Andrei POPESCU writes:
> On Jo, 12 iul 12, 17:44:52, Gergely Nagy wrote:
>>
>> > Then some time later during upgrade it'll upgrade all packages
>> > but will not install N-M; at the same time it'll install
>> > new package that was added to Recommends in that new version.
>>
>> As far as I reme
Gergely Nagy writes:
>> Please don't forget that a Recommends will pull in packages in all but
>> unusual installations :)
>
> But also keep in mind, that once a package is installed, adding new
> recommends will not pull those new things in on an upgrade.
I've been corrected, that this stateme
Jeremy Bicha writes:
> I don't claim to be a networking expert, but I believe half the
> conversation here is based on wrong or outdated information.
My (personal) complaint about NM is that it doesn't correct correctly
work with NFS mounts, I believe because it doesn't run at the right
time duri
Miles Bader writes:
> issues with NM: it doesn't seem to be tested with much in the way of
> non-standard setups
My personal feeling is that this happens because people who use
non-standard setups usually start by purging NM instead of trying to
spend weeks reading the source code to contribute
Gergely Nagy writes:
> if upstream considers a package a core part of a platform,
> recommends *is* wrong.
Er, no.
Upstreams are not infallible, and are often quite fallible...
Upstream's "view" is a good _default_, but such judgements should be
made based on the reality on the ground.
-miles
Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 07:27 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
> ]] Gergely Nagy
>
> > Instead of fighting for Recommends, which would break your system in
> > various interesting ways later on[1], there's a third solution: noone
> > stops anyone from uploading a gnome-minimal package, whi
Miles Bader writes:
> Gergely Nagy writes:
>> if upstream considers a package a core part of a platform,
>> recommends *is* wrong.
>
> Er, no.
>
> Upstreams are not infallible, and are often quite fallible...
>
> Upstream's "view" is a good _default_, but such judgements should be
> made based o
Hi everyone,
can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
pdfs are opened with a file-manager, as well as .txt files, as
well as anything.
That is when using
Is there a list of software which should
be used instead of some old software?
That is, should orphaned packages stay orphaned
for a good reason.
Also, are people wasting time in packaging
oldies which should be orphaned?
However, I checked that openscenegraph (OSG).
Seems like it is not used mu
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Le 13/07/12 11:21, Juhana Sadeharju a écrit :
> Is there a list of software which should be used instead of some
> old software? That is, should orphaned packages stay orphaned for a
> good reason.
>
> Also, are people wasting time in packaging oldies
On 13/07/2012 11:13, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
> It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
> program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
> pdfs are opened with a file-manager, as well
Hi,
Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 18:13 +0900, Norbert Preining a écrit :
> can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
> It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
> program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
> pdfs are opened with a file-man
Hi,
2012-07-13 11:13, Norbert Preining skrev:
Hi everyone,
can we somehome make $subject a target for the*next* release?
It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
pdfs are opened with a file-manager, as well as .txt
On 07/13/2012 02:25 AM, w...@debian.org wrote:
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Thibaut Paumard writes:
> Le 13/07/12 11:21, Juhana Sadeharju a écrit :
>> Is there a list of software which should be used instead of some
>> old software? That is, should orphaned packages stay orphaned for a
>> good reason.
>>
>> Also, are peopl
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Le 13/07/12 12:13, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
> see is obsolete. Maybe the target for the next release could be to
> get rid of it.
Please don't.
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Le 13/07/12 12:41, Alberto Luaces a écrit :
> Thibaut Paumard writes:
>
>> Le 13/07/12 11:21, Juhana Sadeharju a écrit :
>>> However, I checked that openscenegraph (OSG). Seems like it is
>>> not used much, but as scenegraph fan myself, I don't know
>
* Per Olofsson [120713 12:18]:
> 1. Rewrite xdg-utils so that it is robust and always works.
It you want to make xdg-open useable for everything, please also
add a way to specify the mime type as option. Without that using
it for opening mail attachements or stuff downloaded (i.e. things
that alr
On Friday 13 July 2012 13:45:19 Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Per Olofsson [120713 12:18]:
> > 1. Rewrite xdg-utils so that it is robust and always works.
>
> It you want to make xdg-open useable for everything, please also
> add a way to specify the mime type as option. Without that using
> it for
Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 14:26 +0200, George Danchev a écrit :
> > It you want to make xdg-open useable for everything, please also
> > add a way to specify the mime type as option. Without that using
> > it for opening mail attachements or stuff downloaded (i.e. things
> > that already show
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:13:15PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>
> see is obsolete.
Says who?
Andreas.
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:13:43PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
> It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
> program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
> pdfs are opened with a
Hi fellow Debian folks,
Please, when composing debian/changelog for package releases, take a
moment to reflect on what you put into that file and how you phrase it.
It is a changelog, so should contain a list of changes.
This is not a list of changes:
python3-defaults (3.2.3-4) unstable; urgen
Kurt wrote:
>On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:13:43PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
>> It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
>> program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
>> pdfs
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:13:43PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
Hi,
Please consider making this a release goal when we call for them after
the release.
Thanks,
Neil
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Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 16:26 +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit :
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:13:15PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> >
> > see is obsolete.
>
> Says who?
As your mailer made pretty clear, I am the author of the above sentence.
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Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 17:32 +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit :
> Kurt wrote:
> >pdfs are opened with gimp for me.
>
> I'm seeing that too, and it's ludicrous.
See <1342174395.18031.15.camel@pi0307572> for the explanation.
(Also, gimp shouldn’t be a PDF handler, but that’s another issue.)
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On 13.07.2012 18:41, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> pdfs are opened with gimp for me.
They are opened in gimp for me too and it doesn't understand them how
it should. I would prefer them to be opened in Evince.
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[...]
> >> The amount of extra work necessary is minimal though.
> >
> > Not so minimal if you want your gnome set to be up to date, including new
> > applications being installed.
>
> It is very minimal. 5 minutes of work. Been there, done that, posted the
> bulk of the solution, and a general o
❦ 13 juillet 2012 12:18 CEST, Per Olofsson :
> 1. Rewrite xdg-utils so that it is robust and always works. Instead of
> relying on desktop environments, it should do the needed work by
> itself. Currently it's something of a hack, especially when running in
> "generic" mode. It should probably b
Jonas Smedegaard (13/07/2012):
> Please proofread your changelog before releasing a packaging, and make
> sure all entries describe what was _changed_. ^
SNCR,
KiBi.
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
Package: wnpp
Owner: Mario Lang
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: bmc
Version : 0.0.1
Upstream Author : Mario Lang
* URL or Web page : https://github.com/mlang/bmc
* License : GPLv3
Description : Braille Music Compiler
BMC aims to become a system for translating b
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Joenio Costa
* Package name: google-apps
Version : 0.002
Upstream Author : Joenio Costa
* URL : http://metacpan.org/release/GoogleApps
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Perl
Description : command line tool to man
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Georges Khaznadar
* Package name: screenkey
Version : 0-2
Upstream Author : Pablo Seminario
* URL : http://pabloseminario.com/projects/screenkey/
* License : GPL-3
Programming Lang: Python
Description : screencas
That seems a reasonable plan to me. I've orphaned the mime-support
package, however, because I have no time to work on it right now and do not
expect to have any for the foreseeable future.
-- Brian
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 13 juillet 2012 12:18 CEST, Per Olo
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 07:33:09 Gergely Nagy wrote:
[...]
> I *hate* doing things manually, that's why I'm using a bloody high-level
> package manager. If it forces me to double-guess it, check a lot of
> things during upgrades, I might aswell go back to downloading packages
> by hand and
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 08:05:10 Gergely Nagy wrote:
[...]
> On one hand, you have, in the depends case:
>
> # apt-get remove gstreamer-plugins-good
>
> Which will try to remove the whole world, including the meta, and that
> will ring alarm bells.
>
> Or in the recommends case:
>
> # a
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 08:09:58 Gergely Nagy wrote:
> Gergely Nagy writes:
> >> Please don't forget that a Recommends will pull in packages in all but
> >> unusual installations :)
> >
> > But also keep in mind, that once a package is installed, adding new
> > recommends will not pull th
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 08:38:47 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Miles Bader writes:
> > issues with NM: it doesn't seem to be tested with much in the way of
> > non-standard setups
>
> My personal feeling is that this happens because people who use
> non-standard setups usually start by p
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 09:38:45 Gergely Nagy wrote:
> Miles Bader writes:
> > Gergely Nagy writes:
> >> if upstream considers a package a core part of a platform,
> >> recommends *is* wrong.
> >
> > Er, no.
> >
> > Upstreams are not infallible, and are often quite fallible...
> >
> >
Noel David Torres Taño writes:
> I *hate* doing things manually, that's why I'm using a bloody high-level
> metapackage. If it forces me to deinstall N-M by hand using
> --force-depends (because it breaks my Pidgin) every time I use aptitude
> to install something, either related or unrelated to
Hi,
Eshat Cakar made a package for screenkey already. As far as I know it
was in a good shape and only lacked a sponsor until he gave up
eventually. Maybe get in touch with him (CC:-ed) to save duplicate work.
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On 12-07-13 at 08:39pm, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Jonas Smedegaard (13/07/2012):
> > Please proofread your changelog before releasing a packaging, and make
> > sure all entries describe what was _changed_. ^
>
> SNCR,
> KiBi.
I fail to extract any meaning out of the above.
Could you
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:24:44AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 12-07-13 at 08:39pm, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Jonas Smedegaard (13/07/2012):
> > > Please proofread your changelog before releasing a packaging, and make
> > > sure all entries describe what was _changed_. ^
> >
Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Recommends for metapackages"):
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:32:19PM -0600, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 07:21:00PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote:
> > > Installing N-M breaks unrelated software.
> >
> > No. At most it breaks *related* software.
>
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Carlos Jenkins
* Package name: python-gtkspellcheck
Version : 2.4
Upstream Author : Maximilian Köhl & Carlos Jenkins
* URL : https://github.com/carlos-jenkins/pygtkspellcheck
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Python
Le Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:12:34PM +0200, Brian White a écrit :
> That seems a reasonable plan to me. I've orphaned the mime-support
> package, however, because I have no time to work on it right now and do not
> expect to have any for the foreseeable future.
Dear Brian,
I could not find the WNP
[sorry for the lengthy quoting below]
On 12/07/12 10:10, Gergely Nagy wrote:
> Noel David Torres Taño writes:
>> Not so minimal if you want your gnome set to be up to date, including new
>> applications being installed.
>
> It is very minimal. 5 minutes of work. Been there, done that, posted the
Hi Raphaël and Guillem,
in http://bugs.debian.org/681289, Raphaël proposed that the Changelog and
copyright should be package metadata. I personally like the idea, but I note
that last time it was introduced on debian-devel, it was not consensual
(http://lists.debian.org/20437.51932.971859.384...
Hi debian-devel list!
Please help me to write a proper `debian/copyright` file.
Original COPYING file says:
Several parties hold copyright to various parts of IRRToolSet. One or more
of the following licenses may apply to the code contained within this
distribution.
1. USC (and occasionally USC/
It is required to look into each file header and specify these
different files for each license.
Yao Wei
On 2012/7/14, at 13:09, Aliaksei Sheshka wrote:
> Hi debian-devel list!
>
> Please help me to write a proper `debian/copyright` file.
> Original COPYING file says:
>
> Several parties hold c
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>
> Please help me to write a proper `debian/copyright` file.
> Original COPYING file says:
>
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