Re: Non-identical files with identical md5sums on Debian systems?

2013-08-05 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 06:44:49AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Hi all, > > I do occasionally check for identical files on different systems by > comparing their md5sums. So, just out of interest, could someone tell me > (how to find out) how many non-identical files with identical md5sums > t

Re: Non-identical files with identical md5sums on Debian systems?

2013-08-05 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:24:59PM -0700, Vincent Cheng wrote: > On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > > I do occasionally check for identical files on different systems by > > comparing their md5sums. So, just out of interest, could someone tell me > > (how to find out) how ma

Re: Finding correct component for Virtual Box / Debian / screen resolution issue

2013-08-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Doesn't look like something to be run in d-i. As I understand it, isenkram is just a proof of concept of the idea. It also seems to be a reimplementation of discover? > discover already pulls virtualbox bits in. Mentioned not so long ago i

Bug#718769: ITP: clsync -- live sync tool based on inotify, written in GNU C

2013-08-05 Thread Artyom A Anikeev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Artyom A Anikeev * Package name: clsync Version : 0.0 Upstream Author : Dmitry Yu Okunev * URL : https://github.com/xaionaro/clsync * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: C Description : live sync tool based on ino

Re: Non-identical files with identical md5sums on Debian systems?

2013-08-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:21:09PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Fabian Greffrath writes: > > > I do occasionally check for identical files on different systems by > > comparing their md5sums. So, just out of interest, could someone tell me > > (how to find out) how many non-identical files with i

Bug#718775: ITP: clojurehelper -- Helper scripts for packaging Clojure programs

2013-08-05 Thread Eugenio Cano-Manuel Mendoza
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugenio Cano-Manuel Mendoza" * Package name: clojurehelper Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Eugenio Cano-Manuel Mendoza * URL : * http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-clojure/clojurehelper.git * License : MIT Progra

Re: new hashes (SHA512, SHA3) in apt metadata and .changes files?

2013-08-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Ondřej Surý writes ("Re: new hashes (SHA512, SHA3) in apt metadata and .changes files?"): > SHA512 doesn't bring any advantage over SHA256. AIUI SHA-512 is faster than SHA-256 on many processors, and not usually slower on the others. If the hashes are too long, they can be truncated. Ian. --

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Tagliamonte writes ("Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it."): > On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 09:57:35AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > it is the common practice in upstream R packages to store data in binary > > objects. Those objects can be modified with

Re: Non-identical files with identical md5sums on Debian systems?

2013-08-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Non-identical files with identical md5sums on Debian systems?"): > Unless you have a collection of MD5 collision attacks, or have installed a > package that includes a sample MD5 collision, [...] For the sake of sanity of our (still) MD5-based tools, I hope that no-one u

Bug#718791: ITP: mikutter -- Simple, powerful and moeful twitter client

2013-08-05 Thread HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai)" -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: mikutter Version : 0.2.2.1318 Upstream Author : Toshiaki Asai * URL : http://mikutter.hachune.net/ * License : GPL-3, CC-BY-SA-3

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 02:13:15PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > We need to separate these two issues. Aye. IMVHO, this is the same as how we should treat images (I mean, for any data format, not just this one case of a pickled object) - if the image was a photo, clearly the .jpg or .png or whateve

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
Le 5 août 2013 15:42, "Paul Tagliamonte" a écrit : > > On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 02:13:15PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > We need to separate these two issues. > > Aye. > > IMVHO, this is the same as how we should treat images (I mean, for any > data format, not just this one case of a pickled objec

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Bastien ROUCARIES writes ("Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it."): > Le 5 août 2013 15:42, "Paul Tagliamonte" a écrit : > > IMVHO, this is the same as how we should treat images (I mean, for any > > data format, not just this one case of a pickled object)

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-08-05, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > IMVHO, this is the same as how we should treat images (I mean, for any > data format, not just this one case of a pickled object) - if the image > was a photo, clearly the .jpg or .png or whatever we get is the best way > to communicate this data, but if th

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-08-05 14:13:15 +0100 (+0100), Ian Jackson wrote: [...] > The other is the assertion that this particular case involves a > generated data table. If this is the case then the source package > needs to contain the source code which generates the table - and, > really, it should regenerate the

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Jeremy Stanley writes ("Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it."): > No argument on the first, but the second sets a bad precedent if > interpreted strongly. For example I have a program which relies on a > fairly large set of correlative data requiring hours

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote: > What about svg files that are converted into png's and then manually > adjusted? I'd say the "source" is the combination of the SVG files plus the adjusted PNGs. I guess you are thinking of a particular case here? What is the reason for manua

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2013-08-05 16:41:13 +0100 (+0100), Ian Jackson wrote: [...] > There should IMO be a standard way to request a source package to do > from-scratch rebuilds for this kind of thing, for QA purposes. I absolutely agree. If there were a standard make target or envvar for this purpose I would gladly

Re: Finding correct component for Virtual Box / Debian / screen resolution issue

2013-08-05 Thread adrelanos
Paul Wise: >> This question is about Virtual Box / Debian / screen resolution without >> having guest additions installed. > > I see, is there any reason to not do that? Security reasons. It weakens isolation between guest and host. See also [1]. Another reason is, guest additions are every now a

Re: new hashes (SHA512, SHA3) in apt metadata and .changes files?

2013-08-05 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 01:33:24PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > AIUI SHA-512 is faster than SHA-256 on many processors, and not > usually slower on the others. If the hashes are too long, they can be > truncated. Not that, I think it matters, but this got me interested. It appears that in practice

Fwd: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

2013-08-05 Thread Thomas Hood
Sorry I'm a bit late contributing to this discussion. Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > The eventual result[1] was that Debian nowadays ships > /etc/hosts like these per default: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 127.0.1.1 . > > As also described in the Debian reference[2]. That's not entirely accurate.

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ian Jackson > Bastien ROUCARIES writes ("Re: We need a global decision about R data in > binary format, and stick to it."): > > Le 5 août 2013 15:42, "Paul Tagliamonte" a écrit : > > > IMVHO, this is the same as how we should treat images (I mean, for any > > > data format, not just this one

Re: We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013, Ian Jackson wrote: > The other is the assertion that this particular case involves a > generated data table. If this is the case then the source package > needs to contain the source code which generates the table - and, > really, it should regenerate the table during the build

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Joerg and Paul, thank you for your prompt answers and thank for everybody's contribution. I would like to focus my questions on R binary objects that represent data that was not entirely computer-generated (that is, for which the source code can not be summarised by a mathematical formula and

Re: Bug#718791: ITP: mikutter -- Simple, powerful and moeful twitter client

2013-08-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:35:01PM +0900, HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai) wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai)" > > * Package name: mikutter > Version : 0.2.2.1318 > Upstream Author : Toshiaki Asai > * URL : http://mikutter.hachune.

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] We need a global decision about R data in binary format, and stick to it.

2013-08-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 06 Aug 2013, Charles Plessy wrote: > My first question is: to what extent do we need to verify that the > object can be regenerated. > > - The starting point is a source package with a R binary object. > - With this starting point only, it may be impossible to know if it > has a sour

Re: Non-identical files with identical md5sums on Debian systems?

2013-08-05 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 02:15:41PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Non-identical files with identical md5sums on > Debian systems?"): > > Unless you have a collection of MD5 collision attacks, or have installed a > > package that includes a sample MD5 collision, [...] > > Fo

Re: Bug#718791: ITP: mikutter -- Simple, powerful and moeful twitter client

2013-08-05 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 11:59:29AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:35:01PM +0900, HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai) wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: "HIGUCHI Daisuke (VDR dai)" > > > > * Package name: mikutter > > Version : 0.2.2.1318 > >