Re: O: ted -- lightweight .DOC editor

2012-08-30 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:28:39 -0500 Ztatik Light wrote: > Subject: ITP: ted -- lightweight .DOC editor There is also another package requesting the name ted - #605503. The package should be renamed to something more unique. Your message didn't successfully change the title of the bug - please se

Re: Bug#684726: ITP: check_v46 -- Icinga / Nagios plugin for dual stacked (IPv4 / IPv6) hosts

2012-08-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams writes: > I haven't allowed Recommends to be installed by default since it became > the default - without problems so far. Makes me think that other > maintainers aren't risking the default implementation being broken when > a Recommends: is missing or else implementing something ak

Re: [b-d][falla] acl2

2012-08-30 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Camm Maguire said: > Greetings! > > Peter Palfrader writes: > > > On Tue, 28 Aug 2012, Camm Maguire wrote: > > > >> > On Mon, 27 Aug 2012, Camm Maguire wrote: > >> > > >> >> Greetings! This is to build by hand in order to work around an > >> >> unreproducible fault

Re: O: ted -- lightweight .DOC editor

2012-08-30 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello, On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:28:39 -0500 Ztatik Light wrote: > The only "valid" .DOC editors in Debian are LibreOffice and AbiWord, > which are both somewhat bloated (especially LibreOffice, as it's in > Java) ... That's not true. LibreOffice isn't written in Java, it's written in C++. -- WB

Re: Inconsistency between mime-support, shared-mime-info and file for PHP files media types.

2012-08-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 30 août 2012 à 00:38 +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer a écrit : > On Thu, 2012-08-30 at 07:16 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > A type is a subclass of another type if any instance of the first type is > > also an instance of the second. For example, all image/svg files are also > > t

Re: Inconsistency between mime-support, shared-mime-info and file for PHP files media types.

2012-08-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Josselin Mouette writes: > All applications implementing the XDG MIME specification (e.g. through > GIO or kdelibs) get the benefit of such features (and others such as > aliasing). > Yet people keep screaming that mime-support is awesome and don’t want to > drop it. Please don't distort other

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-08-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 22:25 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > On Aug 30, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > > The obvious way is to not use a separate /usr anymore or simply mount > > > > /usr via the in

Re: [proposal] use xz compression for Debian package by default

2012-08-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 05:12:15PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > We are building a binary distribution which main characteristic is to have > the > packages built _rarely_. As such, a useful but CPU-expensive operation is > always worth it. The situation is slightly different for Debian-

Re: [proposal] use xz compression for Debian package by default

2012-08-30 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le jeudi, 30 août 2012 14.46:33, Jon Dowland a écrit : > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 05:12:15PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > We are building a binary distribution which main characteristic is to > > have the packages built _rarely_. As such, a useful but CPU-expensive > > operation is always

Re: O: ted -- lightweight .DOC editor

2012-08-30 Thread David Given
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Williams wrote: [...] > The problems described in #501638 would mean that the package would > not be allowed back into Debian unless fixed. It looks like this isn't an issue any more --- the relevant paragraph from the docs is now: Ted is fr

Re: O: ted -- lightweight .DOC editor

2012-08-30 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:43:55 +0100 David Given wrote: > > The problems described in #501638 would mean that the package would > > not be allowed back into Debian unless fixed. > > It looks like this isn't an issue any more --- the relevant paragraph > from the docs is now: > > Ted is free s

Re: O: ted -- lightweight .DOC editor

2012-08-30 Thread David Given
Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: [...] > There's still no such thing as the "GNU Public License", what the > author seemingly try to refer to is called "GNU General Public > License", that is, the 'G' in "GPL" stands for "General", not for "GNU". IRL that's actually a link to the FSF page, so it seems

Re: [b-d][falla] acl2

2012-08-30 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! Stephen Gran writes: > Why not add logging to the Makefile, or cat debian/mini-proveall.out or > something? This doesn't look like a dead end to me. > Thanks so much for your suggestion! Can uploads instruct all autobuilders but for a single arch to ignore the package? The build i

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-08-30 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Russ, On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 04:06:22PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Biebl writes: > > Imho moving pam modules around is just wasted (maintainer) time. > > A much more sensible approach is to just lift the /-vs-/usr restriction. > We just had a long discussion about this. I think i

Bug#686278: ITP: previous -- previous: NeXTcube/NeXTstation emulator

2012-08-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz * Package name: previous Version : svn Upstream Author : Gilles_Fétis * URL : http://previous.alternative-system.com * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: C Description : previous: NeXTcub

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-30 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:44:11AM +0200, Andrew Shadura wrote: > How do you suppose it's possible to undo arbitrary network > configuration done by arbitrary set of tools when there's no central > place to hold such information (and can't possibly be)? Actually, the kernel holds that information.

Re: [b-d][falla] acl2

2012-08-30 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 03:23:53PM -0400, Camm Maguire wrote: > Greetings! > > Stephen Gran writes: > > > Why not add logging to the Makefile, or cat debian/mini-proveall.out or > > something? This doesn't look like a dead end to me. > > > > Thanks so much for your suggestion! Can uploads ins

Discussion of uscan enhancement 1 (Was: uscan enhancement take 3: script hook)

2012-08-30 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I repost some extract from some private discussion about the Files-Excluded enhancement of uscan where Nicolas Boulenguez found some issues. (Nicolas, I hope you don't mind if I quote some of your non-private remarks in public.) Nicolas problem is mainly that if you specify "Files-Exclu

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-08-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:11:44AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > [Russ Allbery] > > >> All PAM modules are installed under /lib, because that's the path > > >> used by libpam to load them. However, I don't think the vast > > >> majority of PAM modules could be considered critical for early boot

Re: Enabling uupdate to simply remove files from upstream source (Was: Minified javascript files)

2012-08-30 Thread Nicolas Boulenguez
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Re: Discussion of uscan enhancement 1 (Was: uscan enhancement take 3: script hook)

2012-08-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-08-30 at 11:44pm, Andreas Tille wrote: > I repost some extract from some private discussion about the > Files-Excluded enhancement of uscan where Nicolas Boulenguez found > some issues. (Nicolas, I hope you don't mind if I quote some of your > non-private remarks in public.) > > Nicolas

Work-needing packages report for Aug 31, 2012

2012-08-30 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 454 (new: 5) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 143 (new: 0) Total number of packages request

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-30 Thread Serge
2012/8/10 Josselin Mouette wrote: >> Please explain why adding another sysv-rc drop-in replacements cripples >> the Linux port. > > Because being able to choose between alternatives for core features such > as the init system only brings more bugs and no added value. Sorry, I don't understand thi

Re: Discussion of uscan enhancement 1 (Was: uscan enhancement take 3: script hook)

2012-08-30 Thread Nicolas Boulenguez
(apologizes for the previous empty mail) On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:44:34PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 02:32:56AM +0200, Nicolas Boulenguez wrote: > > Assume that "a" and "b" are directories, if I understand well, the > > current behaviour is to recursively remove "a/b/

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-08-30 Thread Serge
2012/8/30 Michael Biebl wrote: >> All PAM modules are installed under /lib, because that's the path >> used by libpam to load them. However, I don't think the vast >> majority of PAM modules could be considered critical for early boot >> or need to be usable without /usr mounted > Imho moving pa

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-08-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 31 aug 12, 06:39:19, Serge wrote: > > For example if filesystem is supposed to be network-mounted, and network is > brought by the user, which logs into GNOME session and manually selects wifi > connection in nm-applet, initramfs still does not help there, since you > can't put entire gnome

Bug#686322: ITP: libgoffice -- Document centric objects library

2012-08-30 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: libgoffice Version: 0.9.5 Upstream Author: gnome.org URL: http://git.gnome.org/browse/goffice/ License: GPL-2 or GPL-3 Description: Document centric objects library

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-08-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 08/30/2012 02:04 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > And I suppose Marco must remove all /usr dependencies from everything > that installs a udev hook too? > Why not? Is the only argument against that is that upstream took such decision, and that the work to be done is too big? Thomas -- To UNSUBS