On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 15:26:06 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh (h...@debian.org) [120609 02:31]:
> > We'd just have to teach the tool to binNMU all arches when the target
> > package would need it due to multiarch. Release team requests a binNMU of a
> > package for som
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On 06/08/2012 09:15 AM, Norbert Preining wrote:
Hi everyone,
is this only me or do I have the feeling that we are going down
the trench with Gnome?
Repeatedly:
- first login: nautilus segfaults in libnautilus-fileroller.so
after log out and log in it sometimes works
starting it manually mo
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 04:59:14PM +0300, Serge wrote:
> 2012/6/8 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>
> > [Wouter Verhelst]
> >> - You could mount your mail spool there, and make things go blazingly
> >> fast [1]
>
> You could, but this is not related to /tmp.
Sure; that was a joke, after all.
> >>
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 01:51:19AM +0300, Serge wrote:
> Some people asked for a thread summary. So here it is.
[Lots of drivel, including thoroughly debunked statements, snipped.
Seriously, can't you even read what's written to you? Sorry for being
angry, but there's a limit to how many times you
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 01:51:19AM +0300, Serge wrote:
> Some people asked for a thread summary. So here it is.
Sorry, but this is a biased summary, and therefore useless for what it
intends to be.
[...]
> "/tmp on tmpfs is good" quotes
> ==
> No real quotes here. Most
* Guillem Jover (guil...@debian.org) [120610 10:08]:
> As I mentioned in the long ref-counting thread, I strongly disagree this
> is a correct solution, it just seems like a hack to me. Instead I
> think we should consider changelog (and copyright as long as it's in
> machine parseable format) as d
Hi,
(Please send followup messages to -project.)
The ftp team wants to change how allowing Debian Maintainers to upload
packages works. The current approach with the DM-Upload-Allowed field
has a few issues we would like to address:
- It applies to all DMs listed as Maintainer/Uploaders. It is
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 01:52:24PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> Perhaps we could add the binNMU entry for the moment and fix the rest
> later? Or whatever would make you more happy. Just I'd like to be able
> to schedule binNMUs again on ma-packages.
There is no such block in place.
Kind regards
[ Dropping the bug report, moving the discussion to debian-dpkg too ]
Hi,
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Guillem Jover wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-06-09 at 15:26:06 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > However, we discussed that during the multi-arch bof last Debconf, and
> > came to the conclusion that it would be b
2012/6/10 Adam Borowski wrote:
>> Some people asked for a thread summary. So here it is.
> Seriously, can't you even read what's written to you?
Yes, I know it was a biased summary. So as yours. But there's a difference
between mine and yours. Mine is based on some real-world applications,
yours
Roger Leigh dixit:
>However, if you have any lingering scripts without any LSB headers,
>you'll need to fix them up or remove them to allow dynamic boot
>ordering to be enabled. This is obviously not too desirable, since
sudo apt-get --purge install file-rc insserv-
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Serge writes:
> 2012/6/10 Adam Borowski wrote:
>
>>> Some people asked for a thread summary. So here it is.
>> Seriously, can't you even read what's written to you?
>
> Yes, I know it was a biased summary.
I think you might start to piss off a few people now...
Look at what you are quoting above
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
* Package name: amd64-microcode
Version : 0.20120117
Upstream Author : AMD, Inc
* URL : http://www.amd64.org/support/microcode.html
* License : proprietary
Description : Processor microco
2012/6/10 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Sorry, but this is a biased summary, and therefore useless for what it
> intends to be.
Yes, I know. It's biased toward the /tmp and real-world applications.
>> "/tmp on tmpfs is good" quotes
>> No real quotes here. Most of this and other threads were about why
Serge wrote:
> 2012/6/10 Adam Borowski wrote:
> >> Some people asked for a thread summary. So here it is.
> > Seriously, can't you even read what's written to you?
>
> Yes, I know it was a biased summary. So as yours. But there's a difference
> between mine and yours. Mine is based on some real-wo
On 09/06/12 21:27, Roland Mas wrote:
> here, but everything I've felt and read and heard is that the primary
> focus of Gnome is no longer "everyone" but "users doing basic tasks",
> and "users trying to be productive" (ie maximize the bandwidth of the
> human-computer interface) are an afterthough
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:35:47PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
* Less wear of SSD drives.
• Contrary to Serge's claims, SSDs are not an oddity, and it's not
unlikely these will be a majority before wheezy becomes oldstable.
He didn’t say they were oddities. He said you should more worry abo
[Thorsten Glaser]
> Roger Leigh dixit:
>
>>However, if you have any lingering scripts without any LSB headers,
>>you'll need to fix them up or remove them to allow dynamic boot
>>ordering to be enabled. This is obviously not too desirable, since
>
> sudo apt-get --purge install file-rc insserv-
On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 08:38:42PM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Hello List:
>
> On 09/06/12 19:54, Stephen Allen wrote:
> >
> >+100 On that. Anyone that thinks 2 was better doesn't know much -- What
> >most are saying is they liked the layout better (I think). In that case
> >Cinamon is a good ch
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Adam Borowski wrote:
> This is not an insurmountable problem: /tmp might use some form of
> overlay that uses tmpfs for regular use and starts shunting to some
> area other than swap once it sees it is being used for large files.
> Or alternatively, there could possibly be a dy
On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 09:27:05PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote:
> Stephen Allen, 2012-06-09 13:54:17 -0400 :
>
> [...]
>
> > +100 On that. Anyone that thinks 2 was better doesn't know much --
>
> There's no call for that belittling.
You're right, poor choice of words. My apologies. ;-D
> > What
2012/6/10 Uoti Urpala wrote:
>> Yes, I know it was a biased summary. So as yours. But there's a difference
>> between mine and yours. Mine is based on some real-world applications,
>
> You've posted blatantly false claims. If you post claims like "1+1
> equals 2 because the moon is made of cheese"
]] Stephan Seitz
> Will Wheezy support SSDs out of the box with all trimming functions,
> even if your SSD partition is using LUKS and LVM?
Depends on what you mean by out of the box. I suspect you still need to
turn on discard support (since it has security implications). It does
not require
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> As such, I suggest that we handle "binary rebuild" differently:
> - debian/changelog is left unmodified since it's the source changelog
> => it defines the ${source:Version} substvar
> - debian/changelog.binary-rebuild (or any other better name) is created
> when we wa
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:12:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Stephan Seitz
Will Wheezy support SSDs out of the box with all trimming functions,
even if your SSD partition is using LUKS and LVM?
Depends on what you mean by out of the box. I suspect you still need to
turn on discard suppo
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 06:13:24PM +0300, Serge wrote:
> 2012/6/10 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> > Sorry, but this is a biased summary, and therefore useless for what it
> > intends to be.
>
> Yes, I know. It's biased toward the /tmp and real-world applications.
>
> >> "/tmp on tmpfs is good" quote
On 06/10/2012 11:55 PM, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> Well, if I start Virtual Box on my notebook (4 GB RAM), the system
> uses the swap partition.
Frankly, I don't know what the fuck virtualbox is doing
with its memory management, but I was tempted more than
once to file a RC bug with a title like this
On 06/11/2012 12:06 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> swap file on / [...] is
> really the direction that we should be going
NO !
Does this need to be explained? :/
Thomas
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On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:28:59AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 06/10/2012 11:55 PM, Stephan Seitz wrote:
Well, if I start Virtual Box on my notebook (4 GB RAM), the system
uses the swap partition.
Frankly, I don't know what the fuck virtualbox is doing
with its memory management, but I was
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
> > As such, I suggest that we handle "binary rebuild" differently:
> > - debian/changelog is left unmodified since it's the source changelog
> > => it defines the ${source:Version} substvar
> > - debian/changelog.binary-rebu
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:35:47PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 01:51:19AM +0300, Serge wrote:
> > Some people asked for a thread summary. So here it is.
> But, for the rest of us, here's a different summary.
I've long thought that the wiki might be a good tool for trying
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:31:36AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 06/11/2012 12:06 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > swap file on / [...] is
> > really the direction that we should be going
> NO !
>
> Does this need to be explained? :/
Perhaps? Please point me at the msg-id of the explanation if I
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:01:12PM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 08:38:42PM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> > Is Cinnamon detributed within Debian ?
>
> No not last time I checked. It's availabe from LMDE (LinuxMintDebian)
> and since that distro works with Debian testing sou
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:46:57PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:12:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> >]] Stephan Seitz
> >>Will Wheezy support SSDs out of the box with all trimming functions,
> >>even if your SSD partition is using LUKS and LVM?
> >Depends on what you
Serge wrote:
> 2012/6/10 Uoti Urpala wrote:
> > You've posted blatantly false claims. If you post claims like "1+1
> > equals 2 because the moon is made of cheese", then you're a moron, even
> > if 1+1 does equal 2.
>
> (I like this example :)) It could be, it's impossible to know everything
> in
]] Philipp Kern
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:46:57PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:12:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > >]] Stephan Seitz
> > >>Will Wheezy support SSDs out of the box with all trimming functions,
> > >>even if your SSD partition is using LUKS and
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Martín Ferrari"
* Package name: python-unshare
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : "Martín Ferrari"
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/python-unshare/
* License : GPLv2
Programming Lang: Python, C
Description : Python
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:31:21PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> Well, nice to hear, but I thought, discard was needed in all layers,
> so in my example in LUKS, then in LVM and then in the filesystem. Or
> is his only a function you activate via hdparm?
It's available in all layers, but as Tol
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:15:42 +0900
Norbert Preining wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> is this only me or do I have the feeling that we are going down
> the trench with Gnome?
> Repeatedly:
> - first login: nautilus segfaults in libnautilus-fileroller.so
> after log out and log in it sometimes works
>
* Philipp Kern (pk...@debian.org) [120610 14:06]:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 01:52:24PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > Perhaps we could add the binNMU entry for the moment and fix the rest
> > later? Or whatever would make you more happy. Just I'd like to be able
> > to schedule binNMUs again on ma
Thomas Goirand writes:
> Let's put it this way: I can't run Virtualbox AND
> Firefox at the same time, or my laptop becomes unusably
> slow and non responsive.
>
> Am I the only one who experienced that? Is there something
> I didn't understand, or is it Virtualbox that has a problem?
I have the
* Raphael Hertzog (hert...@debian.org) [120610 20:44]:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> > Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> >
> > > As such, I suggest that we handle "binary rebuild" differently:
> > > - debian/changelog is left unmodified since it's the source changelog
> > > => it define
2012/6/10 Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Let's put it this way: I can't run Virtualbox AND
> Firefox at the same time, or my laptop becomes unusably
> slow and non responsive.
Do you use 2.6 kernel and have FF profile and VB images on the same ext4
partition?
Can you reproduce that with 3.2 kernel?
PS:
> >>> Some people asked for a thread summary. So here it is.
> >> Seriously, can't you even read what's written to you?
> >
> > Yes, I know it was a biased summary.
>
> I think you might start to piss off a few people now...
>
> Look at what you are quoting above. You introduced your biased summa
Andreas Barth wrote:
> Do we have other tools than dpkg that parse the changelog to find out
> the package version?
Yes, debian/rules parses the changelog in a low-tech way in some
source packages. Someone with access to the lintian lab might be able
to say how many packages would be hurt by not
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Martín Ferrari"
* Package name: python-passfd
Version : 0.2
Upstream Author : "Martín Ferrari"
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/python-passfd/
* License : GPLv2
Programming Lang: Python, C.
Description : Python
2012/6/10 Uoti Urpala wrote:
>> What false claim are you talking about?
>
> The problem is that you've posted quite a few of those false claims
[...]
> For example, the page you linked for your "SSDs can take 50 years
> of writing before they wear out" claim has a first paragraph saying
> durabili
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