the original icons are shown, then re-encode those tiny 16x16px thingies into new *.ico files with GIMP. This is sorta like taking a photograph (if in doub

Re: Debian books (Was: Bits from the DPL - July)

2015-07-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, Excuse my umbiguous statements. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 02:26:30PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > But that section can be split in to 2 sentions. FREE and NON-FREE, > > with FREE on the top. > > It is already split into sections by langu

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Adam Borowski angband.pl> writes: > Note that while requestpolicycontinued is capable to do everything original > requestpolicy did, in its default mode it's just a poor ad blocker, The new xul-ext-requestpolicy is a severe regression from the old one: • it defaults to all permitted • it fails

Bug#792683: RFP: geronimo-interceptor-1.1-spec -- Geronimo API implementation of the Interceptor 1.1 spec

2015-07-17 Thread Bas Couwenberg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: geronimo-interceptor-1.1-spec Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Apache Geronimo Developers * URL : http://geronimo.apache.org * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Java Description : Geronimo API impleme

Bug#792686: RFP: geronimo-atinject-1.0-spec -- Geronimo API implementation of the AtInject 1.0 spec

2015-07-17 Thread Bas Couwenberg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: geronimo-atinject-1.0-spec Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Apache Geronimo Developers * URL : http://geronimo.apache.org * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Java Description : Geronimo API implementa

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Adrien CLERC
Le 17/07/2015 15:09, Thorsten Glaser a écrit : > OK, wrong place to complain about RequestPolicy, admittedly. > It’s just that it’s the only actually effective ad blocker, > for use by me when lynx, my default webbrowser, isn’t enough. > > Maybe you should try the "I am an advanced user" of uBlock

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Adrien CLERC wrote: > Maybe you should try the "I am an advanced user" of uBlock (or uBlock > Origin, it's up to you). It replaces AdblockPlus and RequestPolicy in a > much more efficient UI for me. More complex also… Hm, but, tbh, I’m not. I absolutely hate Firef*x but there

Bug#792690: RFP: geronimo-jcache-1.0-spec -- Geronimo API implementation of the JCache 1.0 spec

2015-07-17 Thread Bas Couwenberg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: geronimo-jcache-1.0-spec Version : 1.0~alpha1 Upstream Author : Apache Geronimo Developers * URL : http://geronimo.apache.org * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Java Description : Geronimo API imple

Replacement Default Icons for Iceweasel [was Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality]

2015-07-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, Don Armstrong wrote: > This is why I said "if they're necessary, then they're necessary". Here's a set of default icons which can trivially be expanded to avoid shipping those icons and downloading them: for icon in ebay google wikipedia bing; do convert -size 16x16 xc:

Bug#792691: RFP: geronimo-jcdi-1.0-spec -- Geronimo API implementation of the JCDI 1.0 spec

2015-07-17 Thread Bas Couwenberg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: geronimo-jcdi-1.0-spec Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Apache Geronimo Developers * URL : http://geronimo.apache.org * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Java Description : Geronimo API implementation

Re: Packaging certain libraries as "end-user software"

2015-07-17 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, On 07/09/2015 06:39 PM, Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 05:26:32PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >> I'm wondering about the shared library packaging requirements in Policy >> for the special case of scientific libraries that are not intended to be >> used by applications, but are

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2015-07-17 at 19:57 +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > Would you dare say this is useful? > http://i.imgur.com/duKHZKF.png I agree that isn't very useful. I don't actually use the search bar as you can't[1] have multiple instances of it so I hadn't seen current versions of it but I did see that

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 07/16/2015 01:00 AM, Ben Finney wrote: Bas Wijnen writes: The "problem" that nobody mentioned it may be caused by the fact that nobody really considers those icons non-free, The copyright holder of those icons does not, AFAIK, grant restricted license for recipients to modify and redistri

Re: Huge data files in Debian

2015-07-17 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Ole Streicher wrote: > Hi all, > again a question where I find it difficult to put it into one single > box. However, please reply to debian-science. > I am trying to get the package "astrometry.net" into Debian. This > package exists for Ubuntu [1], but (with some minor ch

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jul 17 2015, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 02:38:12PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: >> >> > I, myself, find our DFSG-freeness pickiness going too far, and I'm sick >> > of this icon thing. So, here's what I'm going to do: unless I

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > They're certainly necessary. W/o the icons there would be no indication > which search engine is currently selected in the Iceweasel search box. The Tor Browser has the name of the search engine in the search box in grey when no text has

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > You could make a screenshot from where the original icons are shown, > then re-encode those tiny 16x16px thingies into new *.ico files with > GIMP. This is sorta like taking a photograph (if in doubt, take an > actual photo), or a bitmap fo

Proposed MBF: rcS init scripts with no equivalent systemd service file

2015-07-17 Thread Felipe Sateler
Hi all, I'd like to file bugs (severity: important) on packages that ship an init script that installs into runlevel S, but do not provide a systemd service for it. I plan to use the init-rcs-service [usertag] to record all filed bugs. === BEGIN TEMPLATE === Hi, Your package has an initscript t

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 08:00:52AM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > On Jul 15 2015, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > As Jakub was saying: just starting it up without even visiting a site yet > > will > > do a POST and a *few dozen* GET requests. Shouldn't it be waiting with its > > checks until it actually kn

Re: Huge data files in Debian

2015-07-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 12:03:36PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > Going to debconf15? may be we could have a BoF or just a lunch chat to > discuss this eye-to-eye? ;) +1 Would you register a large data set BoF in Summit? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUB

Re: Packaging certain libraries as "end-user software"

2015-07-17 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2015-07-17, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > So, I still plan to drop the extra library packages and just move the > shared library to libdune-*-dev. I'd suggest you set it up with shlibs that ensures that packages built against these libraries aren't installable in the archive. /Sune -- To UNSUB

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Philip Hands
Paul Wise writes: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > >> They're certainly necessary. W/o the icons there would be no indication >> which search engine is currently selected in the Iceweasel search box. > > The Tor Browser has the name of the search engine in the search

Re: Huge data files in Debian

2015-07-17 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Ole Streicher , 2015-07-17, 10:34: But: These packages sum up to ~25 GB, with the maximal package size of 3.5 GB. Well, that's a lot. Just as data points: * The biggest binary package currently in the archive, ns3-doc_3.17+dfsg-1_all.deb, is only ~1GB. * The biggest source package, nvidia

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jul 18 2015, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 08:00:52AM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> On Jul 15 2015, Bas Wijnen wrote: >> > As Jakub was saying: just starting it up without even visiting a site yet >> > will >> > do a POST and a *few dozen* GET requests. Shouldn't it be wa

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 12:57:41AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > > You could make a screenshot from where the original icons are shown, > > then re-encode those tiny 16x16px thingies into new *.ico files with > > GIMP. This is sorta like taki

Re: Huge data files in Debian

2015-07-17 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Going to debconf15? may be we could have a BoF or just a lunch chat to > > discuss this eye-to-eye? ;) > +1 > Would you register a large data set BoF in Summit? something like https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/333/bof-big-data-packages/ ?

Bug#792751: ITP: e2fslibs1.41-dev -- legacy ext2/ext3/ext4 file system development libraries

2015-07-17 Thread Milan Kupcevic
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Milan Kupcevic Control: affects -1 yaboot * Package name: e2fslibs1.41-dev Version : 1.41.14 Upstream Author : Theodore Y. Ts'o * URL : http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net * License : GPL, LGPL, BSD, MIT/X Programming Lan

Re: Huge data files in Debian

2015-07-17 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2015-07-17 at 12:03:36 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Ole Streicher wrote: > > But: These packages sum up to ~25 GB, with the maximal package size of > > 3.5 GB. What is the best way to deal with them? Loosely following the > > discussion about the Icedove icon

Re: Debian books (Was: Bits from the DPL - July)

2015-07-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > I meant by "put it on our web pages" as contents of the document are > available on www.debian.org. Raphaël and Roland's free work is on > www.debian.org which means it is mirrored for easy access. If martin's > work becomes free, we can do th

Re: Huge data files in Debian

2015-07-17 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 09:38:06PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Ole Streicher , 2015-07-17, 10:34: > >But: These packages sum up to ~25 GB, with the maximal package > >size of 3.5 GB. > > Well, that's a lot. Just as data points: > > * The biggest binary package currently in the archive, > ns3-doc

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:26 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: > Screenshots of games during play are not the same as logos. Are you saying that screenshots of logos aren't derivative works of those logos? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@l

Re: The Spirit of Free Software, or The Reality

2015-07-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 3:22 AM, Philip Hands wrote: > Have you considered that by removing the logos there are almost > certainly people who will be less able to recognise which search engine > they have selected? (be that because of poor sight, poor reading > ability or perhaps because they onl

Re: Huge data files in Debian

2015-07-17 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015, Guillem Jover wrote: > > The "ultimate" solution we are aiming for (see http://datalad.org for more > > information) is to utilize git-annex and "ship" either mere pointers to > > git-annex sources or lean (without data) git-annex repositories which > > fetch data from origin

Bug#792756: ITP: r-cran-r.utils -- GNU R various programming utilities

2015-07-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-cran-r.utils Version : 2.1.0-1 Upstream Author : Henrik Bengtsson * URL : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/R.utils/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: R Description : GNU R v

Re: Huge data files in Debian

2015-07-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Yarislav, On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 09:58:32PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > > +1 > > Would you register a large data set BoF in Summit? > > something like > https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/333/bof-big-data-packages/ Yes. > ? not sure if I would actually like to be "The S