On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:43:07PM +0200, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez has written on Saturday, 24 November, at 19:20:
> >FYI, Yet another episode of the Linux init drama:
>
>
> >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions
>
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:48:27PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> https://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2012/11/21/194431
>
> There is a rather bad smell regarding all this.
None of the systemd advocates ever mentioned for example the real
reason why it uses such an ugly configuration s
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Bug #665334 [general] A lot of type 1 fonts include Adobe all right reserved
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Bug 665334 cloned as bug 694308
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Bug #665334 [general] A lot of type 1 fonts include Adobe all right reserved
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Bug r
Hi,
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of adobe
in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
In my local debian box the following package are affected:
gsfonts
gsfonts-x11
lmodern
tex-gyre
xfonts-mathml
At least due to #665334 all fontforge generated fonts are affec
Bastien ROUCARIES writes:
> I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of adobe
> in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
If you report them at this stage of the release cycle and there's no
easy solution I guess wheezy-ignore could be in order?
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Absolutely rediculous.
Prove Adobe did not give up rights by contributing them years ago.
Prove Adobe did not give up rights by ignoring > 7 years.
Prove Adobe did not use these as a way to sell more fonts CD to Linux
users.
* Prove you even have legal say or int
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:09:42AM -0500, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
wrote:
> Absolutely rediculous.
>
> Prove Adobe did not give up rights by contributing them years ago.
> Prove Adobe did not give up rights by ignoring > 7 years.
> Prove Adobe did not use these as a
Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
> Hi,
>
> I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of adobe
> in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
Sure, it's a good idea to delay the release a little bit more, again.
/me sometime secretly hopes that develo
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Bug #694320 [gsfonts] [gsfonts] Fonts include copyrighted adobe fragment all
right reserved
694320 was not blocked by any bugs.
694320 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694320: 694308
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Bug #694321 [gsfonts] [gsfonts] Fonts include copyrighted adobe fragment all
right reserved
694321 was not blocked by any bugs.
694321 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694321: 694308
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:34:34PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> If there is code in a font that has a license attached to it which does
> not meet the DFSG, then it should go out of Debian; not because we're
> not allowed to keep it in Debian by the author of said code, but because
> we don't *w
Processing control commands:
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Bug #694323 [lmodern] [gsfonts] Fonts include copyrighted adobe fragment all
right reserved
694323 was not blocked by any bugs.
694323 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694323: 694308
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Bug #694324 [tex-gyre] Fonts include copyrighted adobe fragment all right
reserved
694324 was not blocked by any bugs.
694324 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694324: 694308
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694324: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.
Processing control commands:
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Bug #694325 [xfonts-mathml] Fonts include copyrighted adobe fragment all right
reserved
694325 was not blocked by any bugs.
694325 was not blocking any bugs.
Added blocking bug(s) of 694325: 694308
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Hi,
First, I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me.
On 11/25/2012 03:35 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:52:47PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 11/25/2012 12:15 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>>> They're constantly claiming, for example, th
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:07:03PM +, Bart Martens wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:34:34PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > If there is code in a font that has a license attached to it which does
> > not meet the DFSG, then it should go out of Debian; not because we're
> > not allowed to k
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:39:58PM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
> > Hi,
> >
> > I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of adobe
> > in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
>
> Sure, it's a good idea to del
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:16:27PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> >> Yes, lots of
> >> udev stuff are moving to /usr, and this is a fact. Yes, lots of
> >> things are annoying in the merge for someone who wishes to use
> >> udev alone, and not systemd. That is a fact as well.
> >
> > There is ton
On 11/25/2012 01:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Why? Why would you want to rip such low-level stuff apart?
Well, isn't it the opposite thing that is happening? "Such low-level
stuff" are being merged (with systemd+udev merge), they were
separated projects before.
So, I'd rather ask you
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:52:58PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 11/25/2012 01:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > Why? Why would you want to rip such low-level stuff apart?
>
> Well, isn't it the opposite thing that is happening? "Such low-level
> stuff" are being merged (with systemd
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:48:27PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > https://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2012/11/21/194431
> >
> > There is a rather bad smell regarding all this.
>
> None of the systemd advocates ever mentioned for
On 11/25/2012 02:19 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I really wish people would stop having this debate.
>
> It is completely pointless for us to argue here over whether or not the
> fork will be successful. The outcome of that argument is completely
> irrelevant to the world: even if we all decide that
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 13:06 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:48:27PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > https://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2012/11/21/194431
> > >
> > > There is a rather bad
On 25/11/2012 23:06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> The:
>
> [crap]
> foo = bar
>
> format for config files is widely despised. And this is not a systemd
> issue, even git uses that crap instead of something better like xml,
> or simpler, like the hierarchical format used by apt that resem
* Adam Borowski [121125 15:20]:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:07:03PM +, Bart Martens wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 02:34:34PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > If there is code in a font that has a license attached to it which does
> > > not meet the DFSG, then it should go out of Debia
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh , 2012-11-25, 13:06:
The:
[crap]
foo = bar
format for config files is widely despised. And this is not a systemd
issue, even git uses that crap instead of something better like xml, or
simpler, like the hierarchical format used by apt that resembles C++
classes
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 23:30:01 +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
> [...] and the hierarchical format
> that apt uses doesn't have a readily-usable parser outside of apt (at
> least not that I know of).
W/o getting into the debate of what format is better or nicer, the
configuration format from which AP
On 11/25/2012 02:39 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
>> Hi,
>>
>> I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of
>> adobe in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
>
> Sure, it's a good idea to delay the release a littl
On 11/25/2012 10:42 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Besides, can you elaborate what is so important in having /usr
> separate? I see that it made sense back on the old Unix workstations
> where you could split partitions across different disks, but I don't
> see the point nowadays where a ch
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 11/25/2012 02:19 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
I really wish people would stop having this debate.
It is completely pointless for us to argue here over whether or not the
fork will be successful. The outcome of that argument is completely
irrelevant to
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 04:48:04PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh , 2012-11-25, 13:06:
> >The:
> >
> >[crap]
> >foo = bar
> >
> >format for config files is widely despised. And this is not a
> >systemd issue, even git uses that crap instead of something better
> >like xml
Quoting Mehdi Dogguy (me...@dogguy.org):
> On 11/25/2012 02:39 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> > Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of
> >> adobe in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts.
> >
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 01:08:31AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
> So please just keep in mind that this is annoying
> some others, and if you don't feel annoyed, just
> live with the fact you aren't alone in this world, and
> that some of us prefer a separated /usr partition.
Based on which tec
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 06:49:45PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 01:08:31AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> >
> > So please just keep in mind that this is annoying
> > some others, and if you don't feel annoyed, just
> > live with the fact you aren't alone in thi
On 11/26/2012 01:49 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Debian dropped support for m68k and Alpha and
> deprived users of their freedom to run Debian on these platforms with
> the latest supported software. But these architectures weren't dropped
> because they wanted to take away people's freed
On Nov 23, 2012, at 03:06 PM, YunQiang Su wrote:
>you always need to build for one arch and test, then why not upload it?
I think there are a lot of good reasons to do source-only uploads, even when
you should be building locally for testing purposes.
* Reproducibility - buildds provide a more c
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> On 11/25/2012 02:39 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
>> Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of
>>> adobe in fonts hinting that is included in our fon
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 06:43:41PM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting Mehdi Dogguy (me...@dogguy.org):
> > On 11/25/2012 02:39 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> > > Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a pro
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 02:12:23AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> P.S: By the way, there's still an ongoing m68k porting effort. Please
> respect
> this work as well.
I've been a vivid Amiga user since 1991* and I still love these
machines and I am supporting the efforts to get Debian back onto
m6
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694354 was not blocked by any bugs.
694354 was not blocking any bugs.
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On 11/25/2012 07:36 PM, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
>> On 11/25/2012 02:39 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
>>> Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (roucaries.bast...@gmail.com):
Hi,
I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code o
Hi there!
I see many note in this list like:
"I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me."
So I'd like to note:
1. Some e-mail cleints make it hard not to CC. For example GMail has only
two options: reply and reply to all. "Reply" will send email to the author,
not to the list
2. Som
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:27:31AM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> I see many note in this list like:
> "I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me."
This is a technical list. Please discuss non-technical issues like the
above elsewhere, e.g. on debian-project.
Thanks and best regar
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, 07:27:31 LHST, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> I see many note in this list like:
> "I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me."
>
> So I'd like to note:
>
> 1. Some e-mail cleints make it hard not to CC. For example GMail has only
> two options: reply and r
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 06:06:02PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> > > some of us prefer a separated /usr partition.
> > "I want to have a separate /usr, because I can"
> > enabling a separate /usr means extra work.
> using a separate /usr was controversial
> partitioned their systems with a separ
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 07:35:32AM +1100, Karl Goetz wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, 07:27:31 LHST, Игорь Пашев wrote:
>
> > Hi there!
> >
> > I see many note in this list like:
> > "I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me."
> >
> > So I'd like to note:
> >
> > 1. Some e-mail clein
On So, 25 Nov 2012, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> [crap]
> foo = bar
...
> issue, even git uses that crap instead of something better like xml,
??? Sorry, are you realistically proposing a convolutive pile of shit
like XML for simple config files?
I will send *each*and*every* bug report d
On 25.11.2012 22:49, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> It's annoying and it wastes my time. If your MUA can't handle a CC, get
> a better MUA. +1 to removing the CC rule.
It's annoying and it wastes my time to deal with duplicates. If yor MUA
can't handle mailing lists properly, get a better MUA. +1 on ke
On 25/11/12 19:02, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
[...]
> I've been a vivid Amiga user since 1991* and I still love these
> machines and I am supporting the efforts to get Debian back onto
> m68k. Yet, I do not think this should happen at all costs. There
> haven't been no new 68k processors for
On 26/11/2012 05:49, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 07:35:32AM +1100, Karl Goetz wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, 07:27:31 LHST, Игорь Пашев
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there!
>>>
>>> I see many note in this list like:
>>> "I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me."
>>>
>>>
Hello there,
On 25 November 2012 20:35, Karl Goetz wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, 07:27:31 LHST, Игорь Пашев wrote:
>
>> Hi there!
>>
>> I see many note in this list like:
>> "I'm registered to the list. So please *do not* Cc: me."
>>
>> So I'd like to note:
>>
>> 1. Some e-mail cleints make it h
On Nov 25, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Arno Töll wrote:
>It's annoying and it wastes my time to deal with duplicates. If yor MUA
>can't handle mailing lists properly, get a better MUA. +1 on keeping
>things as they are.
Maybe it takes longer than 14 years for MUAs to implement standards[1]. ;)
(Yes, that
* Dmitrijs Ledkovs , 2012-11-26, 00:19:
If your e-mail processing machinery cannot handle duplicate messages
(due to cross-postings and CC's), maybe you should get an a better
email processing machinery. Receiving duplicate emails is inevitable,
and trivial to deal with.
Oh really? I've alway
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:19:18AM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> If your e-mail processing machinery cannot handle duplicate messages
> (due to cross-postings and CC's), maybe you should get an a better
> email processing machinery. Receiving duplicate emails is inevitable,
> and trivial to deal
On 26 November 2012 00:50, brian m. carlson
wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:19:18AM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
>> If your e-mail processing machinery cannot handle duplicate messages
>> (due to cross-postings and CC's), maybe you should get an a better
>> email processing machinery. Receiv
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Dmitrijs Ledkovs , 2012-11-26, 00:19:
> >If your e-mail processing machinery cannot handle duplicate
> >messages (due to cross-postings and CC's), maybe you should get an
> >a better email processing machinery. Receiving duplicate emails is
> >inevitable,
On 11/25/2012 08:12 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Jakub Wilk wrote:
* Dmitrijs Ledkovs , 2012-11-26, 00:19:
If your e-mail processing machinery cannot handle duplicate messages (due
to cross-postings and CC's), maybe you should get an a better email
processing m
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes:
> Well, the software to do it is around for more than 15 years. Google
> for "procmail duplicate suppression".
This works exactly backwards of how useful duplicate suppression would
actually work.
When someone copies you on a message to a mailing list, you g
Hi,
Le 26/11/2012 04:41, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> When someone copies you on a message to a mailing list, you get two
> copies,
Not always. My ISP (French "Free/Proxad") seems to filter mail with
the same Message-ID sent in a few period of time (a few minutes?)
When I discovered that (of cour
Vincent Danjean writes:
> Not always. My ISP (French "Free/Proxad") seems to filter mail with
> the same Message-ID sent in a few period of time (a few minutes?)
Interesting, this could explain the oddities that I've seen too.
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> Norbert Preining writes:
[...]
> Ever heard of grep, sed, awk, all these nice things that make
> your life happy. Trash them when you are doing XML.
JFTR: there's xmlstarlet(1), which is capable enough to replace
awk(1), sed(1), and grep(1) (which is more often th
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> I see. I went back to check my email archive. I have found two
> instances of debian-devel posts that did CC my @debian.org email
> address (I am also subscribed to debian devel via @debian.org). I only
> have one email. It is sorted correctly. I am st
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