On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 03:18:55PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:42:06PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >If you write to /tmp on disk and someone or something calls "sync" at
> >precisely the wrong moment, you're stuck, and your performance suffers.
> >Not so with tmpfs.
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:04:00AM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Hi Bernd,
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 14.06.2012, 10:32 +0200 schrieb Bernd Zeimetz:
> > > I would like to see more flexibility in dpkg-source as to where the
> > > effective build depends come from. My use case are (as you might guess
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 02:00:04PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> it seems that my idea is not well received; point taken, and I do like
> the alternative about debian/rules creating debian/control in the clean
> target.
Do. Not. Do. That.
Ever.
if you do, you risk all kinds of proble
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> On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:29 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
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>> On 2012-06-19 13:59, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
>> > This implies that an "apt-get install library" needs to trigger that
>> > restart.
>> > Which means that apt-get needs to depend on restart-servic
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On 2012-06-21 10:53:19 +0800 (+0800), Paul Wise wrote:
> I think you might have missed the point.
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On 06/21/2012 04:53 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Philip Ashmore wrote:
>
>> The thought of setting up personal (or even Debian-wide) Google+ servers
>> never occurred to me.
>
> I think you might have missed the point. Google+ is a proprietary SaaS
> used for selling yo
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Seriously, thats all fine stuff, but if having a hangout with 10+ people
> on google+ helps Debian to get the bugs squashed, I can't see a reason
> why we should not use it. It is much more pain free to use than any
> other solution we have in Debian.
O
On 21/06/12 13:10, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
On 06/21/2012 04:53 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Philip Ashmore wrote:
The thought of setting up personal (or even Debian-wide) Google+ servers
never occurred to me.
I think you might have missed the point. Google+ is a proprie
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:55:28PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > Seriously, thats all fine stuff, but if having a hangout with 10+ people
> > on google+ helps Debian to get the bugs squashed, I can't see a reason
> > why we should not use it. It is muc
On 06/21/2012 02:55 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>> Seriously, thats all fine stuff, but if having a hangout with 10+ people
>> on google+ helps Debian to get the bugs squashed, I can't see a reason
>> why we should not use it. It is much more pain free to u
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:17:05PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 02:55 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> >> Seriously, thats all fine stuff, but if having a hangout with 10+ people
> >> on google+ helps Debian to get the bugs squashed, I can't s
On Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> It is *easy* to use. It works out of the box. I don't need to tell
> people how to use it and what to install. It works with various other
> devices. And so on. I do not believe that your question was serious
> anyway.
Windows is *easy* to u
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:28:26PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > It is *easy* to use. It works out of the box. I don't need to tell
> > people how to use it and what to install. It works with various other
> > devices. And so on. I do not believe that your question was serious
> > anyway.
>
2012/6/21 Andrey Rahmatullin :
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:28:26PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> > It is *easy* to use. It works out of the box. I don't need to tell
>> > people how to use it and what to install. It works with various other
>> > devices. And so on. I do not believe that your
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 09:06:30AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Maybe, but we are talking about defaults. Please correct me, but I
think that most Debian systems are in some way single user systems.
Not in my experience.
So most of your Debian systems have several users working at the same
t
As far as I understand, it is entirely true that Google's Hangout,
or Skype, are easy to use. Of the free variants, I mainly have
experience with Mumble, which usually works, but requires tweaking
and configuration to work well.
The other aspect, however, is that Hangout and Skype are not free.
I
On Jun 21, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> The other aspect, however, is that Hangout and Skype are not free.
> It is not unacceptable for those developing Debian to use non-free
> software, or non-free services, but it gets problematic if it's
I do not remember the social contract discussing services pr
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 07:11:52PM +0530, Praveen A wrote:
> >> > It is *easy* to use. It works out of the box. I don't need to tell
> >> > people how to use it and what to install. It works with various other
> >> > devices. And so on. I do not believe that your question was serious
> >> > any
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:55:28PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > > Seriously, thats all fine stuff, but if having a hangout with 10+
> > > people on google+ helps Debian to get the bugs squashed, I can't see
]] Russell Coker
> What features does Google+ offer that you believe to be lacking in
> free software packaged for Debian? What do you think is the easiest
> way to fix this problem?
Well-working multi-user video chats. I don't think we have any tool
capable of multi-user video chats at all.
]] Lars Wirzenius
> The other aspect, however, is that Hangout and Skype are not free.
> It is not unacceptable for those developing Debian to use non-free
> software, or non-free services, but it gets problematic if it's
> the common case, or if it is advocated. We, as a project, value
> softwar
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:58:12PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> While some people understandably do not like to use proprietary online
> services managed by third parties, there is no consensus that using them
> for Debian purposes is inappropriate.
I believe there is a consensus that having the
On 06/21/2012 03:50 PM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> As far as I understand, it is entirely true that Google's Hangout,
> or Skype, are easy to use. Of the free variants, I mainly have
> experience with Mumble, which usually works, but requires tweaking
> and configuration to work well.
>
> The other
On Jun 21, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > While some people understandably do not like to use proprietary online
> > services managed by third parties, there is no consensus that using them
> > for Debian purposes is inappropriate.
> I believe there is a consensus that having the project recommend t
Dnia 2012-06-21, czw o godzinie 09:06 +0200, Wouter Verhelst pisze:
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> Yes; but if you're going to make /tmp be a separate partition, then your
> argument that there's more space on disk doesn't really hold anymore,
> either, since now /tmp is much much smaller than your disk (I've never
> s
Please do not CC me, I am on the list.
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:02:03AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> One thing I've idly considered is running an IRC server at LUG meetings to
> coordinate questions for the speaker. I'm not sure how well that would work,
> but as I can run my own IRC server
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:10:11PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:58:12PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > While some people understandably do not like to use proprietary online
> > services managed by third parties, there is no consensus that using them
> > for Debian pu
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 09:37:03AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 02:00:04PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > it seems that my idea is not well received; point taken, and I do like
> > the alternative about debian/rules creating debian/control in the clean
>
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:16:51AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Ben Hutchings writes:
>
> > On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:29 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> On 2012-06-19 13:59, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> >> > This implies that an "apt-get install library" needs to trigge
+++ Bernd Zeimetz [2012-06-21 15:17 +0200]:
> On 06/21/2012 02:55 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> It is *easy* to use. It works out of the box.
Not if you only have one name. Google+ won't let me sign up, despite
emphasising the importance of using your r
+++ Tollef Fog Heen [2012-06-21 16:04 +0200]:
> ]] Russell Coker
>
> > What features does Google+ offer that you believe to be lacking in
> > free software packaged for Debian? What do you think is the easiest
> > way to fix this problem?
>
> Well-working multi-user video chats. I don't think
Stephan Seitz writes:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 09:06:30AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>>> Maybe, but we are talking about defaults. Please correct me, but I
>>> think that most Debian systems are in some way single user systems.
>> Not in my experience.
> So most of your Debian systems have
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 21, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
>>> While some people understandably do not like to use proprietary online
>>> services managed by third parties, there is no consensus that using them
>>> for Debian purposes is inappropriate.
>> I believe there is a cons
El 20/06/12 21:56, Kees Cook escribió:
> If you're using debhelper compat level 9, you don't have to worry about
> including hardening-wrapper and using DEB_BUILD_HARDENING=1. You'll get
> the defaults automatically through debhelper. This is the preferred way
> to get build flags now.
>
Yes, I'm u
I wonder if we have a way to achieve that.
I package a few Python modules and enable build-time testing in them for
at least some QA. Some of the packages, although being pure Python
(thus architecture all), deal with data I/O thus prone to bugs related
to alignment/endianness etc. Unfortunatel
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 01:21:00PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> I wonder if we have a way to achieve that.
I think this is best handled with autopkgtest. See recent efforts to
set up Debian infrastructure to use it.
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:08:51PM +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
> On 20/06/12 15:18, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> >>
> >
> > Fine let’s talk. Why can’t we find a compromise? Additional to our disk
> > /tmp we create a /ramtmp (so the name suggests that this tmp is a
> > ramdisk) with tmpfs.
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:20:03PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
because I think it'd be impossible to convince some people that /tmp
isn't a random dumping ground for anything and everything.
But what is /tmp for you? Since my first Unix experience in the 90s, /tmp
was always the local disk f
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> specified by DEP-3.
>
> I'm currently using something like this:
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> Origin:
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Dear all,
I think that the idea behind autopkgtest (DEP 8) is very interesting, and could
eventually replace build-time regression tests. To train myself, I tried to
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However, adt-run needs a virtual machine. I know that some developers have
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Paul Wise wrote:
> > I package a few Python modules and enable build-time testing in them for
> > at least some QA. Some of the packages, although being pure Python
> > (thus architecture all), deal with data I/O thus prone to bugs related
> > to alignment/endianness etc.
On 06/21/2012 10:53 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Philip Ashmore wrote:
>
>
>> The thought of setting up personal (or even Debian-wide) Google+ servers
>> never occurred to me.
>>
> I think you might have missed the point. Google+ is a proprietary SaaS
> used for s
On 06/21/2012 10:39 PM, Jon Dowland wrote:
> Fair enough - but let's not lob hand grenades at people who might find it
> useful. Let them get on with it if they want to.
>
Sorry, but it's fair enough to "lob hand grenades" at people suggesting
non open source solutions, useful or not. Feel free
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