Bug#760734: general: no sounds on headphones

2014-09-08 Thread Marcin Kulisz
On 2014-09-07 18:35:55, quang wrote: > Package: general > Severity: normal > > Dear Maintainer, > > Recently I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie only to find a very annoying bug. > There is no sound on headphones, however the speakers still work fine. I > googled for answered (purge pulseaudio, dele

Re: python-openssl unavailable in sid

2014-09-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 09:57:36 +1000, Brian May wrote: > As far as I can tell, this problem has been fixed. ftp-master didn't > respond, maybe it come good by itself? No, they fixed it last week. Cheers, Julien -- Julien Cristau Logilab http://www.logilab.fr/ Informa

Bug#760824: ITP: python-pysaml2 -- SAML Version 2 to be used in a WSGI environment

2014-09-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-pysaml2 Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Roland Hedberg * URL : https://github.com/rohe/pysaml2 * License : BSD-2-clause Programming Lang: Python Description : SAML Version

Re: Bug#760745: ITP: cleo -- Play back shell commands for live demonstrations

2014-09-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, Axel Beckert wrote: > cleo is a utility for playing back pre-recorded shell commands in a > live demonstration. cleo displays the commands as if you had actually > typed them and then executes them interactively. Will it run them anew, or just display the output from the first

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Adam Borowski wrote: > Noel Torres writes: > > So, in your POV, forcing millions of sysadmins out there to take extra pain to > > keep their systems running as they expect is the way to go? > > I think it's fair to expect the few hundred people[1] that wa

Re: Bug#760745: ITP: cleo -- Play back shell commands for live demonstrations

2014-09-08 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, Axel Beckert wrote: > > cleo is a utility for playing back pre-recorded shell commands in a > > live demonstration. cleo displays the commands as if you had actually > > typed them and then executes them interactively. > > Will it run them anew, or

Bug#760734: marked as done (general: no sounds on headphones)

2014-09-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Mon, 8 Sep 2014 11:13:56 +0200 with message-id <201409081113.58841.hol...@layer-acht.org> and subject line Re: Bug#760734: general: no sounds on headphones has caused the Debian Bug report #760734, regarding general: no sounds on headphones to be marked as done. This means that

Re: rename source package

2014-09-08 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 06/09/2014 22:22, Jerome BENOIT a écrit : > Hello List, > > I filled an ITA for guava [1]. Because it is rather a GAP package then a > stand alone software, > it would make more sense to rename it gap-guava: how can I rename its source > from guava to gap-guava ? > Note that the deb ball asso

Bug#760615: general: Shell scripts do not execute in gui.

2014-09-08 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Tomas Pospisek , 2014-09-06, 21:06: Open a terminal and in the terminal write the following: cd /tmp echo "#!/bin/sh" > foobar echo "touch foobar.touched" >> foobar chmod +x foobar This is not a secure way to use /tmp. -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-req

Bug#760829: ITP: fasterxml-oss-parent -- FasterXML.com parent pom

2014-09-08 Thread Timo Aaltonen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Timo Aaltonen * Package name: fasterxml-oss-parent Version : 16 Upstream Author : Tatu Saloranta * URL : http://github.com/FasterXML/ * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang: Java Description : FasterXML.com paren

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-08 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Josselin Mouette , 2014-09-08, 10:58: Excuse me? Are you trying to use the fact that you and your stupid friends are trolling about systemd all day long in order to justify your own rants? And I thought you couldn’t get any lower. You have a very good shovel. OTOH, a hydraulic excavator mu

Bug#760834: ITP: jackson-parent -- Jackson parent pom

2014-09-08 Thread Timo Aaltonen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Timo Aaltonen * Package name: jackson-parent Version : 2.4.1 Upstream Author : Tatu Saloranta * URL : https://github.com/FasterXML/jackson-parent * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang: Java Description : Jackson

Re: systemd, again

2014-09-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 02:02:33PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > On the other hand, a non-GNOME wheezy user SHALL not > be upgraded to systemd, true. That is contadicted by: https://lists.debian.org/20140907151102.go21...@smurf.noris.de -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have yo

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-08 Thread Ralf Jung
Hi, > At this point > the only viable option is to uncheck everything, install as a bare base > system and then deal with package inclusion post-install reboot. This is also my experience. It's also something I repeatedly had to explain to friends installing Debian, who had false expectations bas

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-08 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/08/2014 at 02:05 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 11:12:01PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > >> Surely, it should be an OPT-IN choice, not an OPT-OUT one? I'm >> talking upgrades here, not new installs. > > I have no clue

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On 08/09/14 12:45, Ralf Jung wrote: > I tried to find out what tools are pulled > in by "standard system utilities", but couldn't find the package in > aptitute. The other tasks are packages (e.g. task-gnome-desktop), but task-standard is special and does not exist as a package. Instead, it contai

Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing

2014-09-08 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 23:45:12 David Weinehall escribió: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:37:12PM -0700, Cameron Norman wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Noel Torres wrote: > > >> So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise (for the user) >

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-09-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 08/26/2014 06:37 PM, Mike Gabriel wrote: > For rebasing debian/patches/*.patch against new upstream releases, I > simply copy my tarball into the packaging Git, rebase the patches, > remove upstream sources again and commit the patches. This is exactly why it's preferable to have upstream sourc

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-08 Thread Noel Torres
On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 16:11:02 Matthias Urlichs escribió: > Hi, > > Chris Bannister: > > > If technically feasible, that would be a far better safety net (just > > > tell people to boot with init=/sbin/sysvinit if they run into a > > > problem) than an "oh dear, it's so dangerous that

choice of a default option do not tell if preferred in any case

2014-09-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting David Weinehall (2014-09-08 00:45:12) > Most Debian systems aren't using sysvinit by active choice, but > because it was the default when they installed their machines, so this > argument doesn't really make sense. We have no way of knowing how many of our users would have chosen "I wan

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On 08/09/14 14:44, Noel Torres wrote: > Example: having EMC Networker server softare for backups in a sysvinit > machine > is (relatively) easy, because the scripts for starting and stopping the > services are (quite) standard (but very complicated) sysv scripts. systemd is compatible with LSB

upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-08 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 08/09/2014 15:27, Noel Torres wrote: > On Sunday, 7 de September de 2014 23:45:12 David Weinehall escribió: >> On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:37:12PM -0700, Cameron Norman wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Noel Torres wrote: > So we are clearly failing to f

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
Opening a new thread, trying to sum-up what's been said. It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and there's no obvious way to know what will happen (other than looking at the package source of tasksel

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/08/2014 07:45 PM, Ralf Jung wrote: > They are often surprised to find Exim on their > system just because they checked "standard system utilities" Well, not only a mail server: Package: task-mail-server Architecture: all Description: mail server This task selects a variety of packages usef

Bug#760862: ITP: python-jingo -- adapter for using Jinja2 templates with Django

2014-09-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-jingo Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : James Socol * URL : https://github.com/jbalogh/jingo * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Python Description : adapter for using J

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-08 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Vincent Danjean: > If I recall correctly, when Debian switched the default MTA, upgrades > did not change the already installed. You cannot have an MTA without configuring it, and nobody even tried to implement auto-migration of the old default mailer's configuration to the new one. Also, we

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > Ok, so let's quantify the view of sysadmins somehow. This is a complete waste of time and I expect better of you in particular. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there?

2014-09-08 Thread Ralf Jung
Hi, >> Having separate tasks for mail and NFS servers, would IMHO be a good >> step in the right direction. > > Yes. Though the design idea behind tasksel is to have generic "theme" > and not technical words which a user wont understand. (note: it's not > that I agree (or not) with this design ch

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Ralf Jung
Hi, > So, with what you're proposing, we'll have something like this: > >│[*] Desktop environment │ >│[*] ... Xfce│ >│[ ] ... GNOME │ >│[ ] ... KDE

Bug#760866: ITP: python-coffin -- Jinja2 adapter for Django

2014-09-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-coffin Version : 0.3.8 Upstream Author : Michael Elsdoerfer * URL : http://github.com/coffin/coffin * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Python Description : Jinja2 ada

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Rebecca Palmer
Someone already proposed, in the wiki, to add "Games". I like the idea a lot, and it perfectly makes sense to select all games at once. You might want to check the download size it would have first: some game data packages are _big_ (~1GB for flightgear, ~400MB each for openarena and wesnoth, ~7

Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)

2014-09-08 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 09:39:05AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Note also that a few of those things (udev, adduser, and > libdevmapper1.02.1 for example) are likely to be on any non-chroot system > already since they're either dependencies of other things (such as grub > for libdevmapper1.02.1) or

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 08, Ralf Jung wrote: > I agree, this is a great improvement. I wonder though whether it is > justified to add SSH again? It is of course just a single package being > dragged in, but it is "special" in the sense that it's often used to > provide the very access to the machine. Installing S

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Open Source
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Agreed. It is very useful to have a working sshd on a new system > without having to use the console again to install it. This sounds like an acceptable default for a server installation, but for desktops maybe not so much. Is it possible to

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-08 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 08/09/2014 18:07, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Vincent Danjean: >> If I recall correctly, when Debian switched the default MTA, upgrades >> did not change the already installed. > > You cannot have an MTA without configuring it, and nobody even tried to > implement auto-migration of the o

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-08 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 8 Sep 2014 18:07:18 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: >Vincent Danjean: >> If I recall correctly, when Debian switched the default MTA, upgrades >> did not change the already installed. > >You cannot have an MTA without configuring it, and nobody even tried to >implement auto-migration of the

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Vincent Danjean (2014-09-08 21:37:14) > On 08/09/2014 18:07, Matthias Urlichs wrote: >> Vincent Danjean: >>> If I recall correctly, when Debian switched the default MTA, >>> upgrades did not change the already installed. >> >> You cannot have an MTA without configuring it, and nobody even

Bug#760880: ITP: libpgobject-type-bigfloat-perl -- Math::BigFloat wrappers for PGObject

2014-09-08 Thread RJ Clay
Package: wnpp Owner: Robert James Clay Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libpgobject-type-bigfloat-perl Version : 1.00 Upstream Author : Chris Travers License : BSD-2-clause Description : P

ok to ship vaporware in Debian?

2014-09-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
You have a great piece of software. It is popular, so even included as convenience code copies in other projects. You choose to clean that up and package it separately. ...except it turns out that you cannot compile the code - source exist as ActionScript3 but the free compiler in swftools fa

Re: ok to ship vaporware in Debian?

2014-09-08 Thread Jonathan Dowland
>From reading the bug it's not clear to me whether or not libjs-mediaelement does anything, but IMHO your tone towards the uploader seems unnecessarily bullish and confrontational. In particular [1] strikes me as sacrificing any moral high ground when it comes to BTS ping-pong. [1] https://bugs.de

Bug#760883: ITP: libnet-sftp-sftpserver-perl -- Secure File Transfer Protocol Server

2014-09-08 Thread Mike Gabriel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel * Package name: libnet-sftp-sftpserver-perl Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Simon Day * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~simm/Net-SFTP-SftpServer-1.1.0/lib/Net/SFTP/SftpServer.pm * License : MIT~OldStyle-wit

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-08 Thread Cameron Norman
El lun, 8 de sep 2014 a las 9:07 , Matthias Urlichs escribió: Hi, Vincent Danjean: If I recall correctly, when Debian switched the default MTA, upgrades did not change the already installed. You cannot have an MTA without configuring it, and nobody even tried to implement auto-migration

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Rebecca Palmer wrote: >> Someone already >> proposed, in the wiki, to add "Games". I like the idea a lot, and it >> perfectly makes sense to select all games at once. That was me. We don't yet have a games-all metapackage in the games blend, games-finest is probabl

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced > users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and > there's no obvious way to know what will happen (other than looking at > the package source of

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 09, Paul Wise wrote: > Isn't tasksel for people with no expectations? People who know > something about the technology they are looking for will install the > relevant packages instead of following tasksel recommendations. Tasksel is not about recommendations: its purpose is to easily inst

Re: upgrades must not change the installed init system [was: Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing]

2014-09-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Jonas, On Montag, 8. September 2014, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > I did not file a bugreport about that - where could I? upgrade-reports seems to be the pseudo package you want. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=upgrade-reports :-) cheers, Holger signature.asc Des

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Peter Samuelson
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > - database-server: commonly one would expect MySQL, and postgress gets > > installed [Paul Wise] > Isn't tasksel for people with no expectations? People who know > something about the technology they are looking for will install the > r

Re: systemd, again

2014-09-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 02:02:33PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On the other hand, a non-GNOME wheezy user SHALL not > be upgraded to systemd, true. SHOULD not, but currently is: .--==[ dist-upgrade from a bare wheezy deboostrap ] The following NEW packages will be installed: acl ca-certific

Re: systemd, again

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 09.09.2014 01:37, schrieb Adam Borowski: > This is easily fixable by adding such a dependency, or making things simpler > by dropping the sysvinit-core package at all, returning its contents back to > sysvinit. In fact, this whole split was done in a NMU by a systemd > maintainer, so no wonders

Re: ok to ship vaporware in Debian?

2014-09-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Jonathan Dowland (2014-09-08 22:52:21) > >From reading the bug it's not clear to me whether or not > libjs-mediaelement does anything, but IMHO your tone towards the > uploader seems unnecessarily bullish and confrontational. In > particular [1] strikes me as sacrificing any moral high g

Re: systemd, again

2014-09-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 02:05:52AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 09.09.2014 01:37, schrieb Adam Borowski: > > This is easily fixable by adding such a dependency, or making things simpler > > by dropping the sysvinit-core package at all, returning its contents back to > > sysvinit. In fact, this

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Wise writes: > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> >> It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced >> users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and >> there's no obvious way to know what will happen (other than looking at

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/09/2014 02:45 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 08, Ralf Jung wrote: > >> I agree, this is a great improvement. I wonder though whether it is >> justified to add SSH again? It is of course just a single package being >> dragged in, but it is "special" in the sense that it's often used to >>

Re: More tasks option in Tasksel: what tasks do you want there? (reloaded)

2014-09-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/09/2014 06:21 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> >> It's looking like some of the options are confusing for both advanced >> users and newbies. The technologies behind the tasks are hidden, and >> there's no obvious way to know what will happe

Bug#760906: ITP: speedtest-cli -- test Internet bandwidth from the console

2014-09-08 Thread Luke Faraone
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luke Faraone * Package name: speedtest-cli Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Matt Martz * URL : https://github.com/sivel/speedtest-cli * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Python Description : command-line in

closing 760906

2014-09-08 Thread Luke Faraone
close 760906 thanks Silly me, this is already packaged :) -- Luke Faraone;; Debian & Ubuntu Developer; Sugar Labs, Systems lfaraone on irc.[freenode,oftc].net -- http://luke.faraone.cc PGP fprint: 5189 2A7D 16D0 49BB 046B DC77 9732 5DD8 F9FD D506 signature.asc Description: Digital signature