Hi,
here is my proposed bug template for reporting conffile manipulation.
That will cover the majority of these bugs. Non-conffile manipulation
may need some more analysis and discussion.
If noone objects, I'll go ahead with filing these bugs with Severity:
serious since this is a violation of a
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:52:29PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote:
> Description : What do you want to deploy today?
A better short description is needed here. In a nutshell, what
does it do?
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Hi Andreas,
thanks for your work on this, again! :-)
On Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> = 8< =
> To: sub...@bugs.debian.org
> Subject: modifies conffiles (policy 10.7.3):
I miss one sentence in this mail template: "Please see the attached log for
details." :-)
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 09:08:23PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> I'm so tired of these gnome2 vs gnome3 discussions...
Stop proliferating them then! They are orthogonal to the point of
this thread, and you will never shout down all the people who disagree
with your point of view.
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Hi,
I just sponsored the ninja-build package. I realize now that I may
have missed one point: does it need to conflict with package ninja ?
ninja-build will provide usr/bin/ninja, while ninja provides
usr/sbin/ninja.
The policy requires a Conflicts only when two packages provide the
same file
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:52:29PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote:
>> Description : What do you want to deploy today?
>
> A better short description is needed here. In a nutshell, what
> does it do?
Moreover they exist a rex language interpre
Hi,
On 19.09.2012 11:41, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> Comments ?
You may want to read <20120712185928.gy1...@teltox.donarmstrong.com> [1]
and <20120806133711.ga2...@jwilk.net> [2]
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg2.html
[2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2
Andreas Beckmann writes ("Re: [Piuparts-devel] how to handle partial upgrade
problems?"):
> Moving around files with proper Breaks/Replaces is described in the Policy:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-replaces
> and the footnote 53
> http://www.debian.org/doc/debia
Le mardi 18 septembre 2012 à 21:08 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> > I don't consider MATE to be future-proof.
>
> And that's your good right, but that really doesn't mean anything.
It means that MATE developers do not have the knowledge to maintain
several of the components they ship.
The v
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Antoine Beaupré wrote:
> We are in the process of kickstarting a Debian User Group (DUG), also
> known as a Local Group on the Debian wiki[1], in Montreal. We wish to unite
> the Debian Members that are in the city, but also interest the numerous
> free software e
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Debian Policy 3.9.4.0 released"):
> Well, I'll use that version once we get the multiarch changes in for sure.
> :)
4.x surely :-).
Ian.
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Henrique de Moraes Holschuh dixit:
>From: Andi Kleen
>To: linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbu...@vger.kernel.org
>The problem is that the tarball includes /lib/{modules,firmware},
>but on FC17 /lib is a symlink. tar when it unpacks the tarball
>replaces the symlink with the directory. So the
Hi Paul, and Andrei, thanks for your responses.
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> E: debian-community.org (though lists are currently hosted on alioth
> as well)
I am not familiar with that site, and I get a connexion timeout trying
to connect to it as a website here.
Paul Wise wrote:
> I would suggest th
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ole Streicher
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* Package name: casa
Version : 3.4.0
Upstream Author : Several institutions under the guidance of NRAO
* URL : http://casa.nrao.edu/
* Lic
On 09/17/2012 10:03 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Sep 17, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
To cite http://release.debian.org/wheezy/rc_policy.txt:
Packages' /etc/default scripts must be treated as configuration files.
Which are not the same things as conffiles.
I of course agree with Marco.
BTW, "conffil
On 19.09.2012 08:44, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
If noone objects, I'll go ahead with filing these bugs with Severity:
serious since this is a violation of a "must" directive.
Do we have an idea of how many such bugs there are affecting wheezy
currently? Apologies if that was answered earlier in
On 17/09/2012 13:10, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On 09/17/2012 12:49 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:59:44AM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>>> On 09/17/2012 11:56 AM, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
Modifying conffiles is forbidden by policy 10.7.3
>>> Well, conffiles are sometimes modi
On 2012-09-19 15:25, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On 19.09.2012 08:44, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
>> If noone objects, I'll go ahead with filing these bugs with Severity:
>> serious since this is a violation of a "must" directive.
>
> Do we have an idea of how many such bugs there are affecting wheezy
>
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Mathieu Malaterre
* Package name: herold
Version : 6.0.1-68
Upstream Author : Michael Fuchs
* URL : http://www.dbdoclet.org/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Java
Description : HTML to DocBook XML conversion
Th
]] Jean-Christophe Dubacq
> And this means that automatic management is hard, because they are
> generated by scripts, and as such, not easy to store, compare to
> default, etc.
«default» doesn't really make any sense when it's a template that's
filled in by debconf/maintainer scripts.
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On 12-09-19 at 05:27pm, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Jean-Christophe Dubacq
>
> > And this means that automatic management is hard, because they are
> > generated by scripts, and as such, not easy to store, compare to
> > default, etc.
>
> «default» doesn't really make any sense when it's a tem
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 09:24:00PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
[ "conffiles" being confusing ]
> Anyone with a better idea?
It's in NM 101 and it's only used as a shorthand if dpkg conffiles are
meant. That others are unable to parse it, well, they could look it up
on the internets and find buxy
* Philipp Kern , 2012-09-19, 18:25:
I've never seen somebody starting to use "conffile" when he really
meant "configuration file".
Obviously you don't hang out at #debian-mentors. ;)
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Russ Allbery wrote:
> 7.8
> New `Built-Using' field, which must be used to document the
> source packages for any binaries that are incorporated into this
> package at build time. This is used to ensure that the archive
> meets license requirements for
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Joey Hess wrote:
> Russ Allbery wrote:
> > 7.8
> > New `Built-Using' field, which must be used to document the
> > source packages for any binaries that are incorporated into this
> > package at build time. This is used to ensure that the arc
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Jon Dowland wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:52:29PM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote:
> >> Description : What do you want to deploy today?
> >
> > A better short description is needed here. In a nutshell, what
>
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:01:39AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > 7.8
> > > New `Built-Using' field, which must be used to document the
> > > source packages for any binaries that are incorporated into
Joey Hess writes:
> It seems that this was intended to apply to standalone binaries embedded
> into things like d-i initrds (which already use it), but as it's written
> it seems to apply to static linking of libraries as well.
> That would include large numbers of haskell libraries and binaries
Ian Jackson writes:
> Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Debian Policy 3.9.4.0 released"):
>> Well, I'll use that version once we get the multiarch changes in for
>> sure. :)
> 4.x surely :-).
Hm, I was hanging on to the 4.x version for rewriting the thing in DocBook
with corresponding significant orga
Mate Desktop environment (http://www.mate-desktop.org)
I am writing in support of Mate DE. In less than a year a few people
have designed an alternative to Gnome 3.
I have been averaging one reconditioned HP Compaq nc6400 laptop per
quarter year, four per year. This is one of my contributions to
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Christoph Egger
* Package name: cuse4bsd
Version : SVN
* URL : http://www.selasky.org/hans_petter/cuse4bsd/
* License : BSD-ish
Programming Lang:
Description : library and kernel module which allows character devic
On 19/09/2012 17:52, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 12-09-19 at 05:27pm, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>> ]] Jean-Christophe Dubacq
>>
>>> And this means that automatic management is hard, because they are
>>> generated by scripts, and as such, not easy to store, compare to
>>> default, etc.
>>
>> «defau
On 19/09/12 13:50, anarcat wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> [x] E: Host lists on their own server in someones basement
>
> See that's exactly what I'm talking about - *I* can do this, I can host
> lists in my "basement" (or my "freedombox", call it what you like), as
> I am an experienced sysadmi
Don Armstrong wrote:
> This sort of sounds like Built-Using: only needs to contain things
> which the package doesn't already Depends: (or perhaps even
> Recommends:) on. [Which would resolve the archive licensing
> requirements.]
To to usable to ensure GPL compliance, Built-Using needs to specify
Joey Hess writes:
> Don Armstrong wrote:
>> This sort of sounds like Built-Using: only needs to contain things
>> which the package doesn't already Depends: (or perhaps even
>> Recommends:) on. [Which would resolve the archive licensing
>> requirements.]
> To to usable to ensure GPL compliance,
On 2012-09-19, Roger Lynn wrote:
> Unless all the members of a group are beginners, isn't this an opportunity
> for a more experienced member to learn about hosting a server, how email
> works, setting up a mailing list and using Debian? I first set up a Mailman
> instance when I had been using Deb
also sprach Roger Lynn [2012.09.19.2150 +0200]:
> Unless all the members of a group are beginners, isn't this an
> opportunity for a more experienced member to learn about hosting
> a server, how email works, setting up a mailing list and using
> Debian? I first set up a Mailman instance when I ha
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