Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-19 Thread Brian May
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 at 18:01 Neil Williams wrote: > The github pull request is just a nice UI over a patch. What on earth > is wrong with that? > Unfortunately, github pull requests have limitations compared with patches, archived for example on a mailing list. For blog post on this see: https

Re: Bits from the dpkg project: 1.17.x series, general news

2015-04-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Guillem Jover (2015-04-18): > General News > > > * Raphaël Hertzog has stepped down as maintainer. It seems a little sad there's not even a thanks or two, so here it is: Thanks so much for all the hard (and not only technical) work, Raphaël! Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description:

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 19 avril 2015 07:34 GMT, Brian May  : > Unfortunately, github pull requests have limitations compared with > patches, archived for example on a mailing list. For blog post on this > see: > > https://julien.danjou.info/blog/2013/rant-about-github-pull-request-workflow-implementation > > IIRC, my

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-19 Thread Brian May
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 at 18:25 Vincent Bernat wrote: > This is not the case anymore. Deleting a branch leaves the pull request > as is. Also, editing commits leave the history of the pull request in > the timeline. Comments on edited commits are also still accessible. > Oh, if that is the case tha

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 17 April 2015 at 18:13, Russ Allbery wrote: > Marc Haber writes: > >> Thankfully, git is by far the best VCS on the market and the vast >> majority of people seem to agree. But imagine the outcry if ten years >> ago Sourceforge had said "our VCS is svn and we don't support anything >> else". >

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Williams writes: > On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 > Ben Finney wrote: > > > GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can only > > work between repositories hosted inside the GitHub silo, and any > > project using that feature is thereby locking its workflow to the > >

Re: GitHub “pull request” is proprietary, incompatible with Git ‘request-pull’ (was: debian github organization ?)

2015-04-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:13:32PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > To those of you who are willing to use github for Debian related > things, it would be great if you could: > > Mirror the repositories to alioth so Debian has a backup. I'd rather see it the other way around: advertise the alioth Git re

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 18 April 2015 at 08:03, Ben Finney wrote: > Paul Tagliamonte writes: > >> So, yes, it's nonfree. Yes, it's controlled by DDs. No, I don't think >> this should be the Vcs-Git: target. No, I don't think we should >> endorse GitHub. Yes, we need free tools. Yes, we should contribute to >> the F/O

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 19 April 2015 at 21:00, Ben Finney wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > >> On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 >> Ben Finney wrote: >> >> > GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can only >> > work between repositories hosted inside the GitHub silo, and any >> > project using t

linking perl statically against libperl

2015-04-19 Thread Niko Tyni
Hi, I'd like to start linking /usr/bin/perl statically against libperl on all architectures instead of just on *i386 like now. See #781476 for some more details. I'm looking for input on this. Pros: A we can treat all architectures the same way -> simpler packaging B slightly improved per

Re: Bits from the dpkg project: 1.17.x series, general news

2015-04-19 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le dimanche, 19 avril 2015, 10.25:11 Cyril Brulebois a écrit : > Thanks so much for all the hard (and not only technical) work, > Raphaël! Indeed, thank you buxy! OdyX signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Bits from the dpkg project: 1.17.x series, general news

2015-04-19 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hallo, * Guillem Jover [Sat, Apr 18 2015, 09:27:26PM]: > * Add support for versioned Provides [!]: > - Packages can provide a specific version, “virtual (= 1.0)” which will > be honored, previously it would just be accepted when parsing. That's great news! This will make a lot of evil kludg

Re: linking perl statically against libperl

2015-04-19 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, Niko Tyni wrote: > Cons: > E increased memory usage on systems running multiple perl processes > F possibly increased startup time for short perl scripts > (but that may be a non-issue due to caching anyway?) This sounds rather concerning to me. The again, I've never noticed any

Re: MBF: build Python 3 modules for packages that support it upstream

2015-04-19 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 15:47:16 -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 06:50:11PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > I'll curate the raw run I did today, since I saw a few false positive > > (python 3 backports to python 3) and file them. I'll run a dd-list at > > some point bef

Re: dose3 support for versioned provides (was: Re: Bits from the dpkg project: 1.17.x series, general news)

2015-04-19 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Samstag, den 18.04.2015, 23:54 +0200 schrieb Johannes Schauer: > for source packages that require versioned virtual packages, dose3 support for > this is needed because otherwise the affected source packages will remain > bd-uninstallable. But right now dose3 can only parse versioned provi

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 19 avril 2015 08:55 GMT, Brian May  : > I suspect not many people know about this however (did I miss an > announcement from github on this?), and I suspect it may not be > possible to make changes to the pull request without write access to > the branch. Yes, that's not possible. > Unlike wi

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 19 avril 2015 19:00 +1000, Ben Finney  : >> The pull request exists on github, fine. > > How can a collaborator Alice, with no GitHub account, get the pull > request? Take a random PR: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/pull/16258 Append ".patch" to get the patch: curl https://github.com/twb

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:00:33 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > > > On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 > > Ben Finney wrote: > > > > > GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can > > > only work between repositories hosted inside the GitHub silo, and > > > any

Re: [py3porters-devel] MBF: build Python 3 modules for packages that support it upstream

2015-04-19 Thread Sandro Tosi
basemap uploaded to experimental, waiting for NEW https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/basemap_1.0.7%2Bdfsg-2.html Cheers, Sandro On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 06:50:11PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >> Severity will be wishlist. Target

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 21:12:57 +1200 Robert Collins wrote: > On 18 April 2015 at 08:03, Ben Finney > wrote: > > Paul Tagliamonte writes: > > > >> So, yes, it's nonfree. Yes, it's controlled by DDs. No, I don't > >> think this should be the Vcs-Git: target. No, I don't think we > >> should endorse

Re: Work-needing packages report for Mar 27, 2015

2015-04-19 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 03:02:40PM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 31.03.2015, 12:34 +0200 schrieb Jeroen Dekkers: > > > Dropping packages that need help from the help-wanted list doesn't > > solve any problem, it only hides problems and makes it even less > > likely that packag

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Neil Williams writes: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:00:33 +1000 > Ben Finney wrote: > > > How can a collaborator Alice, with no GitHub account, get the pull > > request? > > Public github repositories do not need a github account to clone. This is quite frustrating. There's some serious equivocating

Re: Bits from the dpkg project: 1.17.x series, general news

2015-04-19 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le dimanche 19 avril 2015, 12:25:28 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit : > Le dimanche, 19 avril 2015, 10.25:11 Cyril Brulebois a écrit : > > Thanks so much for all the hard (and not only technical) work, > > Raphaël! > > Indeed, thank you buxy! > > OdyX +1. Thanks a lot Raphaël. Cheers, Thomas sig

Re: Bits from the dpkg project: 1.17.x series, general news

2015-04-19 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
*Thanks* :) -- “I don’t think security can solve problems. We need to teach greater respect.” Oslo Mayor Stang when asked whether Oslo needs greater security after the attacks in Norway, 07/2011. Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 20 avril 2015 00:18 +1000, Ben Finney  : > Likewise, as an external party Alice can collaborate via ‘git > send-email’ or ‘git request-pull’ on an equal footing with any other > repo (including GitHub repos). But Bob, having chosen GitHub's > proprietary pull requests as an essential part of hi

Re: Experimental ddeb support in debhelper and lintian (Was: Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?)

2015-04-19 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 10:54:09AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > The resulting debs are installable with dpkg -i ( \o/ ). I have not > tried anything fancy like setting up a local APT mirror and tried to > convince APT do install it. I did and apt works with ddeb just fine, meaning it can happily

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney writes: > We're told that GitHub has a raft of features that make it superior, > until it's pointed out that those features are GitHub-specific and > incompatible with collaborators from outside; then, conveniently, the > specialness of those features dwindles to insignificance because

Re: GitHub “pull request” is proprietary, incompatible with Git ‘request-pull’

2015-04-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:13:32PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> To those of you who are willing to use github for Debian related >> things, it would be great if you could: >> Mirror the repositories to alioth so Debian has a backup. > I'd rather see it the other way a

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread James McCoy
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:27:01AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > The repositories and Git management are the very nice features of GitHub, > and there's nothing there data-wise you can't pretty trivially extract. > It's just a very nice UI. In fact, joeyh wrote a nice tool[0] that will extract all

Re: MBF: build Python 3 modules for packages that support it upstream

2015-04-19 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 02:41:47PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > You might want to give people more than 24 hours to comment. A week > seems like the bare minimum to me. > > Cheers, > Julien Euch, sorry, I filed them this morning, but it was only like 40 or so packages, a chunk of which are DPM

Re: Debian Installer Jessie RC 3 release

2015-04-19 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sun Apr 19, 2015 at 16:25:30 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Improvements in this release of the installer > = > > * apt-setup: > - Stop enabling backports by default (#764982). (i have read the BR) I consider this this 'last minute' chan

Bug#782968: ITP: libmuscle -- multiple alignment library for protein sequences

2015-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: libmuscle Version : 3.7 Upstream Author : Aaron Darling * URL : http://sourceforge.net/p/mauve/code/HEAD/tree/muscle/ * License : Public domain Programming Lang: C++ Description : mu

Bug#782969: ITP: libmems -- library to support DNA string matching and comparative genomics

2015-04-19 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: libmems Version : 1.6 Upstream Author : Aaron Darling * URL : http://sourceforge.net/p/mauve/code/HEAD/tree/libMems/trunk/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : library

Bug#782970: ITP: pysimplesoap -- Python simple and lightweight SOAP Library

2015-04-19 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jörg Frings-Fürst" * Package name: pysimplesoap Version : 1.16 Upstream Author : Mariano Reingart * URL : http://code.google.com/p/pysimplesoap * License : LGPL-3.0 Programming Lang: Python Description : Python

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 April 2015 at 02:18, Ben Finney wrote: > Robert Collins writes: > >> Have you used github? If not you should: the best position to critique >> a system from is one of familiarity. > > If I were to critique only the effects GitHub has for the individual who > uses it, that would be a valid p

Debian Archive architecture removals

2015-04-19 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi, As the jessie release approaches, the ftp-team have been reviewing the status of the architectures in unstable. Neither sparc nor hurd-i386 are going to release with jessie and we are therefore looking at their future in unstable. SPARC = https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bu

Re: Bits from the dpkg project: 1.17.x series, general news

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Cyril Brulebois writes: > Guillem Jover (2015-04-18): > > General News > > > > > > * Raphaël Hertzog has stepped down as maintainer. > > It seems a little sad there's not even a thanks or two, so here it is: > Thanks so much for all the hard (and not only technical) work, > Raphaël

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Brian May
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 at 00:19 Ben Finney wrote: > This is quite frustrating. There's some serious equivocating by GitHub > apologists in this discussion: It GitHub better then the open source GitLab? If the answer is Yes, is there any obstacles to trying to improve GitLab so it does what we wan

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery writes: > It's a UI. The UI is really nice. That's why people use it. But > lock-in implies more than a really nice UI that people use because > it's superior. By lock-in I'm implying vendor lock-in: the customer or user is unable to switch away from the vendor's service without sig

Re: Experimental ddeb support in debhelper and lintian (Was: Re: -dbg packages; are they actually useful?)

2015-04-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:10 AM, David Kalnischkies wrote: > I would presume most derivatives aren't using it either Most derivatives appear to use reprepro but there is one using apt-ftparchive https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/CensusFull https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census/Lihuen >

Re: GitHub “pull request” is proprietary, incompatible with Git ‘request-pull’

2015-04-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli writes: >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:13:32PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > I mirror the repositories on my own publicly-accessible Git server. > Hopefully that's good enough. :) If those are Debian related, I'd still suggest m

Bug#782749: general: All browsers except Links2 crash constantly and iceweasel is broken

2015-04-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, 2015-04-19 at 11:20 -0600, D. Charles Pyle wrote: > My machine is a Sparc64 machine. ... > if I can help, I can try to do so. An update: sparc will be removed from the Debian archive unless a team of people is willing to work on the port and bring it back in shape: https://lists.debian.o