Re: Deprecating/removing racoon/ipsec-tools from Debian GNU/Linux and racoon from Debian/kfreebsd

2014-04-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Matt Grant > NB: racoon-tool was an effort to provide basic FreeSWAN like > functionality when racoon/setkey where the one true way to use the then > new Linux in kernel IPSEC stack. Openswan and StrongSWAN are descended > from FreeSWAN, thus racoon-tool functionality is 99% fulfilled by usi

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Gergely Nagy
Russ Allbery writes: > Sune Vuorela writes: > >> Part of me wants to have KDE Plasma Desktop as the default workspace, >> because it is completely awesome. > >> Other parts of me is happy that it is not the default because then we >> don't have all sorts of weird wishes about "oh noes. networkma

Bug#743841: ITP: libdist-zilla-plugin-localemsgfmt-perl -- Dist::Zilla plugin to compile PO files with Locale::Msgfmt

2014-04-07 Thread intrigeri
Package: wnpp Owner: intrigeri Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libdist-zilla-plugin-localemsgfmt-perl Version : 1.203 Upstream Author : Patrick Donelan * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Dis

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gergely Nagy (2014-04-07 11:10:27) > Can we have ratpoison + selected things as default DE for Debian Zurg? > Please? Pretty please? With sugar on top? First, create a metapackage, and maintain it. Then when getting popular, file bugreport against tasksel to have it included as alternat

Re: Bug#743669: ITP - gedraa-dsh - Data mine Internet catalogs to find double starts candidates double starts candidates

2014-04-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Control: reassign -1 wnpp Control: severity -1 wishlist On Vi, 04 apr 14, 19:36:25, Victor Di Rienzo wrote: > Package: gedraa-dsh > Status: install ok installed > Priority: standard > Section: Sicence > Maintainer: Victor Di Rienzo > Version: 1.0.0 > Depends: default-jre > Description: Data mine

Re: Bug#743723: ITP - gedraa-duplex - double star observers a tool to make easier a basic astrophysical analysis of both components of a given pair.

2014-04-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Control: reassign -1 wnpp Control: severity -1 wishlist On Sb, 05 apr 14, 12:49:40, Victor Di Rienzo wrote: > Package: gedraa-duplex > Status: install ok installed > Priority: standard > Section: Sicence > Maintainer: Victor Di Rienzo > Version: 1.5.0 > Depends: default-jre > Description: double

Bug#743859: ITP: tcode -- create a Java file from an associated LaTex file

2014-04-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: tcode Version : 0.1.20080917 Upstream Author : Pierre L'Ecuyer * URL : http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~simardr/ssj/ssj-source.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: Java Description : cr

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
My mother is using Debian 6 with Gnome 2. I don’t know if I will ever update this system. Gnome 3 is not a solution, and I’m not interested in teaching XFCE. Shade and sweet water! Stephan There is mate-desktop - http://mate-desktop.org/. and it is partially in Debian as far as I see.

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Iain R. Learmonth dijo [Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 09:47:58AM +0100]: > > So, I suggest we ship a desktop consisting of: > > > > (... minimalist and console-based stuff ...) > > Whilst that is basically my setup, it is definitely not an intuitive one > to use. > > For power users, it likely is better

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Iain R. Learmonth
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 10:59:39AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Iain R. Learmonth dijo [Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 09:47:58AM +0100]: > > > So, I suggest we ship a desktop consisting of: > > > > > > (... minimalist and console-based stuff ...) > > > > If someone wanted to put together a meta-package and

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/06/2014 05:06 AM, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > Personally, I think we should offer a DVD instead of a CD as > primary installation medium. For a desktop use, probably. For server setup, please don't. The CD1 is better than the netinst CD because... it doesn't need network! And I prefer a smaller

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 04/07/2014 07:26 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > For a desktop use, probably. For server setup, please don't. The CD1 is > better than the netinst CD because... it doesn't need network! You deploy your servers from a CD? Don't get me wrong, but installing from CD in an enterprise environment doesn'

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Russ Allbery
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > We use FAI for that. 99% of our servers don't even have a CD drive > anymore, just some of the older ones. And even if you want to install > from CD, most modern servers provide a BMC with keyboard, mouse and > video redirect over the network which also allows

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 04/07/2014 07:39 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Ah, BMC. Now every computer comes with an extra full-fledged computer! > The main computer is for your use, and the other computer is for the use > of the attacker. That's why we block the kvms in our firewall so they cannot be reached from outside

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Russ Allbery
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > On 04/07/2014 07:39 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Ah, BMC. Now every computer comes with an extra full-fledged computer! >> The main computer is for your use, and the other computer is for the >> use of the attacker. > That's why we block the kvms in our firewal

Re: Preparing openjpeg 2.0

2014-04-07 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Mathieu Malaterre , 2014-03-24, 12:38: >> I am preparing to upload openjpeg 2.0. This is a major API (yes API) >> change from previous openjpeg 1.x. > > None of these openjpeg versions seem to use versioned symbols. If you > want to have both in the archive at the same, then

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/08/2014 01:34 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 04/07/2014 07:26 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> For a desktop use, probably. For server setup, please don't. The CD1 is >> better than the netinst CD because... it doesn't need network! > > You deploy your servers from a CD? Don't get me

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 04/07/2014 08:24 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > That's what I'm using yes. Probably you should have read my message up > to its end, where I wrote: "I'm also unsure all my KVM over IPs support > images for DVDs rather than simply CD." No need to be rude about that, ok? I missed that part. Jeez.

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Iain R. Learmonth contributed: > The problem of integration is present, but now that I think about it, is > likely more of an upstream problem than a packaging problem. I guess as > more and more things use dbus, integration will become easier. Perhaps but integration and

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Wookey contributed: > but I just wanted to repoy to correct the > apparent misapprehension that XFCE doesn't do user-friendly monitor out > of the box. It is hardly a showstopper either and I expect xfce-4.10 does and as there has been a long time of testing before 4.10 wa

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 20:55 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Please fix your clock. Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1396896883.30509.12.

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Jakub Wilk
* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz , 2014-04-07, 20:36: No need to be rude about that, ok? “Oho!” said the pot to the kettle; “You are dirty and ugly and black!” -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 04/07/2014 08:58 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * John Paul Adrian Glaubitz , 2014-04-07, > 20:36: >> No need to be rude about that, ok? > > “Oho!” said the pot to the kettle; > “You are dirty and ugly and black!” I wasn't rude in my previous mail, if yes, quote please. -- .''`. John Paul Adrian

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz (2014-04-07): > On 04/07/2014 08:24 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > That's what I'm using yes. Probably you should have read my message > > up to its end, where I wrote: "I'm also unsure all my KVM over IPs > > support images for DVDs rather than simply CD." > > No need to

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 04/07/2014 09:08 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > (Maybe it's just me but calling people “not very professional” is > something I consider very rude; not Thomas' mentioning the fact that > the original text had sufficient context in its single paragraph.) Jeez, I said the method was not professiona

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Adam D. Barratt contributed: > Please fix your clock. > Have you considered relying on your own clock? I use mail receive order. Do you not get spam annoyingly staying at the top of your box? Sorry if your client does not allow that or doesn't support maildir but this is

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Jakub Wilk contributed: > * Gunnar Wolf , 2014-04-04, 23:22: > >- Media player: mplayer (on libcaca, of course) > > With its 4 RC bugs, it doesn't look like mplayer is going to be part of > jessie. > I can't tell, is that sarcasm, I hope so as it is the only player hat

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 10:39 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > > > We use FAI for that. 99% of our servers don't even have a CD drive > > anymore, just some of the older ones. And even if you want to install > > from CD, most modern servers provide a BMC with keyboar

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 08 avril 2014 à 01:26 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit : > For a desktop use, probably. For server setup, please don't. The CD1 is > better than the netinst CD because... it doesn't need network! And I > prefer a smaller thing. I'm also unsure all my KVM over IPs support > images for DVDs rat

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Philip Hands contributed: > As for my grumpy tone, I apologise for that -- it probably comes from > the several voluminous threads on debian-devel recently spouting drivel > about systemd which I may have unfairly associated with this thread. If you think it's all drivel t

Bug#743887: ITP: direnv -- A utility to set directory specific environment variables

2014-04-07 Thread Punit Agrawal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Punit Agrawal * Package name: direnv Version : 2.3.0 Upstream Author : Jonas Pfenniger * URL : http://direnv.net/ * License : MIT Programming Lang: Go Description : A utility to set directory specific environment

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Wookey
+++ Kevin Chadwick [2014-08-27 20:55 +0100]: > It also supports focus follows mouse, no raise on click I had forgotten, but this was the 'killer feature' that originally switched me to XFCE, and to a significant degree keeps me there. So far as I know gnome3, and unity don't support this (by desi

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > That ship sailed long ago. :-/ > > Some BMCs (like recent iDRAC) run Linux which means there may be some > opportunity for an outside project to modify and improve their security. Do you have any references to this? Are these iDRACs compliant

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 09:23 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:22 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > That ship sailed long ago. :-/ > > > > Some BMCs (like recent iDRAC) run Linux which means there may be some > > opportunity for an outside project to modify and improve their security.

Re: Debian default desktop environment

2014-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 09:27:00PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > previously on this list Jakub Wilk contributed: > > > * Gunnar Wolf , 2014-04-04, 23:22: > > >- Media player: mplayer (on libcaca, of course) > > > > With its 4 RC bugs, it doesn't look like mplayer is going to be part of > > jess

Bug#743902: ITP: gkrellm-tz -- This plugin for gkrellm displays current time in several configurable timezones

2014-04-07 Thread Andreas Jimmy Gredler
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Andreas "Jimmy" Gredler" * Package name: gkrellm-tz Version : 0.8 Upstream Author : Jiri Denemark * URL : http://mamuti.net/gkrellm/gkrellm-tz.en.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : This plugi

Re: --> APT's New Version <--

2014-04-07 Thread Игорь Пашев
As for me I'd like to have "source" and "clean" subcommands for apt ;-) (For aptitude too) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CALL-Q8xK-8RoFPcTn8T1FM=o